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Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
I just watched Margarito and Cintron 2, and besides his workrate there is nothing impressive about Antonio Margarito except his chin. He doesn't hit ridiculously hard, he's as slow as Baldomir, and he throws the widest punches I've ever seen. If he was in there against Mayweather he wouldn't be landing 15% of his punches, and no he would not break Mayweather down, I could see Cotto's power and sharpness maybe doing it, but Margarito doesn't have the strength or power to hurt Mayweather nor does he have the footspeed to keep up. This fight would look almost exactly like Mayweather-Baldomir except that Margarito would be throwing more punches. I see Vernon Forest, ODLH, Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Spinks, maybe even Mayorga all beating Margarito at 147-154... he is way overrated on this forum.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
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Taeth
I just watched Margarito and Cintron 2, and besides his workrate there is nothing impressive about Antonio Margarito except his chin. He doesn't hit ridiculously hard, he's as slow as Baldomir, and he throws the widest punches I've ever seen. If he was in there against Mayweather he wouldn't be landing 15% of his punches, and no he would not break Mayweather down, I could see Cotto's power and sharpness maybe doing it, but Margarito doesn't have the strength or power to hurt Mayweather nor does he have the footspeed to keep up. This fight would look almost exactly like Mayweather-Baldomir except that Margarito would be throwing more punches. I see Vernon Forest, ODLH, Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Spinks, maybe even Mayorga all beating Margarito at 147-154... he is way overrated on this forum.
If Clottey was able to beat the holy shit out of Margarito for 5 rounds then Mayweather should be able to do it for 12. That's my reasoning. The guy can't block right hands and Mayweather probably has the best right hand lead in boxing.
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Taeth
I just watched Margarito and Cintron 2, and besides his workrate there is nothing impressive about Antonio Margarito except his chin. He doesn't hit ridiculously hard, he's as slow as Baldomir, and he throws the widest punches I've ever seen. If he was in there against Mayweather he wouldn't be landing 15% of his punches, and no he would not break Mayweather down, I could see Cotto's power and sharpness maybe doing it, but Margarito doesn't have the strength or power to hurt Mayweather nor does he have the footspeed to keep up. This fight would look almost exactly like Mayweather-Baldomir except that Margarito would be throwing more punches. I see Vernon Forest, ODLH, Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Spinks, maybe even Mayorga all beating Margarito at 147-154... he is way overrated on this forum.
have you ever started a thread that wasn't about mayweather or Roy jones?
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
Margarito is a tough fighter and his workrate makes him entertaining, but he is not an elite fighter and never will be.
Cotto is better at every aspect of the game, and I expect him to decisively beat Margarito. Mayweather would do the same.
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I just watched the first half of Clottey Margarito and this reminds me how limited of a figher Margarito is. Clottey's hand speed and movement gave Tony fits until he hurt his hand. Clottey was landing quick, short, hard punches on Tony at will. I thought the Cotto fight was a pick'em fight but Cotto is a bigger puncher and better boxer than Clottey. I'm starting to think Cotto will torch Margarito. Head movement, lateral movement, and good defense negates Tony's pressure, he will be swinging at air against both Cotto and Floyd.
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I pretty much give cotto a slim slim chance at beating mayweather....i give tony even less. But at the same time a fight between those two would be great and either will deserve a shot to prove me and anyone else wrong. Margarito for one thing is just too damn slow in comparison to pbf. I could see him throwing 100 plus punches a round and landing very few, and being pot shotted inbetween. Cotto would be a much better match imo.
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I agree, I really hope Cotto/ Margarito comes of next... it's a great match-up.
I also agree with the topic of the thread that Margarito would have major issues vs Floyd
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albsur2006
I just watched the first half of Clottey Margarito and this reminds me how limited of a figher Margarito is. Clottey's hand speed and movement gave Tony fits until he hurt his hand. Clottey was landing quick, short, hard punches on Tony at will. I thought the Cotto fight was a pick'em fight but Cotto is a bigger puncher and better boxer than Clottey. I'm starting to think Cotto will torch Margarito. Head movement, lateral movement, and good defense negates Tony's pressure, he will be swinging at air against both Cotto and Floyd.
Lets be fair here though Tony was not 100 percent before the fight he twisted his ankle and had other complications, which El Gamo will be able to tell you the full story on.
