Mayweather Jr. AGREES TO WEAR REYES

I read in a local newspaper article that the pretty boy has agreed to De La Hoya's request to wear Reyes gloves for their scheduled Jr. Middleweight title fight on May 5th, IMO it's not that smart of a move by Mayweather, Oscar is hands down the bigger stronger fighter of the two, and this will just make his edge in power way bigger, also Mayweather is always complaining about his brittle right hand so don't know should be a good one

Mayweather says he's going to do everything DLH's way so DLH has no excuses.

Fighters should be able to wear their gloves of choice. This seems to be a recent thing where fighters try to dictate what brand gloves an opponent can wear. I think its BS, and more a psycological thing than substance.

I'm aware that Reyes is classified as a punchers glove. I believe Gatti stayed with Reyes even with his brittle hands. I doubt it will be a determining factor in the fight.

Im more interested in what size ring is being used for the fight.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Mayweather says he's going to do everything DLH's way so DLH has no excuses.

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IMO he wont have to make any excuses because i honestly think that he'll be way too much for him

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Mayweather says he's going to do everything DLH's way so DLH has no excuses.

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IMO he wont have to make any excuses because i honestly think that he'll be way too much for him

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Why do you think that?

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Originally Posted by right_cross

Fighters should be able to wear their gloves of choice. This seems to be a recent thing where fighters try to dictate what brand gloves an opponent can wear. I think its BS, and more a psycological thing than substance.

I'm aware that Reyes is classified as a punchers glove. I believe Gatti stayed with Reyes even with his brittle hands. I doubt it will be a determining factor in the fight.

Im more interested in what size ring is being used for the fight.

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Gatti hasn't fought using Reyes gloves for a good while, he switched to Everlast gloves for his last couple of fights and also Gatti doesn't bitch and moan about the pain in his hand when it's BROKEN, he still throws it with plenty of bad intentions and still manages to get the KO with it, Mayweather becomes a one handed fighter and then cries that he only didn't get the KO cause he sprained it or something pussy-like, IMO De La Hoya is going to spark the pretty boy, and he's going to make it look ugly

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Mayweather says he's going to do everything DLH's way so DLH has no excuses.

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IMO he wont have to make any excuses because i honestly think that he'll be way too much for him

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Why do you think that?

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Oscar De La Hoya has seen it all, he's dealt with IMO the craftiest fighter to ever lace em up, being Pernell Whitaker, and he dealt with him well, even though IMO he didn't really win the fight it was close, he's naturally bigger, stronger, probably just as technically sound, better movement off the ropes, Mayweather tends to try to duck or lean out the way like he did against Baldomir and Corely, speed Mayweather has an edge, but it's not a huge one either DLH is still plenty fast at this stage of his career, DLH still has the acuracy with the left and he's been developing the straight right quite nicely since going with Mayweather senior, he has the better stronger jab, and Mayweather's lack of power at 154 combined with Oscar's great chin leaves Mayweather with a very slim chance at earning a knockout, it's not out of the question that Mayweather could possibly win, after all he's one of the best p4p in the world, but he hasn't really had a fight this big and this tough in such a long time that IMO his chances aren't all that great

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Mayweather says he's going to do everything DLH's way so DLH has no excuses.

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IMO he wont have to make any excuses because i honestly think that he'll be way too much for him

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Why do you think that?

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Oscar De La Hoya has seen it all, he's dealt with IMO the craftiest fighter to ever lace em up, being Pernell Whitaker, and he dealt with him well, even though IMO he didn't really win the fight it was close, he's naturally bigger, stronger, probably just as technically sound, better movement off the ropes, Mayweather tends to try to duck or lean out the way like he did against Baldomir and Corely, speed Mayweather has an edge, but it's not a huge one either DLH is still plenty fast at this stage of his career, DLH still has the acuracy with the left and he's been developing the straight right quite nicely since going with Mayweather senior, he has the better stronger jab, and Mayweather's lack of power at 154 combined with Oscar's great chin leaves Mayweather with a very slim chance at earning a knockout, it's not out of the question that Mayweather could possibly win, after all he's one of the best p4p in the world, but he hasn't really had a fight this big and this tough in such a long time that IMO his chances aren't all that great

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Personally, and don't flame me for this. I think Judah had all the things to beat Mayweather, just not the mentality.

But I think Floyd is going to fight a different fight.

One major factor I think will be in this fight is how Oscar holds his hands. He is open for straights and open for body shots.

