What a great fight.This was a fight not that so called event between De La Hoya and Mayweather!More fights like this please! :appl: :boxing:
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What a great fight.This was a fight not that so called event between De La Hoya and Mayweather!More fights like this please! :appl: :boxing:
CC hell yeah that was a real fight.
Thats what Ive been telling you guys, everybody doubted Pavlik I couldnt understand why. NOW ALL YOU HATERS KNOW. Pavlik is exactly what ive been saying. Pantera talk some shit now
wow.. that indeed was a fight.. that was like 10x better than pbf and odlh fight.. 2 rounds is like 12 rounds of "the world awaits"
Come on man, your guy was an underdog and he won. Props to him now carry yourself with a little more class then that. They weren't haters, he was the less experienced of the two and Miranda was a wrecking ball. Thats not hate it's just a close fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
AMAT THAT WAS NOT A CLOSE FIGHT, NOW SHUT UP AND GIVE PAVLIK THE RESPECT HE DESERVES AND HAS NOW EARNED!
::** You'll be around a long time :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
OK clown, I have been picking Pavlik off and on the whole time. It's not about giving him respect, I've given him respect. He beat a good fighter. And he was the underdog so it was all the more impressive.
BUT, you acting like a fool on the forum, pounding your chest saying "I told you so" is not going to make you or the fighter you support liked by anybody. You and Pantera had differing opinions on the fight. He was always civil about it and you happened to be right and I'm sure he'll be civil when he comes back. You happened to be right this time. You'll be wrong other times, whether it's about Pavlik or another fighter I don't know. Chances are when you are wrong you run off and never return to the forum with the way you're posting right now. Pantera will be back I guarantee it so just chill, be proud of your man's win but no reason to beat up on Miranda fans, that's classless.
it wasn't close
a good slugfest
miranda should focus on defense
instead of the big the right
Wow, Ok I promoted Pavlik the most in this forum, Have some respect my friend.........ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
CC Duke ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
i dont understand why everyone is so defensive when i try to talk a little smack. Miranda did it for a long time and everyone loved it. Now I try to talk some shit and everyone hammers me. Thats not very fair. LOL
Go knock a bunch of guys out, headline a few HBO cards and then you can talk.
Common courtesy & ediguate aren't the greatest mysteries in the world...so don't play the fool & act like you don't know how to treat forum members with respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
No one likes to be told to shut up & everyone here is trying to debate & conversate...not argue & hate.
Ease up please...& things will roll a lot more smoothly for you here.
Incredible fight. Boxing needs more fighters and fights like this. I like Larry Merchant's comment about making the ring smaller, the gloves lighter and awarding more points to the fighter trying to make the fight.
i thort miranda looked drained in the first 30 seconds, his punches were not explosive i dont know why probably drained him self backstage from all the pressure. i dunno but did anyone else notice this??? and another odd thing was he didnt staredown with pavlik, didnt seem happy when they announce his name like in the AA fight and even worse he started backing up in the first 15 seconds without taking a punch....why? the other thing that could have happened was pavlik must have landed a short right hand which like he said himself doesnt look hard on tv but its dynamite. miranda after feeling the power may have been disheartened to pressure forward. i dunno tho, we'll see what the man pantera has to say for himself...
i dunno. im not making excuses for him but these things i noticed before the fight really got started?
That was a fight that warrants a huge payday. That was two guys trying to beat each other up.
Very impressive. I think the body shots broke Miranda down very hard shots in the first round. Hats off to both guys both showed strong chins and great willingness to fight. I don't know if Miranda was weight drained or just drained from the shots by Pavlik.
But Miranda's face looked like hamburger, that is some serious power.
I don't think Taylor wants to fight Pavlik.
Fabulous fight and what a performance by Kelly Pavlik.
He took the fight to Miranda and put him on the backfoot straight away. Miranda to his credit took alot of big bombs early on.
The HBO commentary team mentioned several times that Miranda had weight problems? Is that true?
He certainly seemed to lack snap in his punches.
I think Miranda can comeback from this defeat especially if he was weight drained while I hope and think that Pavlik can dethrone boring Jermain Taylor.
Did everyone else notice Miranda had 31 seconds of recovery time after the 1st knockdown and 17 seconds recovery time after the 2nd knockdown
Steve Smoger is almost as useless as Jay Nady and Richard Steele
Yeah I saw how long it took after the knockdowns. Larry Marchant is the man you guys. Giving Jermain Taylor shit hard core to his face. Hollering about the knockdown delays. Talking about boxing should really do something. I don't agree that there is anything wrong with the gloves though. Fuck Pavlik would have killed Miranda if he had less padding. ha ha ha. Even Lampley was bitching hard core about the judge that gave the fight to Spinks. Although this could be more his suck-ass loyalty to HBO fighters.
Speaking of HBO fighters......I love it when one of them loses like Miranda or looks shitty like Taylor. They get to be too much for me.
Miranda just ran out of gas it was one of them fights where who ever ran out of gas first lost the pace was awesome the fight was awesome the fighters were awesome my god what a fight one of the best for 2007
This fight was great 2 tough fighters just going for it
More than stamina. It was skill, a legitimate gameplan he used, and being aggressive. Pavlik could have played it safe as Lennox Lewis suggested but he kept with his plan and executed perfectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Riddle me this batman.. Usallaly underdogs lose alot of the rounds and come from behind with a shocking knockout like Freddy Cuiriel did to Ross Minter. This was a one sided thrashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
of course he spit his mouth piece out. He had half a break to recover. It should have been over in the 6th.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
The OHIO STATE BOY made good did he??? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
"One-sided thrashings" are boring. Last night's fight was an exciting war, with both fighters giving and taking. Pavlik himself said afterwards that Miranda hits "like a mule." So although the KO was devastating and Pavlik's win was totally conclusive, the fight was far from a "one-sided thrashing", IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Suppose it didnt make any difference to the end result but it annoys me when a fighter gets extra recovery time . If he landed a lucky shot on Pavlik after that there would have been uproar .Quote:
Originally Posted by southakron314
Pavlik and Spinks would be a dcent fight .They were the winners last night IMO
did you bet on Pavlik???...wait you haven't been around long enough...I had $10,000 on him...to win...Killersheep----SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!! :) That is how you back someone.....Quote:
Originally Posted by zekebox
Great battle. Pavlik showed more refined boxing skills than Miranda, but Miranda showed a big heart. What surprised me a little was that Miranda was backing up most of the time since the beginning of the fight. However, when he decided to fight at the center of the ring he made a lot better, hitting Pavlik with couple of good right hands. Probably, at this time the punishment that Miranda was receiving had the damage done. But, it was a great fight.
Im not one to say I told you so, but i told you so ;D Pavlik did what he said, and let his fists do the talking. Maybe Mirandas jaw was tired from runnin nonstop, so he couldnt take those shots. I also would like to add F*** Jim Lampley you woman beating bitch. Get off my dog Steve Smoger , one of the best refs out there, you know nothing shut the fuck up!! I give Miranda some credit, he has alot of heart, no skill but alot of heart.