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Taeth
I just watched Margarito and Cintron 2, and besides his workrate there is nothing impressive about Antonio Margarito except his chin. He doesn't hit ridiculously hard, he's as slow as Baldomir, and he throws the widest punches I've ever seen. If he was in there against Mayweather he wouldn't be landing 15% of his punches, and no he would not break Mayweather down, I could see Cotto's power and sharpness maybe doing it, but Margarito doesn't have the strength or power to hurt Mayweather nor does he have the footspeed to keep up. This fight would look almost exactly like Mayweather-Baldomir except that Margarito would be throwing more punches. I see Vernon Forest, ODLH, Cotto, Mosley, Mayweather, Spinks, maybe even Mayorga all beating Margarito at 147-154... he is way overrated on this forum.
Almost agree with everything except both Spinks and Mayorga would not beat him, PBF would catch a cold from all the missed Margarito shots flying by. Easy UD win for PBF against Margo. He just might land a good shot on Cotto and you never know in boxing!
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Well to be honest it will take a flawed fighter to beat Mayweather. Nobody can outbox or outsmart PBF. Wide punches are effective against Mayweather and keeping pressure on him is a must. There are some guys that can potentially beat Mayweather and Id put Margarito on that list. Forrest, Cotto, Quintana, and Williams are all guys that I could see beating Mayweather all for different reasons. I also think Joel Julio has a good style to beat Mayweather in a couple years if Floyd is still fighting.
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tony is not gifted in speed or in power etc but tony is one of those fighters that knows how to beat you. thats what makes him dangerous and floyd knows it.When tony is tony the tiger margarito, he can dominate fighters in front of him. Sure it may seem he wont be able to hit floyd with all of floyds running and ducking. Thats fine though cause tony is one of the decieving veteran fighters out there. He gets down to the nitty gritty and finds the route to a victory. Im not saying he'll beat floyd for sure but what im sure of his he is likely to find a way to. Remember floyd/castillo? can you figure out how castillo was able to land? im sure tony can figure how to.
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If Margarito is a guy who knows how to win then why does he 5 loses on his record? I am not even saying this just concerning Mayweather, but he is the guy everybody has been takling about being scard of Tony. IMO it will take a lot better pressure fighter to beat Mayweather. Roy JOnes Jr lost to GLen Johnson because Glen throws nice quick, sharp punches on the inside. A guy similar to that is Cotto who right now I give the best chance of giving Mayweather a run for his money besides maybe a guy like SPinks who is southpaw. The who beats Mayweather will have to be able to switch up the pace, and really be able to improvise in the ring. Castillo fought a slow steady pace against MAyweather, and thats why he was countering MAyweather as good as anyone, and why he was successful with MAyweather against the ropes, but Castillo is a much better technical inside fighter than MArgarito, he's faster, p4p a harder hitter, and he also has an iron jaw.
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Julius Rain
tony is not gifted in speed or in power etc but tony is one of those fighters that knows how to beat you. thats what makes him dangerous and floyd knows it.When tony is tony the tiger margarito, he can dominate fighters in front of him. Sure it may seem he wont be able to hit floyd with all of floyds running and ducking. Thats fine though cause tony is one of the decieving veteran fighters out there. He gets down to the nitty gritty and finds the route to a victory. Im not saying he'll beat floyd for sure but what im sure of his he is likely to find a way to. Remember floyd/castillo? can you figure out how castillo was able to land? im sure tony can figure how to.
Like I said Castillo is a way better, faster, technically trained fighter htan TOny. His punches were sharper, he used a lot of holding on the inside to get his punches off, and his was able to time Mayweather because Mayweather fought differently back then. Because Mayweather hardly uses the jab anymore its almost impossible to time him, and Castillo picked his punches while Margarito just throws anything. DId you watch Mayweather vs Chavez, N'Dou? THat more how I see this fight going, but even those two were faster than Tony.
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Taeth
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Julius Rain
tony is not gifted in speed or in power etc but tony is one of those fighters that knows how to beat you. thats what makes him dangerous and floyd knows it.When tony is tony the tiger margarito, he can dominate fighters in front of him. Sure it may seem he wont be able to hit floyd with all of floyds running and ducking. Thats fine though cause tony is one of the decieving veteran fighters out there. He gets down to the nitty gritty and finds the route to a victory. Im not saying he'll beat floyd for sure but what im sure of his he is likely to find a way to. Remember floyd/castillo? can you figure out how castillo was able to land? im sure tony can figure how to.
