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i really enjoy watching winky fight. great defence, amazing southpaw jab.
he can completely own a fighter with his fantastic jab cross combination.
i think he is a great great fighter.
i totally agree, you think he would have the same effect if he was right handed?
I think it is very low risk and often times very boring to watch. I hope Bernard Hopkins knocks him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlatinumBoy
yeah i believe it would.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlatinumBoy
you say its low risk, whats he supposed to do put his hands dwn so hes at a higher risk to get hit
lol i was going to see the same thing but i wouldn't mind bhop KOing him though ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by ThePlatinumBoy
My opinion of winky wright.. Is as follows..
He is an excellent fighter.. But not a very exciting fighter..
However..Winky is an interesting boxer and an interesting person for the following reason..
Rather then just fanfare..Winky has obtained something a little different.. You can't help but like winky because he is just easy to respect.. While you might say.. I like [Insert Prospect here]
Because he has fought such entertaining fights, shown promise and talks a good game etc..
Winky has had a pretty hard career..He is american..American fighters dont usually have to leave america to fight because america is where the best competition is at and thats the place where the publicity is at..
Winky has fought all over the world.. his only losses are either a fair while ago or diputed decisions and he is a fighters fighter.. Up front..Nice guy, and he wants to fight the best..
He fights smart.. its plain to see..Especially considering the level of his competition that he is a supreme boxer..While he isnt as popular as, mosely or de la hoya..Among fight fans he is and probably will be for a fair while.. A top p4p star..
Ive said the same about jermain taylor.. He went from a grown up prospect to World champ and p4p candidate in a matter of a few fights..Cos he'll take em all on..
He fights Joppy..A gateholder of middleweights..Hes the guy whos been in with the best and you see if your world class material on..
So then he fights hopkins, Gets two decisions..Some dusputed but still this is bernard hopkins..If your beating hopkins and not getting trampled and at least half the people watching saying you won..Then you special.. Then winky.. Keeps taking these big fights..How about a fight off..We'll take ouma..Not exactly a fight off kinda fighter..Then signs to fight spinks another big name fighter..
Now thats one hell of a rec.. and you consider him and compare that to winky then thats just crazy..
He fought vargas, Disputed decision, beat the great shane mosely twice, Tito a boxing masterclass,
soliman a decent contender, taylor a disputed draw.. quartey a great fighter, and signs to fight hopkins..Fighters like winky have real stones..
And when he keeps saying i want oscar i want floyd..You know he wants those fights..
If only all fighters were like winky.. Its hard to earn the level of respect he has when you arent the most exciting fighter out
im my opinion winky is the bestQuote:
Originally Posted by ds91
he proved it against tito and if he didnt change his stlye against taylor;he wouldve won
i give winky a year to be on top of any p4p list
after he beats dlh, bhop, and taylor in a rematch maybe even pbf
Its the perfect style to teach a kid boxing in the gym . It is nothing too advanced but it is very effective and when utilised by one of the greats its unbeatable.
Winky has mastered that peek a boo style to perfection . Sometimes it may not be great to watch but he is so good at shuttig fighters down with that defensive poise. Anyone who wants to learn how to box just study Winky Wright and you cant go wrong . The guy is pure class .
good article, that is spot on! have a cool click
what i mean by low risk is he never takes chances; rarely engages or commits to throwing a big punch because he wants to keep his D so tight...i mean that's his style hes a super defensive style...but that makes for a fighter who rarely presses the action or never does. im not saying he's bad. he's an awesome boxer. but it is a super low risk style. no he dont have to put his hands down. he shouldnt do that. but when he has someone in trouble it would be nice to see him try to finish the job. it would be nice to see him engage in a few exchanges once in awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by ds91
I like comparing glen johnson and winkys stance, two hands up on guard and quick jabs and pressure. glen doesn't have as good defense though, but I'll like both offensively. that is when winky gets on offense and pressure, he reminds me of glen johnsons full foward caslte combinations.
a lot of people say winky isn't entertaining but i think he is weather he gets defensively or offensively. his best at defense and can really counter anyone to death but when that defensive caslte gets annoyed and decides to attack full force boy your in trouble because winky can bring pressure and unbrakeable defense at the same time.
Winky is a genius in the ring and he never lets his emotions get him to change his style, hes consistant. I dont find it boring to watch him at all.
Its effective but boring
How can people call themselves boxing fans...but say that his style is boring?You must be that "fans" who only enjoy "brawlers".