I think Oscar is more open for punches now then he used to be.

Even though he looked wonderful against Mayorga.

I can't take away that whenever Mayorga threw an uppercut from left field it tagged Oscar and tagged him hard, or that the body shots landed so effectively.

It didn't matter in the end, but I think it will be a factor in this fight. Since the things Oscar is open for are the things that Mayweather can do effectively.

I didn't see a jab in the Mayorga fight and when Oscar does jab what is he open for? Mayweather's money punch the left hook or a counter jab because Oscar gives up his height when he does it.

Oscar hasnt thrown a single straight body shot in a few years, all his body shots have been hooks or in shoeshine combinations and I don't think that would work on Mayweather.

I also remember that Oscar needs to plant in order to do damage and his feet have to be set. If they aren't he can get tagged.

Mayweather is going to be moving all night and looking for a shot and Oscar is going to be laying back and trying to time him. Otherwise when Mayweather moves Oscar is going to follow.

To be effective Oscar needs to have his feet set. And against Mayweather he couldn't hope for it.

Mayweather has much more speed then Mayorga.

And don't flame me for it but Judah had more speed then Oscar too especially at 147 when Oscar is at 154 now.

So I think that Mayweather is going to take this fight on the facts that I just mentioned.

What do you think?

i respect your opinion and yea you have valid points, but also like you said the fights at 154, and Mayweather wasn't as fast as he used to be at 147, IMO the move from 140 to 147 slowed him down a bit, still super fast but not as fast as he was in the lower weight classes remember De La Hoya is very good on his feet and can effectively move after Mayweather without giving up his position, also mayweather snr. is one of the best defensive trainers in the game today, if anyone can help him set up a defensive gameplan it's him

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i respect your opinion and yea you have valid points, but also like you said the fights at 154, and Mayweather wasn't as fast as he used to be at 147, IMO the move from 140 to 147 slowed him down a bit, still super fast but not as fast as he was in the lower weight classes remember De La Hoya is very good on his feet and can effectively move after Mayweather without giving up his position, also mayweather snr. is one of the best defensive trainers in the game today, if anyone can help him set up a defensive gameplan it's him

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Mayweather Sr is going to tell Oscar to do what Forrest did to Mosley and time him.

The question is, does Oscar still have the reflexes and the speed to time Mayweather's shots and feints. If he cant then thats it for him.

I don't think Mayweather will come in at 154 I expect him to be 149 at the weigh in.

But I don't think the weight will be a factor.

Remember Roy Jones in his first fight at 168 dethroned James Toney, so it's possible.

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Originally Posted by right_cross

Fighters should be able to wear their gloves of choice. This seems to be a recent thing where fighters try to dictate what brand gloves an opponent can wear. I think its BS, and more a psycological thing than substance.

I'm aware that Reyes is classified as a punchers glove. I believe Gatti stayed with Reyes even with his brittle hands. I doubt it will be a determining factor in the fight.

Im more interested in what size ring is being used for the fight.

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Gatti hasn't fought using Reyes gloves for a good while, he switched to Everlast gloves for his last couple of fights and also Gatti doesn't bitch and moan about the pain in his hand when it's BROKEN, he still throws it with plenty of bad intentions and still manages to get the KO with it, Mayweather becomes a one handed fighter and then cries that he only didn't get the KO cause he sprained it or something pussy-like, IMO De La Hoya is going to spark the pretty boy, and he's going to make it look ugly

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thanks for the heads up on the Gatti gloves. :-[ I still think a shoebox ring will give Oscar his biggest advantage. The ring in the Floyd/Baldo fight looked like ropes strung around a basketball court.

I have to look at this two ways.
If we are to believe that Edward Brittle hands did indeed injure his right hand against Baldomir, then Oscar's plan should work. How? Again if we are to believe PBF did hurt his hand after throwing 3 right hands then Oscar has the advantage and I guess Oscar is hoping that with the harder gloves, PBF will either re-injure it or he will be reluctant to throw it. I don't believe PBF hurt his right hand, He may have felt some discomfort but I think he is saving himself for the May 5th. fight, some how he knew he would face De La Hoya. If Edward did not hurt his right hand then Oscar is going to get taxed with it but Oscar is hoping Edward does injure it and then Oscar will be all over Edward like white on rice and he and his corner will have to watch very closely and not miss out on the opportunity like Baldomir did who didn't start swinging for the fences and selling out until the very last round.
So, as soon as Edward does hurt his hand, Oscar should just jump all over Floyd and knock his punk azz out.

