Well done Audley.......but.

The jury is still out on Audley Harrison. He put on a good show tonight and went some way to repairing the damage that has been done over the past two years. He showed that when he has things his own way against a mediocre fighter whos heart isnt in it any more he can look good. The uppercuts that did for Williams were powerfull and well delivered, he left Williams a bloody mess with nowhere to go. This result will count for nothing if he doesnt go on and dish out the same kind of beating to fighters with a bit more ambition.

Ive been pretty scathing of Audley in the past and Im not alone. The thing is it was fully deserved and I thought it was a bit OTT of Audley sitting at ringside basically saying "see, I told you so". Yes he has taken a step foward and looked good doing so, but there is a long way to go. I've no doubt in Audley's technical boxing ability, only the names James Toney and Wladimir Klitschko spring to mind as being technically better, but as we know it isnt just about how skillfull you are. When Audley grinds out a win when his backs against the wall or pulls one out of the fire, then I'll begin to be convinced.

Well done Audley. Dont sit on this win, you've had a good result, make it the first of many ;)

Here here 8)
Skelton early next year has gotta be coming ;)

Good post

i hate harrison but i was quite shocked he threw some good quality punches and guess what ?? decided to throw more punches very good performance from harrison now lets hope he can fight like that in his next fight against skelton i was sure skelton would win but after seeing what harrision can do when he actually decides to fight im not so sure now

And I thought you were a mod coz of you're pretty face Memphis ;) have a well earned CC, basically summed up what most British boxing fans will be thinking at the moment. Jim Rosenthal went a little overboard in his praise, but Audley did alright, but there is still a fair way to go for young Audley (note the lack of Fr at the start of his name).

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Correct.

I've never doubted his abilities even going back to his Commonwealth days.
His confidence must be sky high after this.
It's his chin that still bothers me ;D

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I've never doubted his abilities even going back to his Commonwealth days.
His confidence must be sky high after this.
It's his chin that still bothers me ;D

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I know, it's bloody ugly isn't it.

He still couldn't beat Guinn....that sums his career up! Never going to be good never going to be great never going to be champion....but unleash him on some crappy fighters and he looks like Lennox Lewis

ok he won this fight.......BUT!! lets not forget danny had a week to get ready for the fight, theres training to lose weight and get fit but you need specific training for a fight and it seems 1 week wasn't enough for danny........it also was unlucky danny cut so many times whitin the first 2 rounds he wouldn't have been allowed out for the 4th even if he didnt get stopped

audley will now fight skelton

for danny it will take a good 8-9 months for those cuts to heal, he'll need a easy fight or 2 once he fights again so you can right him off untill early 2008...............i think he'll retire now, shame he goes out this way

This I gotta see on video, Audley via TKO... :o

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He still couldn't beat Guinn....that sums his career up! Never going to be good never going to be great never going to be champion....but unleash him on some crappy fighters and he looks like Lennox Lewis

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You of all people should understand that an embarrasing loss doesnt HAVE to be the end.

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I've never doubted his abilities even going back to his Commonwealth days.
His confidence must be sky high after this.
It's his chin that still bothers me ;D

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Everyone's chin seems to bother you :lickish:

No 'poofter mode' tonight then?!

BTW, has Audley gone Muslim?

Tc

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He still couldn't beat Guinn....that sums his career up! Never going to be good never going to be great never going to be champion....but unleash him on some crappy fighters and he looks like Lennox Lewis

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You of all people should understand that an embarrasing loss doesnt HAVE to be the end.

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very true...............

klitchko has rebounded pretty well from his few losses ;)

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No 'poofter mode' tonight then?!

BTW, has Audley gone Muslim?

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I don't know he did talk about a higher power helping him but I assummed he meant Allan Leighton the post office chairman ???

wow.. I guess Williams had to get Audley pissed off to get that performance

lets not forget that williams has given british boxing some good nights, he's a nice fella and lets hope he can retiurn

yes audley looked good last night but danny was cut badly and had come in at a weeks notice - still audley got the early TKO

Lets see where he goes from here though - wouldn't surprise me if he decided to have a year out 'career break ' again ;)

Skelton next then time he took on a top ten guy and stopped fucking around


i still think Audley is pants - but in a heavyweight era such as this one I have to say I think that about just about all the main contenders :-\

Audley is lucky that he is fighting in this era ::**

Fraudley is annoying because he has all the physical tools to be a good fighter.

Unfortunately, he has little fighting heart, and is so so so annoyingly arrogant.

The division is probably the weakest I have ever seen it, though, so he still has a good chance of getting an alphabet title.

"In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is King"

He just had a good win get off his back.

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He still couldn't beat Guinn....that sums his career up! Never going to be good never going to be great never going to be champion....but unleash him on some crappy fighters and he looks like Lennox Lewis

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You of all people should understand that an embarrasing loss doesnt HAVE to be the end.