ur boringQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
So what you saying he has an exciting style fuck off like i say its very effective but just not that excitingQuote:
Originally Posted by fightme
No, its not that. Winky's style is less exciting than a lot of great defensive fighters, say Pernell Whitaker, Willie Pep, and even Bernard Hopkins is pretty defensive. Im a fan of those guys and love watchin em fight, and they are not brawlers. Winky's style for the most part does make for boring fights. Watch on Delahoya/Mayweather 24-7 Episode 2 when Sugar Shane Mosley is imitating the styles of himself, Trinidad, Floyd and Winky and tell me which style looks more exciting and which looks more low risk and ultra-defensive. He practically turtle-shells the whole fight and throws mainly counter punches. Sure it works for him and he has accomplished some great things in the sport so im not trying to take away from the guy. But if you ask me his style is not that exciting and for the most part his fights (except for the Taylor match which I liked because I thought he actually showed some aggression) are pretty boring to watch. It's because he is so focused on keeping his hands and arms covering himself up that he never throws any big punches or looks to finish his opponents or even hurt them. Jim Lampley, Harold Lederman and Larry Merchant all called his style "low risk" and ultra defensive before I ever did. And it's their job to watch and analyze boxing matches. Winky Wright is a cool guy. He's a champion. But who would you rather watch fight, a fight with him or say, Manny Pacquiao? Or Roy Jones? Or Joe Calzaghe? Or Marco Antonio Barrera? Or Marquez? Or Klitschko (who is pretty defensive and technical too, but is more exciting to watch than Wright IMO)? And Im not hating I just call em like i see em...his style works well for him but it aint the most entertaining to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympian904
Winky Wright is probably my favortie fighter, I never find him boring to watch but I'm biased. He has been more offensively minded in his last few fights against Taylor and Quartey, however I don't think he'll fight very offensively against Hopkins, who's the biggest fighter he's fought.
Couldnt agree more.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
But I think Hopkins outpoints him ;) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by IronDanLaw
Disagree he always stands toe to toe always stands in punching range like he did with TitoQuote:
Originally Posted by diamonddavestafford
Anyway regarding Winky he is great fighter quite exciting to watch and beautiful defense it was like poetry in motion when he took Tito apart it was great boxing exhibition.
We will see mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I think Hopkins beats him too.
it is impressive. I do not like it alot since it can win for awhile. but a guy like Floyd would beat him everytime. Speed beats that style of Winky's fighting.
i respect winky alot he deserves mad respect/love for all his accomplishments.
his style is very defense oriented and extremely effective in that manner.
personally i can see how it can be rather boring but its by far consistent and has alot of grace and finesse to it tho!
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Originally Posted by GAME
CC#108.....Perfect way to describe Wright and his style.....Winky has a style that true fans of the Game ( NO PUN INTENDED) appreciate...We all love fast paced exciting action of course but true lovers of the sport appreciate both master offense and defense.....
Winky is the Best defensive fighter in the sport over the last 20 years easy....
He will also retire with a load of money and a solid legacy....PLUS!!!!!!
Wright will have all his wit's about him due to the fact he takes little punishment.....
The guy is a class act,,,never disrespectful,,never does anything to tarnish the sports image,,,,,
To bad we didn't have more guys like him
Honestly...it kills me that people think Winky's boring.
I've never understood it. I wonder what fights people gravitate towards when they make that decision.
Saying that Winky is a low risk fighter? That one's for me to grasp too.
Wright went toe to toe with Vargas, Shane, Taylor, Simon, & basically everyone else that he has fought. The only persons that Wright used a full on peek a boo for the duration was against Trinidad & Soliman. As amazing as I thought that show was...he caught the most flack for those two match ups.
Tactically, Wright is legitamately the best in his weight class...I still say that Wright's weight class is 154.
This hop up against Hopkins...I got a feeling he just shot himself in the foot...but I plan on being ringside to see it...win, lose, or draw.
Hey Wacko , what do you make of this ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Bernard Hopkins has nearly reached a deal to train under Freddie Roach
for his upcoming fight against Winky Wright, the longtime middleweight boxing champion said Saturday.
Hopkins, who's coming out of a brief retirement at 42,
hopes to work with Roach in Los Angeles during the next 11 weeks in preparation
for his 77-kilo (170-pound) bout against Wright on July 21 in Las Vegas.
Roach trained Oscar De La Hoya, Hopkins' business partner in Golden Boy Promotions,
for his megafight against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
"We don't have a deal yet, but I'm 99 percent sure we'll have a deal." Hopkins said.
Nazim Richardson, Hopkins' trainer for the last 18 months after his acrimonious split
rom longtime trainer Bouie Fisher, recently had a stroke that left him unable to work full-time with Hopkins.
Roach also has trained Manny Pacquiao
and Mike Tyson, but he rarely devotes himself full time to one fighter,
preferring to work daily with several boxers at his Hollywood gym.
Roach missed Pacquiao's last title defense against Jorge Solis last month
while working exclusively with De La Hoya.
If negotiations with Roach fall through,
Hopkins plans to go with Pat Burns, the former trainer of Jermain Taylor.
Hopkins briefly retired after his upset victory over light heavyweight Antonio Tarver in June,
but couldn't pass up a fight against Wright, who hasn't lost since 1999.
Hopkins went 12 years between defeats before Taylor won a split decision in July 2005
I Love it. I'm a huge fan of guys with a great jab, and who can defend themselves effectively. Obviously Winky fits into two of those catagories. I like the knockout as much as any other boxing fan, but I get an equal satisfaction watching Winky just humiliate guys with his style.
Honestly...I aint sold on Freddie Roach.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
I know that everyone thinks he's all that & a bowl of chocolate covered cherries...but I don't.
I really didn't think that he worked well with Oscar, he couldn't get Toney motivated enough IWO, & to me it seems that he get's a little to soft on his men...he's not sturn enough for me.
I DO NOT THINK HOPKINS SHOULD WORK WITH HIM.
From a stylistic point of view, Roach is known for his aggressive gameplans. Do you believe Hopkins should be thinking along those lines ? In his last fight the extra weight suited him but now he is coming down in weight , with a new trainer and approaching his mid 40s . I think Winky may prefer Hopkins to come at him , what do you reckon ?Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205