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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You missed my point or you misunderstood my post.

What I said was that Oscar and Oscar's corner need to be vigilant for the injury and then jump all over it.
Speaking of Cotto, Pualie said had he known Cotto's hand was injured, he would have pounced on Cotto more. The missed opportunities of Paulie and Baldomir.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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Simple,Cotto nearly broke Paulie's face with the force of his blows and he would be passive for the odd round,he still nearly koed Paulie in the 12th...PBF threw a handful of shots and they looked more like potshots than his usual stinging shots....I thought he just used it as an excuse really. I didn't see him land many on Baldo's head either...

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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Simple,Cotto nearly broke Paulie's face with the force of his blows and he would be passive for the odd round,he still nearly koed Paulie in the 12th...PBF threw a handful of shots and they looked more like potshots than his usual stinging shots....I thought he just used it as an excuse really. I didn't see him land many on Baldo's head either...

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I too am led to believe it was an excuse and he was saving his hand for a real fight against a great opponent, that being Oscar. I say PBF was just avoiding not injuring it. He never had a cast nor did I hear anything about him going to a Doctor or nothing. That same night he was partying and no one at the party could tell if his hand was injured.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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I guess it is a punk move on Oscars part but I do not blame him. What is he going to do? Let PBF come in with those huge pillows? But wait, didn't they change the pillow rule?

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

i respect your opinion and yea you have valid points, but also like you said the fights at 154, and Mayweather wasn't as fast as he used to be at 147, IMO the move from 140 to 147 slowed him down a bit, still super fast but not as fast as he was in the lower weight classes remember De La Hoya is very good on his feet and can effectively move after Mayweather without giving up his position, also mayweather snr. is one of the best defensive trainers in the game today, if anyone can help him set up a defensive gameplan it's him

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Mayweather Sr is going to tell Oscar to do what Forrest did to Mosley and time him.

The question is, does Oscar still have the reflexes and the speed to time Mayweather's shots and feints. If he cant then thats it for him.

I don't think Mayweather will come in at 154 I expect him to be 149 at the weigh in.

But I don't think the weight will be a factor.

Remember Roy Jones in his first fight at 168 dethroned James Toney, so it's possible.

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big difference in the fact Jones jr didn't need to do much, if anything to get to 168. Mayweather is a natural at 140, making 147 was 'work' for him... 154 is another story

I don't think that it really matters...Floyd is going to try and out bicycle Oscar and pot shot him to a victory. But I could be wrong....if Floyd comes in with the plan of winning and being active doing it and not just running the whole time then win, lose, or draw I will respect him more as a fighter

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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I guess it is a punk move on Oscars part but I do not blame him. What is he going to do? Let PBF come in with those huge pillows? But wait, didn't they change the pillow rule?

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Despite his gloves being heavier in the Baldomir fight (b/c they changed the rule on glove size at 147 in between that and the Judah fight), his gloves actually looked smaller than in the Judah fight. This whole "pillows" thing is all based on that one fight w/ Judah, where he wore white gloves, which look bigger than they are (like if you wear gleaming white shoes they'll look at least a full size bigger than the same-sized black shoe). It was funny to see Sal get all crazy about this, but honestly, it's a lame criticism. And agreed Oscar's being a pussy--he should let Floyd come in with whatever gloves he wants, so long as those gloves are officially sanctioned (you know, like every other fighter besides ODH and Erik Morales allows his opponent to do).

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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I guess it is a punk move on Oscars part but I do not blame him. What is he going to do? Let PBF come in with those huge pillows? But wait, didn't they change the pillow rule?

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Despite his gloves being heavier in the Baldomir fight (b/c they changed the rule on glove size at 147 in between that and the Judah fight), his gloves actually looked smaller than in the Judah fight. This whole "pillows" thing is all based on that one fight w/ Judah, where he wore white gloves, which look bigger than they are (like if you wear gleaming white shoes they'll look at least a full size bigger than the same-sized black shoe). It was funny to see Sal get all crazy about this, but honestly, it's a lame criticism. And agreed Oscar's being a pussy--he should let Floyd come in with whatever gloves he wants, so long as those gloves are officially sanctioned (you know, like every other fighter besides ODH and Erik Morales allows his opponent to do).

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http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...eather5wa6.jpg
So if these gloves were black, they would look smaller?
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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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I guess it is a punk move on Oscars part but I do not blame him. What is he going to do? Let PBF come in with those huge pillows? But wait, didn't they change the pillow rule?

