Miranda: I'm sorry; I'll be back!

Pantera reveals weight problems, may return at 168

It was a disappointing Saturday night in Memphis for middleweight contender Edison 'Pantera' Miranda as he suffered the first clear loss of his career to Kelly Pavlik. But Miranda vows to be back in the ring and better than ever in the future. "I’m sorry to all my fans for my performance on Saturday night," said the gracious Miranda. "I let you down, but know that I tried my best with what I had to win the fight.




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Good luck to you Miranda.

Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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Yeah but then the kid says

"To Kelly Pavlik, congratulations on your win; it was an honor to be in the ring with a warrior who thinks and fights like you do, and I hope we can fight again in the future."

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Originally Posted by Bilbo

Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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Yeah but then the kid says

"To Kelly Pavlik, congratulations on your win; it was an honor to be in the ring with a warrior who thinks and fights like you do, and I hope we can fight again in the future."

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At least that is what the interpreter said ;D

Miranda probably hasn't been able to speak since he's had his jaw in traction and is semi conscious in hospital ;)

Lets have it right he did just all of a sudden run out of gas he ain't no bully perhaps he was tight at the weight he will be back and he did'nt let me down that fight was a classic

He has the talent to come back, Terry Norris got rocked early in his career by Julian Jackson came back to have a great career, then he got rocked by Simon Brown and came back and was great again, this is not the end for Miranda, but we will see how focused he is.

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He has the talent to come back, Terry Norris got rocked early in his career by Julian Jackson came back to have a great career, then he got rocked by Simon Brown and came back and was great again, this is not the end for Miranda, but we will see how focused he is.

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I'm disappointed in you evil. You're no substitue for VD thats for sure

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He has the talent to come back, Terry Norris got rocked early in his career by Julian Jackson came back to have a great career, then he got rocked by Simon Brown and came back and was great again, this is not the end for Miranda, but we will see how focused he is.

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I'm disappointed in you evil. You're no substitue for VD thats for sure

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I'm guessing your not a big Terry Norris fan.

It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny you say that, I have been reading the forum for about a year on advice from my brother, and have learned alot, now its time to live out my sportswriter fantasies. Anyway I don't think Miranda would have to work his way up to fight Lacy. They are ready for that fight this year, both need to turn their careers around.

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Pantera reveals weight problems, may return at 168

It was a disappointing Saturday night in Memphis for middleweight contender Edison 'Pantera' Miranda as he suffered the first clear loss of his career to Kelly Pavlik. But Miranda vows to be back in the ring and better than ever in the future. "I’m sorry to all my fans for my performance on Saturday night," said the gracious Miranda. "I let you down, but know that I tried my best with what I had to win the fight.




http://www.fightnews.com/


Good luck to you Miranda.

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Good luck Miranda, But don't blame the weight............ Good read CC

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It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny you say that, I have been reading the forum for about a year on advice from my brother, and have learned alot, now its time to live out my sportswriter fantasies. Anyway I don't think Miranda would have to work his way up to fight Lacy. They are ready for that fight this year, both need to turn their careers around.

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;D So you just chose the name....because? haha

Anyways, after 1 fight Lacy will be at the top again. He has top flight skills no doubt, just has had a run of bad luck and lost to a GREAT fighter and choked while doing so.

I see Miranda going the Sam Peter route, fighting some no hopers to get his confidence up and hopefully take off some of that roughness. His luster is now gone, nobody is going to crumble in front of him just because he snaps his fingers. It's like what Peter went through. So he has got to get better and get that confidence back up. He might struggle a bit but it happens.

Guys like Joel Julio, Kermit Cintron and Samuel Peter have all went through this. They were the next big thing, then when they got in the ring with someone who didn't back down, they were left to pick up the pieces and get better. So far, all those 3 have gotten significantly better and now Miranda is left to do the same thing.

Fair enough. I didn't know if it was those early body shots or if he was a little drained. Either way it was a great fight and I still think Miranda can come back.

I thought they both weighed in at 171 at the night of the fight.

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Originally Posted by amat

It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny you say that, I have been reading the forum for about a year on advice from my brother, and have learned alot, now its time to live out my sportswriter fantasies. Anyway I don't think Miranda would have to work his way up to fight Lacy. They are ready for that fight this year, both need to turn their careers around.

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;D So you just chose the name....because? haha

Anyways, after 1 fight Lacy will be at the top again. He has top flight skills no doubt, just has had a run of bad luck and lost to a GREAT fighter and choked while doing so.

I see Miranda going the Sam Peter route, fighting some no hopers to get his confidence up and hopefully take off some of that roughness. His luster is now gone, nobody is going to crumble in front of him just because he snaps his fingers. It's like what Peter went through. So he has got to get better and get that confidence back up. He might struggle a bit but it happens.

Guys like Joel Julio, Kermit Cintron and Samuel Peter have all went through this. They were the next big thing, then when they got in the ring with someone who didn't back down, they were left to pick up the pieces and get better. So far, all those 3 have gotten significantly better and now Miranda is left to do the same thing.

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HMM...I got a question....did Wacko take that bet they posted some time ago where if DLH losed he would have to change his name and make a new account?? Anybody remember that?