Like I said Castillo is a way better, faster, technically trained fighter htan TOny. His punches were sharper, he used a lot of holding on the inside to get his punches off, and his was able to time Mayweather because Mayweather fought differently back then. Because Mayweather hardly uses the jab anymore its almost impossible to time him, and Castillo picked his punches while Margarito just throws anything. DId you watch Mayweather vs Chavez, N'Dou? THat more how I see this fight going, but even those two were faster than Tony.
forget about it taeth, you know how in boxing a fighter comes in as a huge underdog and he gives a whole lot of problems to the fighters thats suppose to just maul him. Well this is how it could go down, tony showing nothing much to be able to win and floyd is suppose to be an unlitimate slick boxer fighter but gets run down somehow with tony's ways.
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Taeth, I totally agree. You actually beat me to the Baldomir comparison. Floyd would almost pitch a shutout against Tony. I can't see Tony winning more than 2-3 rounds if any.
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THat COULD happen, but I am just saying... People in the Ring magazine, on espn, and other sites thought Baldomir's toughness and stamina and timing would eventually catch Mayweather only to have MAyweather run away with every round. There was a ton of people that thought Oscar was going to knock Mayweather out, but he wasn't able to. All I am saying is if OScar can't land on Mayweather than I have a hard time seeing Margarito landing on Mayweather.
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Margarito is clearly a better fighter than Baldomir. But I still don't see him winning more than a couple rounds against Floyd.
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Floyd would beat Margarito imo. But it would be his toughest fight.
And Marg would wreck this Shane Mosley.No doubt about that in my mind.I've said that for a while. Mosley wouldn't outbox Tony.Nor does he have a good jab. He'd use his handspeed,realise t's not enough and get outworked and outhustled.
As for using Clottey v TOny as an example.It's silly. Tony went into the fight with a wrist injury and an ankle injury,ergo the arm punches. He couldn't use his fulll force.Mayweather fights NOTHING like Clottey. Clottey stood there and banged with Tony,countered. That's like saying Tony beat Cintron so now he can beat Mayweather.It's dumb.
And people use the analogy that so and so is faster than Marg but it's dumb because EVERYONE is faster than Tony. Hasn't stopped him beating them though has it? Also,who gave Floyd his toughest fight?Was it Judah or Oscar?NO.It was the considerably slower JLC.;);)
With regards to Tony's losses.Do some research:go check Boxrec and see how old he was before you open your mouth.;)
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
These threads are stupid as hell. Here's an idea... How about they fight sometime so we can ACTUALLY see what happens.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
there's no point saying margarito can't do this or that when mayweather hasn't proved that by actually fighting him
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
Margarito has a granite chin and a stoney mentality.
He is the type of fighter that brings credability to a division as in order to beat him a fighter must be extremely skilled or of greater determination.
In fighting Mayweather we must remeber Margarito would avail of a huge advantage in reach height and physicality.
In order to compete with Mayweather, margarito would have to expend a lot of energy in movement, an area he lacked ion in fights such as williams and Cintron, but with his mentality he could stick to the job and although I don't see him beating Mayweather I see him presenting a tough fight.
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Won't ever happen unfortunately, unless Margarito flukes a KO, then Floyd will jump at the chance, like he did Baldomir.
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Can't see Floyd losing to Margarito either, but can see Margarito being a pain in the ass fight for him, and one where Floyd would really need to utilize his mobility, especially his lateral movement, because Margarito will keep coming,
It would also be about angles for Floyd too, stopping Margarito from getting set, so as to keep him moving and keeping him off balance...
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I dont see how Margarito would be causing problems for Mayweather because he wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather, like I said before people thought Baldomir would give Mayweather a really tough fight because of his mentality and granite chin, but Mayweather drained that determination right out of Baldomir. Margarito isn't really better than baldomir. He hasn't foughten really good boxers who can move, and anyone who used movement against him has given Margarito a ton of problems.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
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Taeth
I dont see how Margarito would be causing problems for Mayweather because he wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather, like I said before people thought Baldomir would give Mayweather a really tough fight because of his mentality and granite chin, but Mayweather drained that determination right out of Baldomir. Margarito isn't really better than baldomir. He hasn't foughten really good boxers who can move, and anyone who used movement against him has given Margarito a ton of problems.
