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Like I said prior, Peter has been improving with every fight and two fights against Toney will give him invaluable experience. He even used one of Toneys moves against him when he slipped out of the corner on him. I truly believe he's gonna be the one to unify. We probably won't be seeing Lyle for awhile after that performance.
I wonder if Wlad is still gonna wanna unify the WBC title after Peter wins it.
JT came from mid weight and the only reason he is a heavy is because he cant lrave the cakes alone. Vlad would beat Sam again through a constant hard jab, distance and the big right imo..
I give Peter his credit. He looked improved. But he ain't beating Wlad. Peter is still easy to hit. Toney was getting his ass kicked, but he was still landing shots. And he don't have the power Wlad has. It'll be a diffrent story when Wlad hits him.
i agree but wlad tends to be scared and fight a lilttle to coutious now i give ups to wlad in this fight but in the first fight peter took wlads best shot and shook it off ... thing about wlad ill always give him better chanceof winning against any1 in the horizon right now but theres is always a chance for the miracle punchQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Peter never took Wladimirs best shot, not by any means.He was rocked by a Left jab which is not his power hand.Wladimir has a huge straight right which could do a lot more damage.Quote:
Originally Posted by the phenom
I agree Peter never took Wlad's best shot. But he did take some good ones. And I think it was a left hook that wobbled Peter. Not a jabQuote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
Yeah he's the real deal :o , he's also crazy.
He's no one punch beast anymore. His combinations are scary and jab pretty quick for his size.
I have to disagree with some of you in the fact that Peter did take Vlad best and what he did was get a very pissed of face. The punch tha wable Peter was a shor left hook while he was coming forward. I do not think he will win against Vlad but the guy I saw today was incredible (what a stamina) I was impresed(very). And like I said before when Vlad andPeter fought "This 2 are the best heavyweights right now"
He has to train like this for every fight if he does this against Maskaev ( I wish this fight can be maid) I have it by a 2nd or 3rd round KO (out cold).
Peter was walking through Wlads punches that whole fighta and that was a much less polished Peter. Wlad had to hold that version of Peter so imagine what he would try to do now. Hold some more cause Peter is gonna force that fight again pretty soon and I'm sure they'll get an adequate ref this time to take points for excessive holding and pushing.
The reason Wlads camp say they don't want to deal with Don King is because they know he has clout and would be on top of the ref and judge situation.
Yep your right, But the new Peter try to out box Klitschko. Klitschko would rip him an new ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
I think Sam knows he can't outbox Wlad. I do know one thing, Wlad is about the same fighter he was then and Peter is much improved. We all saw how he performs in rematches now too.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
It would be a good fight even maybe PPV
Good fight is an understatement for the true fan but for it to be PPV, Sam would need to beat Maskaev and possibly Briggs too. That is a megafight between the two best out there right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
I don't know why Briggs wants to fight Peter anyway either cause he can't even breathe. He'll get KTFO.
LOL ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
I'm proud of Sam Peter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Really.
Now here's something to think about...he's becoming a different fighter than the one that lost to Wlad & he's shown better skills on his own...so maybe he don't need a new trainer. He threw a jab, combo's, & a nice upper tonight.
He took the power that Wlad had...& he dropped Wlad before...so give Peter some love...just this once...for he just defeated the greatest mouthpiece of 200lbs...& I am happier than a pig in shit.
One more thing of note, since 1994 he is the first to drop Toney & he has handed him back to back losses.
So Peter get's Maskaev next...great.
What I respect the most was that Peter (of himself) said that he wasn't the best...but he was getting better.
Sorry people...how can you not like this kid.
Still only 26 as well, I hope King is paying him right.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
That great mouthpiece is also one of the great fighters of the last 20 years. Also one of it's bravest. Not to many fighters would get in the ring with a power puncher like Peter 2 fights in a roll. Especially considering there not natural heavyweights. Toney deserves respect. Rather he's liked or dislikedQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Yeah it was a left hook ( anyone who saw the fight last night will never forget it because they said it about 25 times through out the bout).....Peter did not take Wlads best but took some damn good ones....and was only wobbled..The guy has a hell of a jaw...If he gets some defense to go with his improving offense everyone in the division better watch out including Wlad....Who right now IMO is the only guy out there who can beat Peter
Double and Triple Jabs!! For cryin-out-loud!! I couldn't believe it. I got a kick out of the little Ali-shuffle he did at the end. The most impressive thing about Peter last night was his change from a one-and-done puncher to a real boxer with real combo's. His improvement from the last fight was just amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
Toney's comments after the fight suggest the possibilty of some brain damage. Talk about disrespect. Peter, on the other hand, was a breath of fresh aiR in this era of trash talk.
well.....Im actaully shocked that Toney lost this to be honest. I havent yet seen the fight but i was sure that he was the superior boxer to anyone in the HW division, and how wrong i was. Fair Play to Sam Peter though it has to be said, it isnt easy to put back to back wins against a GREAT boxer like JT, i just dont know what happened, maybe it was too late for Toney or a huge improvement in Peters work. Now this is gona shake up the HW division quite a bit, thats great news.
Why wouldn't we be seeing me for awhile? Peter is still one dimensional and Wlad already whipped his ass I doubt he'll have an issue with doing it AGAIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
It was some of both, Cockney. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
BTW,Toney's comments after the fight suggest the possibilty of some brain damage. Talk about disrespect. Peter, on the other hand, was a breath of fresh air in this era of trash talk.
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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull
I'm a fan of Sam Peter but he was less than humble. On one hand I was glad to see Toney get some of his own medicine when Peter mocked him being hurt. On the other hand I was sad to see Toney being humiliated. It's an odd thing.
Toney must have watched Raging Bull on Friday night... "You never knocked me out, Peter. You never knocked me out." 30 years from now he'll be muttering that while he rocks in his rocking chair...
GO PETER!
Naw Wack, it's not that they don't like him, it's that they're getting worried about him and want to discredit him.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
peter did look alot better since that last time i saw him. that was a good win for him. i still would pick byrd to beat him though.
u know what i would love to see peter fight valuev just cuz i want to see that big ass mofo geettin knocke out