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Audley did good, but Danny Willliams has been absolutely awful since the Klitschko beating, his heart hasn't been in it. His career has been prolonged by Audley's embarassing performance last year and by Skelton (a VERY limited boxer who still managed to OUTBOX Williams!!)

Audley has a lot to work on if he is going to challenge even the mediocre champions we have now. He showed some class with his left uppercut, but his right jab was bloody awful. A decent fighter will be able to get inside on Audley easy due to his sloppy jab. note to Audley: fondling a guys face with your leading hand is not a jab!! If he works on that he miight stand a chance.

All the best to Danny though, he has shown a lot of guts throughout hid career.

If Danny was rubbish then everyone would have picked Audley. did they?

I mean if he fought in a way where he didn't look terrified, that might be a turning point for him. I don't even really think it matters so much about the opponent, cause Williams is no worse than Guinn. And I don't know how many British people saw the Guinn fight but it was the worst thing I've ever seen, never seen a more pathetic performance by a boxer in my life.

The mental thing is obviously the big thing with him, I would have never thought he would have KO'd Williams or anybody in 3 rounds cause I'm not even sure he threw in a punch in the first three rounds of the Guinn fight. He was doing an excellent job of feinting. But maybe he's turned it around a bit.

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I mean if he fought in a way where he didn't look terrified, that might be a turning point for him. I don't even really think it matters so much about the opponent, cause Williams is no worse than Guinn. And I don't know how many British people saw the Guinn fight but it was the worst thing I've ever seen, never seen a more pathetic performance by a boxer in my life.

The mental thing is obviously the big thing with him, I would have never thought he would have KO'd Williams or anybody in 3 rounds cause I'm not even sure he threw in a punch in the first three rounds of the Guinn fight. He was doing an excellent job of feinting. But maybe he's turned it around a bit.

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I mean if he fought in a way where he didn't look terrified, that might be a turning point for him. I don't even really think it matters so much about the opponent, cause Williams is no worse than Guinn. And I don't know how many British people saw the Guinn fight but it was the worst thing I've ever seen, never seen a more pathetic performance by a boxer in my life.

The mental thing is obviously the big thing with him, I would have never thought he would have KO'd Williams or anybody in 3 rounds cause I'm not even sure he threw in a punch in the first three rounds of the Guinn fight. He was doing an excellent job of feinting. But maybe he's turned it around a bit.

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CC. The Guinn fight was just....terrible. Never. Ever. Have I seen something so bad. Chris Byrd and Davryll Williamson were even booing. I've seen anorexic girls with more hunger then Audley. Trash. It's unfortunate but "bad loss" does not come even remotely close to covering it. I'll watch Rolando Reyes - Jose Luis Castillo II before I watch Audley again. I heard horror story type accounts of the first Williams fight but no amount of people moaning on a message board could have prepared me for that fight. I was fairly optimistic about the fight going in, not the case. Britain must not have got the Guinn fight. I'll watch ANY boxing, but that fight seriously ruined my night (I skipped a night with friends for it)

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I mean if he fought in a way where he didn't look terrified, that might be a turning point for him. I don't even really think it matters so much about the opponent, cause Williams is no worse than Guinn. And I don't know how many British people saw the Guinn fight but it was the worst thing I've ever seen, never seen a more pathetic performance by a boxer in my life.

The mental thing is obviously the big thing with him, I would have never thought he would have KO'd Williams or anybody in 3 rounds cause I'm not even sure he threw in a punch in the first three rounds of the Guinn fight. He was doing an excellent job of feinting. But maybe he's turned it around a bit.

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CC. The Guinn fight was just....terrible. Never. Ever. Have I seen something so bad. Chris Byrd and Davryll Williamson were even booing. I've seen anorexic girls with more hunger then Audley. Trash. It's unfortunate but "bad loss" does not come even remotely close to covering it. I'll watch Rolando Reyes - Jose Luis Castillo II before I watch Audley again. I heard horror story type accounts of the first Williams fight but no amount of people moaning on a message board could have prepared me for that fight. I was fairly optimistic about the fight going in, not the case. Britain must not have got the Guinn fight. I'll watch ANY boxing, but that fight seriously ruined my night (I skipped a night with friends for it)

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CC. Was wondering what had happened to you, seem like you haven't been around in a while.

Moved and been busy. Haven't been on here with any sort of regularity since September but I'm back now.

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I picked Audley but I don't think that anyone could have seriously believed that such an emphatic fashion of the finish could have happened. I thought Audley, who had never demonstrated a hard punch against an opponent with any sort of calibre before, would go in there, look to run and avoid any sort of toe-to-toe with Danny, and try and pick him off using that height and reach, but he pummelled him.

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I picked Audley but I don't think that anyone could have seriously believed that such an emphatic fashion of the finish could have happened. I thought Audley, who had never demonstrated a hard punch against an opponent with any sort of calibre before, would go in there, look to run and avoid any sort of toe-to-toe with Danny, and try and pick him off using that height and reach, but he pummelled him.

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Yeah exactly. I think he deserves credit. Believe me I sat through the whole Guinn fight and I was actually thinking "Where are you John Ruiz? Why have you left boxings life and gave us this!!!"