Baldomir is 5'7" tall. Margarito is 5'11" tall.
That changes the intangibles completely around. You cannot compare Margarito to Baldomir, they are completely different beasts. Floyd's stick and move tactics would be more dangerous, as his window within Tony's punching range would be extended in order to get his own shots off.
Also Baldomir has no power compared to Margarito.
They are not even comparable.
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Taeth
I dont see how Margarito would be causing problems for Mayweather because he wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather, like I said before people thought Baldomir would give Mayweather a really tough fight because of his mentality and granite chin, but Mayweather drained that determination right out of Baldomir. Margarito isn't really better than baldomir. He hasn't foughten really good boxers who can move, and anyone who used movement against him has given Margarito a ton of problems.
You deserve more negative reo for saying Tony isn't better than Baldo.Seriously,you're a hater son!:D:D
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
The same shit would be said about Ray Robinson or Henry Armstrong if they were still around in their primes...
Robinson can't touch Mayweather....I watched Armstrong defend all three world titles in all three different divisions in one night and Mayweather would not even have to show up to beat him....Blah Blah Blah...
It is never a post that states.."In my opinion"...Just always supposed to be fact:-\.....If Robinson was around in his prime today it would be
"Robinson would not even be able to land a jab on Floyd, He told me so while I was in line behind Jay Nady waiting my turn to service him"...
Or if Hank Armstrong was around it would be...
"I watched Armstrong defend all three titles in all three divisions in one night against the top contenders and after watching the fights I know if he faced PBF he would look like nothing more then a club fighter".....
:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beat deadhorse::beatdeadhorse:
Get off the Floyd bandwagon....Funny thing is the guys who make these comments about Floyd like he is some kind of freaking God...Make just about ZERO...threads or relative post about anyone else in boxing period no matter who they are fighting....
IN MY OPINION!!!!!.......It shows limited knowledge on the sport.
Here is a legit question why has PBF not faced a prime opponent outside a much smaller Hatton in almost 6+ years????...C'Mon give the bullshit excuses and give the old story on how brave he was to fight DLH at 154 :throwup:......You fellows embaress yourself with these threads and don't even know it....
Lates see Floyds last opps..
DLH- Has beaten Mayorga and Yori Boy in the last 5 years and thats it...Everyone knows he lost to Sturm
Baldomir- Enough said
Judah- Just came off a loss and has not been worth his salt since Tszyu kicked his ass
Gatti- Arturo was shot and everyone knows it
Mitchell- :rolleyes:
Bruseles-:-\
After a while you have to ask yourself..."Is he really performing that good or is it who he is going against that makes him look that good".....
Floyd is a damn good fighter do not get me wrong but people get a bit out of control when it comes to praising his skills...
I am starting to believe that he really is ducking Cotto and any other brutal puncher out there
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DaxxKahn
The same shit would be said about Ray Robinson or Henry Armstrong if they were still around in their primes...
Robinson can't touch Mayweather....I watched Armstrong defend all three world titles in all three different divisions in one night and Mayweather would not even have to show up to beat him....Blah Blah Blah...
It is never a post that states.."In my opinion"...Just always supposed to be fact:-\.....If Robinson was around in his prime today it would be
"Robinson would not even be able to land a jab on Floyd, He told me so while I was in line behind Jay Nady waiting my turn to service him"...
Or if Hank Armstrong was around it would be...
"I watched Armstrong defend all three titles in all three divisions in one night against the top contenders and after watching the fights I know if he faced PBF he would look like nothing more then a club fighter".....
:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse::beat deadhorse::beatdeadhorse:
Get off the Floyd bandwagon....Funny thing is the guys who make these comments about Floyd like he is some kind of freaking God...Make just about ZERO...threads or relative post about anyone else in boxing period no matter who they are fighting....
IN MY OPINION!!!!!.......It shows limited knowledge on the sport.
Here is a legit question why has PBF not faced a prime opponent outside a much smaller Hatton in almost 6+ years????...C'Mon give the bullshit excuses and give the old story on how brave he was to fight DLH at 154 :throwup:......You fellows embaress yourself with these threads and don't even know it....
