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This is a pretty stupid idea I had, so I figured I should share it with you guys.
Heavyweight tournement to unify all the big 4 titles.
Round 1 (title holders, vs. #1 mandatory)
Oleg Maskaev--------\
vs. Winner---\
Sam Peter------------/ \
vs. Winner\
Ruslan Chagaev------\ / \
vs. Winner---/ \
Sultan Ibragimov-----/ \
vs. Unified Champ
Wladimir Klitschko---\ /
vs. Winner---\ /
Lamon Brewster------/ \ /
vs. Winner--/
Shannon Briggs-------\ /
vs. Winner---/
Alexander Dimitrenko/
Yeah! man thats a great idea, good stuff. :)
One little thing though, DON KING. :(
On a serious note this is how I would see it go.
Oleg Maskaev--------\
vs. Sam P---\ Sam beats Oleg soundly and drops him twice in the fight
Sam Peter------------/ \
vs. Chagaev\ Chagaevs left hand causes a lot of problems for Peter
Ruslan Chagaev------\ / \
vs. Chagaev---/ \
Sultan Ibragimov-----/ \
vs. Wladimir Klitschko - Wlad stops Chagaev mid-way rd5
Wladimir Klitschko---\ /
vs. Wladdy---\ /
Lamon Brewster------/ \ /
vs. Wladdy--/ Wladdys power proves to much and beats him in 5
Shannon Briggs-------\ /
vs. Dimitrenko---/ Dimitrenkos activitys 2 much 4 Briggs ref. stops the fight
Alexander Dimitrenko/
No matter how you stack the first round match ups it ends up being Peter Vs. Klitschko.
I know Peter has improved since the Klitschko fight. I just have a feeling that those improvements will work against him when he fights Wlad. The flailing around actually helped land those awkward shots.
I think a jabbing, careful punching Peter goes the way of Calvin Brock and Chris Byrd before him. :'(
I think this would be a great idea for the fans, the only problems would be
1) Money
2) Timing
3) Money
4) Promoters, which leads to the last problem
5) Money
I agree for the most part, I give Oleg more of a shot against Peter than most, although my money would still be on PeterQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Don King made the 01 Middleweight tournament happen. But he promoted all those fighters I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Vitali Klitschko? :'(
thats pretty cool, but where's Vitali K? to be honest I can see Wlad cleaning up that list pretty easy. Only Sam Peter poses anything like a credible threat. The sooner Vlad unifies the better.
Sam Peters beats Oleg Maskeav 9 times out of 10. Shannon Briggs is going to lose his title VERY soon. I don't hold a great of faith in Lamon Brewster either, he's like Briggs in that he has a big punch but he only throws one punch at a time. I think Klitschko beats him if they make the fight.
Chagaev is good fighter, I'm waiting with anticipation to see if he can build on the valuev victory, which is one of the best results of the year in any division. I know Valuev wasn't exactly Ray robinson but to beat someone with a 1 foot 90lbs weight advantage is a real achievement. I always said Valuev would be very hard to beat.
I think we'll eventually have to see some sort of unification sorted out, boxing's suffering for the lack of a good heavyweight champion. The lineage has just dried up post-lewis, someone ought to grab this piss weak division by the neck and dominate. It ought've been the Klitschko brothers, coz they're a class apart from the rest at the moment, but they've fucked it up by "retiring" and getting beat. Wlad still has time to redeem himself, and looks to be approaching his prime, but Vitali needs to get serious about wether he wants to come back. For all we know the layoff has knackered him, physically and mentally.
King will do anything, to not let Vlad unify, IMO. Good bracket though! :coolclick:
I think we all wish this scenario.
Screw the Emetrius, he's been out long enough to have to earn his way back up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
Was reading that Moorer wants a third fight with Holyfield. I'm sure the winner will get a title shot, or an eliminator. Holy KOs him again. I can't believe Holy might be able to get a title shot. Ha ha ha ha ha!
Briggs got a shot, why not Holy. Wow, the heavyweight division!