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Despite his gloves being heavier in the Baldomir fight (b/c they changed the rule on glove size at 147 in between that and the Judah fight), his gloves actually looked smaller than in the Judah fight. This whole "pillows" thing is all based on that one fight w/ Judah, where he wore white gloves, which look bigger than they are (like if you wear gleaming white shoes they'll look at least a full size bigger than the same-sized black shoe). It was funny to see Sal get all crazy about this, but honestly, it's a lame criticism. And agreed Oscar's being a pussy--he should let Floyd come in with whatever gloves he wants, so long as those gloves are officially sanctioned (you know, like every other fighter besides ODH and Erik Morales allows his opponent to do).

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http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...eather5wa6.jpg
So if these gloves were black, they would look smaller?
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Those look like Sock em Boopers

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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I guess it is a punk move on Oscars part but I do not blame him. What is he going to do? Let PBF come in with those huge pillows? But wait, didn't they change the pillow rule?

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Despite his gloves being heavier in the Baldomir fight (b/c they changed the rule on glove size at 147 in between that and the Judah fight), his gloves actually looked smaller than in the Judah fight. This whole "pillows" thing is all based on that one fight w/ Judah, where he wore white gloves, which look bigger than they are (like if you wear gleaming white shoes they'll look at least a full size bigger than the same-sized black shoe). It was funny to see Sal get all crazy about this, but honestly, it's a lame criticism. And agreed Oscar's being a pussy--he should let Floyd come in with whatever gloves he wants, so long as those gloves are officially sanctioned (you know, like every other fighter besides ODH and Erik Morales allows his opponent to do).

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http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3...eather5wa6.jpg
So if these gloves were black, they would look smaller?
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Yes--I think you've grasped it.

Actually, most if not all of the sanctioning bodies mandate that both combatants wear the same glove. So if it's Reyes for OLDH, then PBF's gotta wear 'em too.

Wow, I have access to the secret lab where they personally test Mayweather's new gloves

check them out! The defensive skills it gives them even on a trampoline!

[youtube=425,350]I0h4n5rkYk8[/youtube]

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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Majesty, looks like you study Floyd very well. cc'd you for the valid points.
But I just messaged to say that Cotto beat the hell from Paul. Don't lessen
Cotto's performance.

Paul just had the guts to keep fighting back, even though he was outgunned.
Fight was difficult to watch for a Paul fan, me. Paul broke his jaw, didn't he? heh
That isn't a passive performance. Poor Paul won't fight in 2006 because of the beating.

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I don't think that it really matters...Floyd is going to try and out bicycle Oscar and pot shot him to a victory. But I could be wrong....if Floyd comes in with the plan of winning and being active doing it and not just running the whole time then win, lose, or draw I will respect him more as a fighter

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Hopefully this will be a good fight. I had no respect for ODH until the Mosley fight. To me even though he lost, that is where he became a great fighter. Hopefully this will be the career defining fight for PBF. I personally think he is in trouble, and that he doesn't have the power to hurt ODH. ODH definitely does have enough to hurt Floyd, so I see it like when ODH fought Hopkins... It was just a matter of time. ODH is gonna put a hurtin on PBF if it's a fight. However, this could be what finally makes PBF a superstar. An exciting fight win or lose and it could turn into a trilogy.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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To be honest both De La Hoya and Floyd always try to gain an advantage like this in important fights.

I don't know if you remember but Floyd moved up to light weight then when the fight with Coralles came through he moved back down to 130 because he didnt want to allow Coralles the extra weight.

Not that there was anything wrong with that but he certainly wanted Coralles to be as weight drained as possible.
Once he had beaten him, Floyd moved back up again

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I don't think that it really matters...Floyd is going to try and out bicycle Oscar and pot shot him to a victory. But I could be wrong....if Floyd comes in with the plan of winning and being active doing it and not just running the whole time then win, lose, or draw I will respect him more as a fighter

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Hopefully this will be a good fight. I had no respect for ODH until the Mosley fight. To me even though he lost, that is where he became a great fighter. Hopefully this will be the career defining fight for PBF. I personally think he is in trouble, and that he doesn't have the power to hurt ODH. ODH definitely does have enough to hurt Floyd, so I see it like when ODH fought Hopkins... It was just a matter of time. ODH is gonna put a hurtin on PBF if it's a fight. However, this could be what finally makes PBF a superstar. An exciting fight win or lose and it could turn into a trilogy.

