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Miranda vs Kessler - ALMOST A DONE DEAL!
Great news!
The Kessler team came back to the table and everyone has agreed to the important numbers. Showtime will pick this up for a May 10 fight.
A great fight for us fans and a win win situation for the fighters.
I couldnt be happier! I hope my boy can prove his weight at 160lbs was an issue and he is gonna back bigtime at 168lbs.
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I really hope this fight happens, unlike Mundine Kessler is prepared to take a risk by fighting someone like Miranda. This will be a good fight!
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Never thought Kessler was scared! Great news that it maybe on! I think Miranda is in trouble here! Kessler has nearly every advantage IMO
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Good style match-up, hmm right now I'm picking Pantera because I don't think Kessler has enough pop to stop the assault.He could have had the hand problems, I don't remember what happened with that but he didn't look like he was gonna stop Joe with that right. Could be another Andrade type of fight though for Kessler, completely outboxing him.
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Although I think Miranda loses, I will be hoping he wins.
A trash talking, exciting, power punching cat! You gotta cheer for him. Sure he is not that skilled, but who cares! ;D
2008 is keeping pace with 2007. Some great fights being put together.
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I am a big fan of Edison but IMO this is a bad move on behalf of his camp...Miranda still needs a lot of adjustments before he fights guys like Kessler...Power alone is not enough
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It's going to be a long night for Miranda. Kessler is going to punish him
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Violent Demise
It's going to be a long night for Miranda. Kessler is going to punish him
Game. Set. Match.
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Wait a minute....
I just read this on fightnews... :confused: I'm confused.... :confused:
Where’s Kessler? That's the question on people's minds after the highly publicized statement from Edison Miranda calling out the former WBC/WBA super middleweight champion. Conspicuously quiet since Miranda let the world know that handlers of the "Viking Warrior” refused to accept the fight, Kessler - in need of some career rehabilitation after the 12 round boxing lesson he was given by Joe Calzaghe last November – is presumed by Seminole Warriors Boxing to be missing and refusing to come out until the big, bad 'Pantera' goes away. "I’m not surprised Kessler the Kitten disappeared when the big cat came around," said Miranda. "I wish him luck in his future endeavors as a model, actor, race car driver or video game player, because it’s obvious that he’s no longer a fighter." The proposed Miranda-Kessler fight received significant offers from both HBO and Showtime until Team Kessler backed out of negotiations. He has not been heard from since – not surprising, since few in the upper reaches of the super middleweight division have shown interest in dealing with the concussive punching Miranda. "I want the Kessler fight, the fans want it, but he doesn’t want to step up and fight the best," said Miranda. "He’s just like the rest of the division. I think the only man left in this fight game besides me is Winky Wright. Hey Winky, since Pavlik turned you down and you need a dance partner. Call my promoter and let’s do it."
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Is there a link? or something.... :confused:
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CutMeMick
Is there a link? or something.... :confused:
I read on another boxing forum that a Danish Newspaper said the fight was being negotiated and close to happening. I am Not sure if that news was older than the clipping you just posted or not though.
It seems like it may be older news as that release you posted was from today. Could Kessler have backed out?
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If this fight comes together, Kessler is going to punish Miranda. Too much skill and too much speed. Pavlik's was able to hit Miranda almost at will and unless Edison's defense has improved exponentially this could get very ugly.
I hate it when two fighters I really like fight one another.
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CFH
If this fight comes together, Kessler is going to punish Miranda. Too much skill and too much speed. Pavlik's was able to hit Miranda almost at will and unless Edison's defense has improved exponentially this could get very ugly.
I hate it when two fighters I really like fight one another.
I love it when two favorites fight. Miranda and Pavlik was a war, and I could not choose who I wanted to win. Both fought their hearts out and gave us fans a hell of a battle.
Miranda licked his wounds and is right back wanting to mix it up. That is the heart of a lion and win or lose, he is a true warrior just because he is willing to fight anyone. With so many out there playing it safe by carefully selecting opponents, protecting their records in an attempt to earn future paychecks, Miranda is a breath of fresh air.
Kessler never fought great opposition either until Calzaghe IMO. Miranda is a style he has never faced before and it should be interesting. Even though Miranda will most likely get out boxed, he will get his licks in and go down swinging. He will also test Kessler's chin.
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Pantera
Great news!
I thought you were a Miranda fan...