Lates see Floyds last opps..
DLH- Has beaten Mayorga and Yori Boy in the last 5 years and thats it...Everyone knows he lost to Sturm
Baldomir- Enough said
Judah- Just came off a loss and has not been worth his salt since Tszyu kicked his ass
Gatti- Arturo was shot and everyone knows it
Mitchell- :rolleyes:
Bruseles-:-\
After a while you have to ask yourself..."Is he really performing that good or is it who he is going against that makes him look that good".....
Floyd is a damn good fighter do not get me wrong but people get a bit out of control when it comes to praising his skills...
I am starting to believe that he really is ducking Cotto and any other brutal puncher out there
What the fuck are you talking about?... idiot.
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Taeth
I dont see how Margarito would be causing problems for Mayweather because he wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather, like I said before people thought Baldomir would give Mayweather a really tough fight because of his mentality and granite chin, but Mayweather drained that determination right out of Baldomir. Margarito isn't really better than baldomir. He hasn't foughten really good boxers who can move, and anyone who used movement against him has given Margarito a ton of problems.
You deserve more negative reo for saying Tony isn't better than Baldo.Seriously,you're a hater son!:D:D
I am not saying he's better or worse, I am saying is they are both limited athletically, and thats why they would never beat Mayweather.
WHo cares if Margarito is 5'11, Thats how tall Oscar is, and he can't land on MAyweather, thats how tall Diego COrrales was, look how that fight turned out. THats how tall Phillip N'Dou was, and that was another easy fight for Mayweather.... Mayweather likes fighting taller opponents, especially because in order for them to take advantage of their height they have to be good technical boxers which Margarito isn't, they need a good jab which Margarito doesn't have, and they also need to stand up straight which really slows down their footspeed, and as if Margarito needs to lose anymore footspeed when he is trying to catch Mayweather.
I don't hate Margarito, I could care less about him, what I do hate is how a site with relatively well versed posters in boxing are dry humping this limited fighter who hasn't really beaten any valid opponents. He has trouble with the type of boxer Mayweather is, and there have been at least ten more deserving guys to fight Mayweather than him. Regardless of MAyweather I hope Cotto can handle Marg's punch because if he can COtto will destroy this buffoon.
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Taeth
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Taeth
I dont see how Margarito would be causing problems for Mayweather because he wouldn't be able to catch Mayweather, like I said before people thought Baldomir would give Mayweather a really tough fight because of his mentality and granite chin, but Mayweather drained that determination right out of Baldomir. Margarito isn't really better than baldomir. He hasn't foughten really good boxers who can move, and anyone who used movement against him has given Margarito a ton of problems.
You deserve more negative reo for saying Tony isn't better than Baldo.Seriously,you're a hater son!:D:D
I am not saying he's better or worse, I am saying is they are both limited athletically, and thats why they would never beat Mayweather.
WHo cares if Margarito is 5'11, Thats how tall Oscar is, and he can't land on MAyweather, thats how tall Diego COrrales was, look how that fight turned out. THats how tall Phillip N'Dou was, and that was another easy fight for Mayweather.... Mayweather likes fighting taller opponents, especially because in order for them to take advantage of their height they have to be good technical boxers which Margarito isn't, they need a good jab which Margarito doesn't have, and they also need to stand up straight which really slows down their footspeed, and as if Margarito needs to lose anymore footspeed when he is trying to catch Mayweather.
I don't hate Margarito, I could care less about him, what I do hate is how a site with relatively well versed posters in boxing are dry humping this limited fighter who hasn't really beaten any valid opponents. He has trouble with the type of boxer Mayweather is, and there have been at least ten more deserving guys to fight Mayweather than him. Regardless of MAyweather I hope Cotto can handle Marg's punch because if he can COtto will destroy this buffoon.
:scratchchin:....:punchangry:...;D
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I am not trying to be mean to you Daxx, but I have no idea why you brought up Henry Armstrong or Ray Robinson? Both of them would have given Mayweather a run for his money, and Robinson would have beaten him, but Robinson is a natural welterweight with amazing speed, power, granite chin... he isn't like Margarito because he has talent and skill. Henry Armstrong again is much faster than MArgarito, much better at doing what he does, When was Amrstrong brought up anywhere? Also how is Hatton much smaller? Tell me what weight Hatton walks around at, and what weight class he started off in? 140? Isn't that 10 pounds above where Mayweather started? Aren't more than half(closer to 80%) Mayweather fights at 135 or below.