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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Pantera reveals weight problems, may return at 168

It was a disappointing Saturday night in Memphis for middleweight contender Edison 'Pantera' Miranda as he suffered the first clear loss of his career to Kelly Pavlik. But Miranda vows to be back in the ring and better than ever in the future. "I’m sorry to all my fans for my performance on Saturday night," said the gracious Miranda. "I let you down, but know that I tried my best with what I had to win the fight.




http://www.fightnews.com/


Good luck to you Miranda.

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Good luck Miranda, But don't blame the weight............ Good read CC

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:coolclick: back bro.

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HMM...I got a question....did Wacko take that bet they posted some time ago where if DLH losed he would have to change his name and make a new account?? Anybody remember that?

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I don't remember this, but Wacko picked PBF to win the fight, so he wouldn't have taken that bet.

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Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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Yeah but then the kid says

"To Kelly Pavlik, congratulations on your win; it was an honor to be in the ring with a warrior who thinks and fights like you do, and I hope we can fight again in the future."

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At least that is what the interpreter said ;D

Miranda probably hasn't been able to speak since he's had his jaw in traction and is semi conscious in hospital ;)

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yeah who knows what he really said but he seems like a decent guy. one thing for sure that was a pretty damn decent fight! best one i seen in awhile! as for going up to super middle, who is miranda gonna beat for a title? it's pretty much Kessler and Calzaghe with all the belts and I dont see him beating either...by a long shot. seriously, till this miranda guy grows a brain and starts working on improving his defense significantly, he will always be very, very limited and even on a fluke win over Calzaghe (say the old guy breaks both his hands or something) where Edison wound up with a SMW title, Pavlik could always know he would have a guaranteed W over Miranda for that title, should he decide to move up one weight class, which to him would be easy with his height; im sure we will see Pavlik fight as a SMW, LH and possibly even HW one day...as for Miranda, I dont see him going any heavier than LH and even if he goes up that far, I dont see him doing too well against the bigger guys there based on his performance against "The Ghost", on saturday night.

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Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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He did come in over.. And have to loose it quick..

Its probably no excuse..

But then again.. You need to be tip top to fight a guy like pavlik and miranda even if this affected him in a small way..It affected him big time when you look at the big picture..

But you gotta be honest.. He did look like the typical no pop tired fighter that had trouble making weight.. His own fault though.. If he wanted it bad enough then he should have worked through it perhpaps..

this fight really must of affect him alot
he pobaly never got beaten like that
miranda need to go back to the drawing boards

good luck to miranda. i like the guy and hope he does well

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Originally Posted by amat

It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny you say that, I have been reading the forum for about a year on advice from my brother, and have learned alot, now its time to live out my sportswriter fantasies. Anyway I don't think Miranda would have to work his way up to fight Lacy. They are ready for that fight this year, both need to turn their careers around.

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Your'e not Don Omega are you? :-X

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It's funny how someone with a name like that comes here and seemingly makes serious post. It makes me think it's a guest who has been reading RBR's, otherwise they would just be spamming. Kind of weird.

Anyways, Miranda looked bone dry from what little I've seen from the fight. Weight definitely did take it's toll imo, but Pavlik would have beat him at 162 too, so long as he wasn't scared, he was going to win.

But 168 is the place for him, maybe he can face Allan Green again and KO him this time. Then work his way back up and fight Jeff Lacy, and have to give this speech all over again :D

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It's funny you say that, I have been reading the forum for about a year on advice from my brother, and have learned alot, now its time to live out my sportswriter fantasies. Anyway I don't think Miranda would have to work his way up to fight Lacy. They are ready for that fight this year, both need to turn their careers around.

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Your'e not Don Omega are you? :-X

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I wish he would come around here. I should extend the olive branch for him to come here. I wonder if he has a myspace :D

I believe him the kid has got heart and wouldnt fold after getting rocked twice in the 6th. He told his corner he wanted to continue, brass balls baby. Hopefully he learned a lesson about running his mouth, seriously we all know actions speak louder than words. You know Kelly was pissed during training, and see what happened. Plus it also make people hate you i.e. Floyd, so just shut up and train your ass off Miranda that will say more than your mouth ever could.

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Ah the classic story.

Boy starts boxing, boy is big puncher, boy knocks everyone out, boy becomes bully, boy challenges brave fighter who stands up to bully, brave boxer beats down bully, bully blames weight,

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You sir are spot on , as his knockout list grew fast his mouth and head grew faster :)

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He has the talent to come back, Terry Norris got rocked early in his career by Julian Jackson came back to have a great career, then he got rocked by Simon Brown and came back and was great again, this is not the end for Miranda, but we will see how focused he is.

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Terry Norris was a way better fighter than Miranda.

Miranda was drained for sure. He didn´t have the same pop as in his other fights. If he had faced Pavlik without the weight problems, it would have been a tougher fight for Kelly. I´m not saying that he would lose, but in this fight Mirandas hands were more low than ever. And when Taylor said Miranda is overrated...Taylor felt a relief not facing a guy he was scared of. i like Mirandas big talking, like Mayorga. because even if they get pummeled, they atleast belive in themselfe and try for the win. Miranda will knock out Pavlik in the future. Or maybe Abraham will outbox Pavlik. Because Abraham is the best one out there.