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That article Mick quoted was released last week and was poste here by Pantera late last week.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...d-pantera.html
This is a fight that should be made. Any Miranda fight is exciting, but if you add the focused, intimidating Kessler you have the potential for a great great fight.
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Fair play to Kessler if this comes off, thats a very stiff comback test.
I like Miranda but in the same way I like Mayorga, I like watching him get beat up.
Miranda is going to get beat up.......again.
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Miranda probably thinks this is a good time to fight Kess. Fair play to the guy, he calls out all the big names and genuinely want s to fight them, he losses this on though.
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I feel that after the loss to Calzaghe a new factor will become apparent with Kessler.
He has the power he has the size and to some extent the boxing ability.
But now I feel Kessler is going to become a much better fighter after the education he got from Calzaghe. I see his movement, rhythm and defense improving and an improvement of that magnitude could make Kessler a very dangerous fighter for the future.
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Pantera
Great news!
The Kessler team came back to the table and everyone has agreed to the important numbers. Showtime will pick this up for a May 10 fight.
A great fight for us fans and a win win situation for the fighters.
I couldnt be happier! I hope my boy can prove his weight at 160lbs was an issue and he is gonna back bigtime at 168lbs.
I couldn't under stand why Mikkel rejected the fight originally, but if it was a bargaining ploy, then now it makes sense.
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This will be a boxing lesson and i mean a boxing lesson, Miranda is exciting and he has a lot of power. But he is sloppy plus he has no defense and his punches are too wide. And against someone with good technical boxing skills like Kessler and plus against someone who throws punches straight down the pipe like Pavlik did, It will be a brutal beating IMO. The difference in skill level will be major when you watch this fight folks, Kessler by one sided UD.
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Deanrw
I love it when two favorites fight. Miranda and Pavlik was a war, and I could not choose who I wanted to win. Both fought their hearts out and gave us fans a hell of a battle.
Miranda licked his wounds and is right back wanting to mix it up. That is the heart of a lion and win or lose, he is a true warrior just because he is willing to fight anyone. With so many out there playing it safe by carefully selecting opponents, protecting their records in an attempt to earn future paychecks, Miranda is a breath of fresh air.
Kessler never fought great opposition either until Calzaghe IMO. Miranda is a style he has never faced before and it should be interesting. Even though Miranda will most likely get out boxed, he will get his licks in and go down swinging. He will also test Kessler's chin.
This is funny. Edison Miranda is like junk food. No good, but you love it anyway. He's calling fighters out because that's the only real way he's going to get $$$. He's a Ricardo Mayorga without the boxing skill and he's going to be chased right back into his home country for more club fights. He won't beat Taylor, Green, Jones, Kessler, Hanshaw or any other elite SMW. All you have to be able to do is get out of the way of a haymaker and Miranda is SOLVED. Pavlik took the shortcut; absorbing the blow so he could steamroll Pantera.
Kessler has never faced a style like mine, either, but I'm pretty certain he'd beat me up. And there's a world of difference between Kessler stepping up in competition and Miranda stepping up in competition. You could see Kessler was something special before Calzaghe (and I'm sorry, Librado Andrade was no slouch). Miranda tore guys heads off, but he didn't acquit himself well when it counted.
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Miranda has a lot more skill than Mayorga liquid.
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Majesty
I thought you were a Miranda fan...
Ouch.... ;D
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I think it'll make for an exciting fight and I also think Miranda will get some shots in. Not enought tho to pull off the win but I think he will test Kess more then what people think.
People ONLY mention the Pavlik TKO and all but think back and watch the fight and see how much Miranda landed and connected.....
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Miranda is a favorite of mine but he does not have the technical skill to outbox Kessler nor do I think he could land with enough regularity to get Mikkel out of there... Kessler is just to technically soumd:cool:
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The smart pick would probably be kessler but with a guy who can hit as hard as edison anything is possible. His skills are getting a tad better and that just slightly increases the chances of miranda landing some hard clean shots. Don't get me wrong miranda can be out boxed by almost anyone, just the more experience miranda gains the more dangerous he becomes for anyone. Either way this fight will be great.....now if we could just get miranda to teach witter what to say to get hatton to the table, his mouth sure got kesslers attention quick.
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CutMeMick
I think it'll make for an exciting fight and I also think Miranda will get some shots in. Not enought tho to pull off the win but I think he will test Kess more then what people think.