About MAyweather vs Gatti: A lot of people were saying Gatti was going to win, do you want me to look it up for you?
Dela Hoya: He sure was hanging in there against B-HOp for quite awhile, and yes he did lose to Sturm, but he deserved the nod over Mosley in their second fight and over Trinidad. He also beat the shit out of Mayorga in a way we haven't seen before(it was way worse than Mayorga's fight with Trinidad).
Name one guy Margarito has beaten worth mentioning besides Clottey? Nobody. thats what I thought. Cintron is a joke.
Also I do not just make threads about Mayweather, maybe those are the only ones you clue into, but then again you never know what you are talking about.
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Taeth
I am not trying to be mean to you Daxx, but I have no idea why you brought up Henry Armstrong or Ray Robinson? Both of them would have given Mayweather a run for his money, and Robinson would have beaten him, but Robinson is a natural welterweight with amazing speed, power, granite chin... he isn't like Margarito because he has talent and skill. Henry Armstrong again is much faster than MArgarito, much better at doing what he does, When was Amrstrong brought up anywhere? Also how is Hatton much smaller? Tell me what weight Hatton walks around at, and what weight class he started off in? 140? Isn't that 10 pounds above where Mayweather started? Aren't more than half(closer to 80%) Mayweather fights at 135 or below.
About MAyweather vs Gatti: A lot of people were saying Gatti was going to win, do you want me to look it up for you?
Dela Hoya: He sure was hanging in there against B-HOp for quite awhile, and yes he did lose to Sturm, but he deserved the nod over Mosley in their second fight and over Trinidad. He also beat the shit out of Mayorga in a way we haven't seen before(it was way worse than Mayorga's fight with Trinidad).
Name one guy Margarito has beaten worth mentioning besides Clottey? Nobody. thats what I thought. Cintron is a joke.
Also I do not just make threads about Mayweather, maybe those are the only ones you clue into, but then again you never know what you are talking about.
It is called sarcasim brain scientist...You can't figure that out but I am the one who never knows what he is talking about
And yet I never mentioned your name in my post...There are several people here who have the habit of acting as though Mayweather is just shy of walking on water...so it must have been your conscience that made you react.....
I can acre less how you reply to anything I post...You and your opinion mean about as much to me as Charlie Zelnoff means to the title picture....
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
The thing with these Mayweather fans is they seem to hypothetically match up a guy against Floyd and if they think Floyd will win then there is no reason for Floyd to fight him.
Question for Floyd fans..... Who do you want Floyd to fight?
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That's not it at all... I think Cotto has a chance, even though its very small its still there. Thus I really want him and Mayweather to fight, and I would love to see how they match up. Margarito however I don't care for, I've seen 6 or so guys with his style try to fight MAyweather and I want something new. An orthodox fighter who can box really well, or something like that. Hatton made MAyweather fight an exciting fight at the end, Cotto I believe would bring the best out of Mayweather as well especially because I think Mayweather could hurt Cotto, but MArgarito is a guy who will just come forward and not be able to get anything done... thats not the type of fight I want to see if Mayweather is only going to fight a few more times... Bring on Cotto bring on Paul Williams, but leave the Margarito fights for fights that he will be more interesting in, like against Cotto or a guy who can't box as well.
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OK. The Wiz- I'd like to see Floyd fight Tony, because it would be a shutout. Tony has no chance, besides the general "punchers chance". And unbiased people know this man. Then all the fuss about a match that will be lopsided will go away.
DaxxKhan- Cotto beat an aging Mosely who lost the second Oscar fight, and 2 against Forrest, and 2 against Winky. Quintana? U really believe he could beat Floyd? Judah, got beat by floyd, and everyone else that Cotto has fought Floyd would have demolished. So, with that being said, who has fought better, that is around Floyd's weight? You discard Oscar, but not Mosely? WTF? Mosely has only beaten chumps too. What, Mosely beat Vargas, WHO LOST TO MAYORGA, WHO LOST TO OSCAR? That doesnt make much sense.