Great idea and the winner of the tourny gets Vitali...even if Wlad wins
Surely Vitali against Wladimir Klitschko would be a promoter's dream and a parents' nightmare. I reckon that, just like when my mates' used to fight their brothers', that the older brother wins simply cause Vitali used to beat Wladimir up when they were about 12 and 6 years old, and Wladdy will never be able to overcome that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw
im not a fan of pro tournaments in boxing but in this day and age it'll take something like that to make a clear picture heres what i have in mind:Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
There's only 4 major belts but theres 4 other semi legit belts as well so here what you do. You set up a 16 man bracket. Each belt orgs champ vs their #1 contender (ibf would face ibf #1 contender and so on). In the event that a champ holds two belts theres a kinda play in match like the ncaa tournament in which case it would be Ibf contender vs Ibo contender and winner of that match goes up against said ibf and ibo champion. This way you get the mandatories and total unification match in one sweeping motion. You crown the winner the ring champ and horray we have a respectable heavyweight picture.
Thats the best idea out there now not alot of super star ppv names except for wlad. would be intersting though.
Why don't Wlad & Peter once they dispatch of Brewster & Maskaev then fight each other that would be for the ring championship.
Then the Briggs/ Ibraginov winner fight Chagaev to see who next faces the winner of Wlad/ Peter.
i thought of it a couple times
it should happen
wonder what the ppv be called
One little thing though, DON KING. :(
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Don King made the 01 Middleweight tournament happen. But he promoted all those fighters I think.
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cc what an idea, shame it cant be done, power promoters like don king, and frank warren are killing the sport, they should be told its a sport not politics! I have an idea that would be brilliant but would never work, one promoter 4 each country that way it would be miles easier to make fights when u just gota deal with one person!Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
good god heavyweight boxing is awful i wish to god their was a young kid who could come along and obliterate the klitchkos, damn thank god that big tall russian guy lost and didnt contend with marcianos streak blasemphy
Thats true mate, glad nv, lost at weekend i dont know how a fighter of 7ft and 23 stone can lose to nebody! he looked dodgy against mcline until mcline picked up that knee injury. I think the trouble is that promoters dont want there prospects losing there unbeaten records so keep em ticking ova fighting bums, then when it comes to stepping up, you get a mismatch, because the unbeaten prospect thinks he is beta than he is with his padded record.Quote:
Originally Posted by pacdog
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Where the h... do al these russians keep popping up ?
Come on mate, I was surprised that Lamon Brewster was getting the mandatory slot for Wladimir's belt, cause he is a spent force and personally, I'd drop him out of that eight, and replace him with Valuev, cause lets face it....fighting gorillas sell seats. ;) And he'd make Klitschko feel like a short-arse.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkDestroyer
It is a GREAT bracket... I agree totally... But I think what we're all wishing for is some new friggin blood in this division... How long can we watch the same retreads fight each other. Ruslan is a faily fresh face but for god sakes give me a Tyson, a Holyfield, even a boring Lewis would do... If I see John Ruiz in another title fight I'll slit my wrists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unknowndonor
Unification tournament would be great. Just like the 80's when King and Butch Lewis put it together. If we could get this to happen in more divisions I think this would really be a boost to the sport because we would know for sure that we would get great fights.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
CC#710 my friend
honestly if i had to pay like some one forced me to buy tickets for a HW fight by putting a gun to my head id pay for a VITALI fight over any of the other ones mentioned and thats just being honest!
:coolclick: sadly i think we all wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by TheBESTP4P
I know this sounds crazy, but I think Oleg Maskaev vs. Sam Peter will be an entertaining fight. Oleg has a lot more skill than he gets credit for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
what about my idea to unify all 8 belts then whatever org tries to strip their title for some bs reason loses all credibility.
And Vitali ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Great idea though 8)
Personally, I think I'd like to see Sam Peter against Shannon Briggs cause they're both big punchers and both have stamina issues, so I reckon it would be an exciting punchers fight, with both of them going entirely for the KO and eventually one will punch himself out then get knocked out.
Arrgh, that's dreaming, they're all 12-round snoozers, and I just want to see excitement, I'd rather watch second-tier fighters go hell for leather than these defensive ninnies.
If you're gonna unify thats exactly what you have to do. Having a tournament that gets a few of the belts together isn't gonna cut it. You need to have a tournament that unifies the belts into one solid title instead of removeable pieces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136