People ONLY mention the Pavlik TKO and all but think back and watch the fight and see how much Miranda landed and connected.....
Exactly!. He will test Kessler. Miranda has underrated reach and he will find Kessler's chin. Miranda can get sneaky shots in and Kessler, from what I have seen from him, pulls straight back often.
People like to refer to Miranda as some overly crude wild brawler. He is not as crude as people think and he gave two current world champions a run for their money. One of them ended up with a broken jaw, the other fought him in the trenches which smothered his shots. Which route will Kessler take? Well he is not a trench type of fighter so Miranda will be packing some steam on his shots.
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Mar
The smart pick would probably be kessler but with a guy who can hit as hard as edison anything is possible. His skills are getting a tad better and that just slightly increases the chances of miranda landing some hard clean shots. Don't get me wrong miranda can be out boxed by almost anyone, just the more experience miranda gains the more dangerous he becomes for anyone. Either way this fight will be great.....now if we could just get miranda to teach witter what to say to get hatton to the table, his mouth sure got kesslers attention quick.
HAHAH, It's true. He is one of the great mouths of boxing. He's there with Toney, Mayorga, Hopkins and Floyd.
He knows how to sell a fight. The styles match up well. Kessler will be on his backfoot all night but he'll be looking to counter Miranda's wide shots anyway...
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I think this will be a closer fight than many expect. I remember Miranda landing some absolute gems on Pavlik.
If the same happens to Kessler, who knows.
Does Kessler have the same level of determination and heart as Pavlik? Can he absorb the shots just like Pavlik did? And can he fire back with enough power and intensity as Pavlik did?
I think a lot on here just remember him being ko'd but the fight was very close. Pavlik's chin and heart kept him in that fight.
There is a chance Kessler can dominate with straight punches. But there is also a chance that he could unravel if he's hurt. Nobody has ever seen him in a situation like that.....so it could be very interesting.
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Deanrw
Exactly!. He will test Kessler. Miranda has underrated reach and he will find Kessler's chin. Miranda can get sneaky shots in and Kessler, from what I have seen from him, pulls straight back often.
People like to refer to Miranda as some overly crude wild brawler. He is not as crude as people think and he gave two current world champions a run for their money. One of them ended up with a broken jaw, the other fought him in the trenches which smothered his shots. Which route will Kessler take? Well he is not a trench type of fighter so Miranda will be packing some steam on his shots.
I agree with what you say. People here are making it seem like Miranda will just stand there and get outboxed like Mirandas gonna be armless and wont be throwing back. I'll say this if Joe rocked Mikkel then imagine what a shot from Miranda could possibly do?
And you guys know Kess is my boy from way back before he became World Champ. I just never underestimate opponents ESPECIALLY live ones like Miranda.
COME ON KESS!!! Make it happen... :cool:
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I just sent Pantera a message on myspace and here is what he says:
"We are waiting on an answer from his team".
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Kessler won't be able to push Miranda backwards like Pavlik did. Pantera can pull it off if he doesn't take alot of right hands flush.
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leftylee
I just sent Pantera a message on myspace and here is what he says:
"We are waiting on an answer from his team".
And you think Edison manages the page himself why?
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DaxxKahn
And you think Edison manages the page himself why?
he doesn't even speak english;D
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I was thinking about that now PoB, I didn;t think Miranda spoke english. Perhaps he isn't the trash talker he appears to be, maybe all his comments are full of respect except that his translator has a sense of humour.
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Miranda's Own Words: "Kessler es un opositor formidable. El es una lucha muy resistente y estoy mirando adelante a ella."
Actual Translation: "Kessler is a formidable opponent. He is a very tough fight and I am looking forward to it"
Miranda's Spokesman Translation: "Kessler is not a man. He should be playing checkers or water polo. Those Tattoo's do not make him tough."
;D
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Bomp
I was thinking about that now PoB, I didn;t think Miranda spoke english. Perhaps he isn't the trash talker he appears to be, maybe all his comments are full of respect except that his translator has a sense of humour.
Warriors does have a good PR team, but I wouldnt be surprised if they talk with Edison before coming out with those releases.
If you have ever seen Miranda speak live, like at a press conference, these releases refelct his personality. He can go on forever behind the mic and usually has the audience laughing with his comments. A pretty funny dude.