But the 12th round of that fight was great though, maybe that 12th round was the 1st round of Audley's career rebeginning, because since then he hasn't looked tentative at all. And Danny brought it to him in the 3rd round and Audley didn't run away he stood his ground and landed that uppercut and ended that fight and I was impressed because I think he could have done that to Guinn, but like I said, that 12th round of the Guinn fight may have been the confidence sparker in Audley even though he lost the fight.

Everyone knows that Danny is a question mark in any fight....he could be the guy who withstood Tyson's onslaught or Vitali for 8 rounds.....or he could be the fat bastard that gets it handed to him by Sinan Samil Sam.

With Audley all you have to do is punch back...hit him one good time and he'll give up.


As for Mr. Memphis who thinks it's funny to go on about losses of other fighters.....well at least Wlad lost to people with talent, you can't say the same for Audley who before he became pro, had a difficult time beating teenagers to win a gold medal!!!

Audley is 35 and just had a career defining win.....and has not come CLOSE to challenging for a world title, he's too worried about the British Title which is the biggest crock of shit I have ever heard of. Is that something that only British fighters can win so they feel good about themselves because they can't win a REAL title???

I know it has tradition but it's a bit pointless to go after that when you are 35 and wanting to make a name for yourself in the sport of boxing...I can only name a handful of British Champions....I can name plenty of WORLD Champions.

Didn't Audley have a broken hand in the Olympics ???

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Everyone knows that Danny is a question mark in any fight....he could be the guy who withstood Tyson's onslaught or Vitali for 8 rounds.....or he could be the fat B****** that gets it handed to him by Sinan Samil Sam.

With Audley all you have to do is punch back...hit him one good time and he'll give up.


As for Mr. Memphis who thinks it's funny to go on about losses of other fighters.....well at least Wlad lost to people with talent, you can't say the same for Audley who before he became pro, had a difficult time beating teenagers to win a gold medal!!!

Audley is 35 and just had a career defining win.....and has not come CLOSE to challenging for a world title, he's too worried about the British Title which is the biggest crock of S*** I have ever heard of. Is that something that only British fighters can win so they feel good about themselves because they can't win a REAL title???

I know it has tradition but it's a bit pointless to go after that when you are 35 and wanting to make a name for yourself in the sport of boxing...I can only name a handful of British Champions....I can name plenty of WORLD Champions.

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So what the bugger are all these pointless NABO; Fecarbox and all the other bloody titles that are fought for by Americans, they are just stepping stones like the British title is. For some it will be the pinnacle, for other an aim, for other a step towards greatness. Has Audley mentioned the British title since the fight, cause that seems to be what you're suggesting? I don't see him going for it myself, maybe go European, or Skelton for the commonwealth bauble. Anyhow, as an American, I'm not surprised you know more world titlists than British titlists. If as you seem to imply Audley chases British title, then I agree it is completely idiotic of him.

Hey we don't celebrate those champions....to be the Champion of the US you must be the Champion of the World!


I don't dislike it because I am an American but because it's a bad career move for Audley...if he was 25 then hell yeah go for it bud but he's 35!!!

US titles and State titles used to be a big deal. In the 40's. Now I don't think the Commonwealth belt in itself is any wrong, but it seems that Brit fighters deem that as a huge accomplishment. I mean they are primetime fights there aren't they? Doesn't make to much sense to me but I didn't grow up in England.

North American titles are used more as stepping stones here stateside. Yet look at Skelton. Just interested in defending his commonwealth rather then chase a world title.

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As for Mr. Memphis who thinks it's funny to go on about losses of other fighters.....well at least Wlad lost to people with talent, you can't say the same for Audley who before he became pro, had a difficult time beating teenagers to win a gold medal!!!

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Didnt Wlad lose to Ross Purity? ;D

Amat the British title means a great deal, very prestigious. The Commonwealth title is another stepping stone for a fighter and then the European title which is worth winning as it gets you a good ranking with the WBC. Skelton didnt pass up on Maskaev because he wanted to defend his Commonwealth title, rightly or wrongly he turned it down because of money.

Wlad was a young fighter and gassed himself out going for the KO....he has since come a long way but when you start out as a professional with a great amateur back ground and you are YOUNG as a professional then you can make mistakes and make up for them later.....Audley cannot afford such mistakes.

Memphis if you'll be happy with Audley as British Champ then fine, I'm sure it'll make all the Brits proud.....but would that mean more than a top title like the WBC, WBA, WBO, IBF??? I don't think so....but if you'd rather him have that then you have your answer as to why there are never British World Champions (Lennox Lewis doesn't really count he was Canadian in the Olympics....did he have a time machine and go back and change that before he became a pro?)

....also Wladimir is a two time WORLD heavyweight champion and Audley can't even win the "Commonwealth" Title

Sure Audley held the WBF title....I guess that's a little above the WWF title

Dude what the fuck are you rabbiting on about?