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But even before then he had fought GREAT fighters....Chavez (albeit an old one) and Whittaker.

Oscar tested himself vs the best out there.....where is Floyd's Pernell Whittaker???

Delahoya is a control freak. Now it seems like Hopkins is trying to teach him how to play mind games b4 the fight.

Oscar is doing what he needs to do to win and to be honest,it's not the size of the gloves I'm interested in,it's the size of the ring. PBF and Oscar have Reyes but if PBF has the same size ring as the Baldo fight,he'll win.....Is it possible to get a bigger ring than that?!

I absolutely agree with the fact that the winner of this fight will be based on the size of the ring. If Oscar can get an 18 ft ring (20 max) then he will have an easier time of cutting the ring off. Oscar has to make floyd fight and not let him get off a quick combo and move out of the way. It has been a while since somebody has made Floyd fight, so if Oscar can put Floyd in a situation to where he has to fight then that will increase the odds of Oscar winning. Cant tell right now on who will win, everybody will have a better idea when we find out what size of ring it will be.

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I don't think that it really matters...Floyd is going to try and out bicycle Oscar and pot shot him to a victory. But I could be wrong....if Floyd comes in with the plan of winning and being active doing it and not just running the whole time then win, lose, or draw I will respect him more as a fighter

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Hopefully this will be a good fight. I had no respect for ODH until the Mosley fight. To me even though he lost, that is where he became a great fighter. Hopefully this will be the career defining fight for PBF. I personally think he is in trouble, and that he doesn't have the power to hurt ODH. ODH definitely does have enough to hurt Floyd, so I see it like when ODH fought Hopkins... It was just a matter of time. ODH is gonna put a hurtin on PBF if it's a fight. However, this could be what finally makes PBF a superstar. An exciting fight win or lose and it could turn into a trilogy.

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But even before then he had fought GREAT fighters....Chavez (albeit an old one) and Whittaker.

Oscar tested himself vs the best out there.....where is Floyd's Pernell Whittaker???

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I am not a fan of PBF. I do recognize his skill, and think he's quite possibly the best out there right now, but I think he made a mistake moving up this high and he's gonna lose. Not a big Oscar fan either, but I hated him before Mosley, now I respect him and think he's a good fighter. Many people will claim that Zab was the big fight for PBF, but obviously that is a huge stretch. Zab is and was highly overrated in my opinion. Always being judged on "potential". Reminds me of Benoint Benjamin, one of many "potentials" that wasted their physical talent with a poor work ethic.

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Fighters should be able to wear their gloves of choice. This seems to be a recent thing where fighters try to dictate what brand gloves an opponent can wear. I think its BS, and more a psycological thing than substance.

I'm aware that Reyes is classified as a punchers glove. I believe Gatti stayed with Reyes even with his brittle hands. I doubt it will be a determining factor in the fight.

Im more interested in what size ring is being used for the fight.

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Gatti wore Everlast.

I agree about ring size being more important than the gloves. If it's a small ring...Floyd will be in trouble.

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I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd.

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wudnt shock me if oscar has some sort of a deal with them, and by doing this benefits somehow;)

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I remember not too long ago when I was reading the topics here people were saying that Cotto suffered a "boxers injury" to his hand in the Malignaggi fight and that it was the only reason he didnt KO him and that he had to be passive in order to do that.

So why is Mayweather a punk for having to do the same?

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IMO, the only punk here is ODH for basically stipulating a handycap into the contract. Clearly he only wants Floyd to wear "punchers' gloves" because he's hoping Floyd will injure his hands and then he won't have to deal with a 100% Floyd. It would be one thing if ODH just wanted to be allowed to wear Reyes himself, but it's bullshit to include in the contract provisions concerning what gloves your opponent can wear--and it indicates that the person forcing in this provision isn't confident he can win on skill alone.

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that's complete bullshit because DLH isn't forcing Mayweather to wear them, PBF could wear his everlasts or his usual Winnings gloves while DLH will definately use Reyes, he just made the REQUEST NOT THE DEMAND, Mayweather on his own free will agreed, don't see how that makes DLH a punk

I'm 100% sure Carlos "THE CHAMPION" Baldomir didn't want a 5,000 square foot ring when fighting Floyd "THE CHALLENGER" Mayweather Jr either


Boxing is a rough sport if Floyd's as great as he talks about being all the fucking time he'll win anyways....quit the bitching