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We have got Mayweather vs Oscar Delahoya + Winky Wright vs Bernard Hopkins
Also Some great fights have been made lately Marquez vs Barrera i would like to know why people keep complaining about it i personally think boxing is going real well at moment.
Boxings not going well people would rather watch WWE or UFC. Boxing needs to get its shit together and get rid of all the second and third rate sanctioning bodies and all these crap international and intercontinental belts. All the worldwide boxing commisions should get together and sort boxing out.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
In that sense yeah its going great but the problem is that those great fights just dont seem to get enough public attention. Sadly it seems that most casual fans would rather watch 2 flabby bastards roll around in a cage.
I think boxing in general needs structuring. They keep talking before fights about ring size and type of gloves and this or that belt.
Do football fields have different size, does basketball get played for 10 minutes one day and 12 the next? No
We need:
One official ring size.
One official glove type and glove weight. (Might be different per weight class but not per fight)
One official fight length. Why should it be 4 or 6 or 10 or 12. Does baseball have less innings in the regular season than in the World Series? No. You know who plays less innings...little leaguers. You are professionals, fight a professional length.
For goodness sake One sanctioning body and ONE BELT per weightclass.
Here is another thing I would do. Every four years I would have the top 4 of each weight fight in a tournament for the Title. This might be a bit radical but it would be great. If you count all the weight classes and schedule them so they happen at different times imagine how many great fights we would have every year.
It is true that the Fight game has been on the slide for years really (not for us hardcore but for the casual fan) and forget Oscar and Floyd for a minute.
When the Heavyweights are rocking then that is when it'll come back.
Been downhill since Lennox retired.
The armchair fan loves a heavyweight fight and always has.
Massive respect to De La Hoya and Mayweather because they really have brought it back to the worlds attention.
My latest God son has watched all the 24/7's to date and he's 10 weeks old ;D his older brothers and sisters are all hooked on it so theres your proof. 8)
HAS to be a good fight though,it's vital Floyd makes a fight of it.
Personally, having only watched UFC, I don't see that it is entertaining in the same way that boxing is, and I didn't like it much, but obviously I'm in a diminishing group. For me, UFC was slow and not that much happened, and there was a lot of cagey stuff. I much prefer boxing, because a good percentage of fighters are there to try and achieve the win, rather than avoid defeat.Quote:
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And I agree about the big fights Ice, I think it's in a good state, if only more people would switch on to it.
I don't agree with that. As a guy who's boxed and has friends who have gone pro, I know how important it is to start guys off in the 4-6 rounders and work their way up.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
I also fully agree with non title bouts being 10 rounds, title bouts being 12. It makes title bouts seem that much more special IMO.
I don't see how this is a problem for boxing personally, althought I do agree with your other points.
some guys at work have asked whats the hype with this big fight at the weekend - obvioulsy its getting covergae in all the papers (only minor mind) and I have tried to explain to them.
They went on about which one was champion and which belt it was (they only really knew the WBC) - to be honest I don't really know who all the champions are these days or what belts they hold :-\ (am I alone here amongst boxing fans ??? I just go by the Ring ratings and champions and I know who the best in each weight is - couldn't care less aho holds an ABC belt !)
They then moaned about how much of a farce it was to have all these different champions - I told them every boxing fan agrees ! The alphabet boys have a lot to answer for....
Who has the power to do anything about it ? The fighters themselves - stop fighting for these stupid belts and go up against the best (fair enough - have a couple of easy fights in between to make some dough). Maybe one day The Ring belt will be THE belt. We need undisputed champions !
Unfortunately the casual fan would think people like Mayweather were bit part players if they weren't 'world champions' of some ABC body
One day maybe , one day..... :-\
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Originally Posted by Mark TKO
You know mate when Oscar has hung em up and is solely a Promoter we'll see better matchups for sure.
The best need to fight the best on a regular basis and he's all for that ;)
Greedy Promoters do the sport no good at all and Oscar is a boxing man through and through.
I still think Hatton should have joined Golden Boy 8)
The Heavyweight division being so poor is THE major factor though.
Some of our younger pups on here won't have any idea of the phenomenan that was Mike Tyson when he came on the scene ;)
MASSIVE draw and easily the most recognisable man on the planet back in the day.
I think people complain so much because they get obsessed with the past. It doesn't matter what the sport once was. If people weren't so obsessed with retired fighters, maybe they could see that there is a wealth of talent out there just waiting to showcase their talents.
This year alone I've seen some fantastic fights and the year is already promising alot more.
Soccer fields as the yanks would call it have varying sizes as do cricket grounds. Maybe when little boxers are boxing they could have smaller rings say 12ft by 12ftQuote:
Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan
Too many sanctioning bodies, too many titles, too many weight classes, poor judging and officiating are some of the major things that are ruining boxing.
While all of the above is true, many people watch boxing for exactly what it is. If it's a great fight, who gives a toss what title is on the line. I just want to see great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canvasback
Hardly anybody I know has any idea who the fook PBF and DLH are. That's the measure of how big boxing is, when the man in the street knows the top fighters.
People complain because the heavyweight division sucks. the other weight classes are pretty good. we've seen some pretty decent fights. there are some fights that could have been made that haven't but for the most part we've had good fights south of the heavyweight division.
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Exactly and i'm not reminising or anything but the world and his wife knew who Tyson was back in the day,even Frank Bruno was Huge in the UK well before he won anything.
i said it earlier in the thread...When the Heavyweight division is rockin again then so will boxing be 8)
He may not become champ (maybe not even in the Cruisers) but david Haye is tailor made for the Division and could be it's saviour.
he's got massive marketing potential and an exciting style that people want to see.
Bottom line is this,your average Joe wants to see the big boys KO'ing each other 8)
The Heavyweight division has always been the 'glamour' weight
damn Smash you're right, the heavies is where its at
thats it - am going to start eating pies and launch an assault on the heavyweight division !!
Everybody get behind me ! I'm about 154 lbs right now but live near a Mcdonalds
I want an easy couple of fights to start with so if anyone's got Audley's and Pele Reid's phone numbers please pass them on.
This is it folks !!! This is it !
Spot on mate (apart from Haye coz I'm far from sold on him) Heavyweight division badly needs a superstar to bring boxing back.Quote:
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Just eat Ricky Hatton ;D
I believe in you man. Sign with Frank Warren, he always gets the big fights for his guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
ROFL! CCQuote:
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
but i guess this mma and wwe bs is just more entertaining to people
Hey i like wwe because i've been watching it since i was a kid. I started watching boxing much later in my life and if it comes down to a wwe ppv or a boxing ppv (pending the fighters) i'll probably go with the boxing one. It is for the most part in working order except for the heavy division. This is the first time in well over 100 years that there hasn't been atleast a legitimate contender for titles in america.
AmericaQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
:sadclick: just for the hell of it
no nothin but wwe is fake dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
too fake the winners r picked before the fight
wwe is nothin but a sopeoprea with buff guys beautiful girls and fake fights in between
sorry but wwe is trash