In your defense, I agree with you that Floyd can't walk on water, and I would personally like to punch him in the face sometimes, but not all Floyd fans r just your basic nut-huggers. Now, with that being said, Robinson-Floyd? Although I'd root for my boy, Ray would probably win the first one on points. Considering that Floyd is one of the best adjusters, I'd give him a chance in tha rematch, because he's a gym rat, and is ring-smart, but how would he react to a loss? None of us know, so, it's all speculation.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
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Unknowndonor
OK. The Wiz- I'd like to see Floyd fight Tony, because it would be a shutout. Tony has no chance, besides the general "punchers chance". And unbiased people know this man. Then all the fuss about a match that will be lopsided will go away.
DaxxKhan- Cotto beat an aging Mosely who lost the second Oscar fight, and 2 against Forrest, and 2 against Winky. Quintana? U really believe he could beat Floyd? Judah, got beat by floyd, and everyone else that Cotto has fought Floyd would have demolished. So, with that being said, who has fought better, that is around Floyd's weight? You discard Oscar, but not Mosely? WTF? Mosely has only beaten chumps too. What, Mosely beat Vargas, WHO LOST TO MAYORGA, WHO LOST TO OSCAR? That doesnt make much sense.
In your defense, I agree with you that Floyd can't walk on water, and I would personally like to punch him in the face sometimes, but not all Floyd fans r just your basic nut-huggers. Now, with that being said, Robinson-Floyd? Although I'd root for my boy, Ray would probably win the first one on points. Considering that Floyd is one of the best adjusters, I'd give him a chance in tha rematch, because he's a gym rat, and is ring-smart, but how would he react to a loss? None of us know, so, it's all speculation.
We can differ on who wins these fights, but at least let's see them happen. Not these battles between ODL and Hatton again. If he could win a shutout Tony, then he should of fought him for $8 mil (not to mention his buyout of his Top Rank contract) and made some easy money.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
No because Mayweather made the exact same amount of money facing Baldomir who was the welterweight champion everyone was complaining he didn't fight when he faced Judah. After Baldomir who did Mayweather fight? Oscar De La Hoya... for how much? 20+ million dollars? So becoming a mainstream celebrity, and actually putting boxing to some extent back on the mainstream or fight a guy who must people would come to realize was way overrated. Fighting Oscar twice is better for Mayweather's legacy than facing Margarito will ever be... same with fighting Hatton or Cotto. When people look back on Mayweather they won't care that he won 120-108 against a guy who was 30something-5, they will care about him beating the big name opponents and the undefeated opponents, like Corrales, Hatton, and soon enough Cotto.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
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No because Mayweather made the exact same amount of money facing Baldomir who was the welterweight champion everyone was complaining he didn't fight when he faced Judah. After Baldomir who did Mayweather fight? Oscar De La Hoya... for how much? 20+ million dollars? So becoming a mainstream celebrity, and actually putting boxing to some extent back on the mainstream or fight a guy who must people would come to realize was way overrated. Fighting Oscar twice is better for Mayweather's legacy than facing Margarito will ever be... same with fighting Hatton or Cotto. When people look back on Mayweather they won't care that he won 120-108 against a guy who was 30something-5, they will care about him beating the big name opponents and the undefeated opponents, like Corrales, Hatton, and soon enough Cotto.
My point is why not fight Margarito in July or Aug of that year, since all you Mayweather fans think it would be a 12 round sparring session? The so called greatest fighter everyone's seen should be able to fight more than twice in a year.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
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the wiz
The so called greatest fighter everyone's seen should be able to fight more than twice in a year.
Most top fighters of the modern era have only fought about twice a year once they reached the age of ~28-29 or so.
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Re: Margarito wouldn't be able to land a goddamn thing on Mayweather
I agree with most of what Taeth wrote. However, there is no way that Floyd can physically stop Margarito from coming forward. And it's not like Floyd dances around the ring. He likes to hang on the ropes and dodge punches as opposed to "float like a butterfly." Floyd will NOT KO Margarito-NEVER!! Margarito will test Floyd's stamina (not to say Floyd doesn't have good stamina). Margarito is physically superior to ANYONE Floyd has ever fought. I believe Margarito has a better chance than Hatton or Baldomir ever had. Still, I am not saying Margarito will win. Just that it will be a PHYSICAL test, the likes of which Floyd has NEVER experienced.