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Warren offers Haye skelton bout
Promoter Frank Warren has offered David Haye a whopping £600,000 payday to fight Commonwealth Heavyweight Champion Matt Skelton in the Autumn. Haye, the WBO/WBC/WBA Cruiserweight Champion, now intends to campaign in the heavyweight division and is looking at Hasim Rahman as his next opponent. Skelton took WBA World Champion Ruslan Chagaev the distance in January and is ranked above Rahman in the independent rankings..
But Warren believes that Haye should first prove himself to be the best in Britain by taking on Skelton, the number one ranked heavyweight in the country, before he looks overseas.
He said: "This is a massive payday for Haye and a great opportunity to see if he is the real deal in the heavyweight division that he tells us he is. Skelton is the best in Britain and pushed Chagaev all the way in their world title fight. If Haye is serious about the heavyweight division he should fight Skelton first."
Haye has already been knocked out by a 40-year-old in Carl Thompson and Skelton, who hits the big 4-0 shortly, is really up for the job.
Skelton said: "I want the fight big time. It's a massive clash between Britain's biggest men. Haye wants to prove himself as a heavyweight so he should face the best and that's me. I know that I've got the power to knock him out."
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If im not wrong this means peter-harrison is virtually a done deal???
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haye shouldnt take this fight skelton is impossible to look good against and will look for a wrestling match more than a proper fight , and doesnt warren get it haye is better than any of his boys skelton,harrison,enzo mac the lot !
i dont know if that peter fight at the o2 is going to come to anything now just warrens idle rubbish he likes to spout every now and then
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Thought Haye made just under £1 million for Enzo?
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he probably did warrens an absolute tool hell make out that its a golden oppurtunity for haye when its no such thing
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So I guess this means Harrison fights Peters, if it isn't a load of crap like hitman says. I think if the harrison that messed Danny williams up in 3 rounds turns up he stands a good chance.
Anyway, I think Haye will KO skelton, but it'll be boring to watch up untill the KO, as is the case with all of skeltons fights.
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So I guess this means Harrison fights Peters, if it isn't a load of crap like hitman says. I think if the harrison that messed Danny williams up in 3 rounds turns up he stands a good chance.
Anyway, I think Haye will KO skelton, but it'll be boring to watch up untill the KO, as is the case with all of skeltons fights.
skelton will give haye way more problems than he actually needs at this stage.
not only is he very good at making his opponent look ordinary he is actually a half decent grappler who knows how to grind out a result.
My fear is if showtime/HBO for some reason decide to take this fight on and haye goes chasing a spectacular knockout which he wont get!!
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Dont know why but this makes sense to me. Matt skelton...despite being unbrearable to watch.He does know how to win a fight, and is probably the best in britian, mightaswell start small and move up.
On the other hand if hasim rahman is on cards, go for broke.
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This fight would be a step backwards he needs a well known name Hasim Rahman is said to be Hayes choice that sounds a better fight to me.I think Warren is just bitter and wanting one of his men to beat Haye because Haye smashed up his boy Enzo
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I know people may laugh at this but i give Skelton reasonable chance in this one, Haye's stamina has never been that good, so if Skelton can apply his rough tough style on Haye to good effect he has a chance to wear him down in the 2nd half of the fight and could stop him. Plus Skelton has always shown a pretty good chin so he could out last the early onslaught smothering Haye etc.
PS how the hell did that smiley face get above my post i didn't put it there huh ??
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I know people may laugh at this but i give Skelton reasonable chance in this one, Haye's stamina has never been that good, so if Skelton can apply his rough tough style on Haye to good effect he has a chance to wear him down in the nd half of the fight and could stop him. Plus Skelton has always shown a pretty good chin so he could out last the early onslaught smothering Haye etc.
Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
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I know people may laugh at this but i give Skelton reasonable chance in this one, Haye's stamina has never been that good, so if Skelton can apply his rough tough style on Haye to good effect he has a chance to wear him down in the nd half of the fight and could stop him. Plus Skelton has always shown a pretty good chin so he could out last the early onslaught smothering Haye etc.
Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
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I know people may laugh at this but i give Skelton reasonable chance in this one, Haye's stamina has never been that good, so if Skelton can apply his rough tough style on Haye to good effect he has a chance to wear him down in the nd half of the fight and could stop him. Plus Skelton has always shown a pretty good chin so he could out last the early onslaught smothering Haye etc.
Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
He didn't wear down Mormeck or Fragomeni?
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ICB
I know people may laugh at this but i give Skelton reasonable chance in this one, Haye's stamina has never been that good, so if Skelton can apply his rough tough style on Haye to good effect he has a chance to wear him down in the nd half of the fight and could stop him. Plus Skelton has always shown a pretty good chin so he could out last the early onslaught smothering Haye etc.
Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
As said the reasons for haye not to take this on are endless, he would now be much better off relocating to america and working his way up through the ranks there rather than fight a couple of bums over here and then get a world title shot cast upon him.
America will love haye that im sure of. cocky, arrogant and packs a hell of a punch.
Whats the point in seeing him beat on ordinary british heavyweights when he can be over in america doing the ground work towards a mega fight with klitschko!!
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iT WOULD BE INTERESTING FROM A FANS POINT OF VIEW.
Haye could well blow Skelton away , or he may be worn down by Skeltons brawling tactics as ICE says.
Personally i think Skelton is an average fighter , but he holds a ranking which is a good reason to take the fight for Haye.
Id go for a KO win inside 6 for Haye.
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Looks like Haye has signed with Golden Boy and could be fighting Rahman next.
Boxing News : David Haye Signs With Golden Boy, Hasim Rahman Next?
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Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
As said the reasons for haye not to take this on are endless, he would now be much better off relocating to america and working his way up through the ranks there rather than fight a couple of bums over here and then get a world title shot cast upon him.
America will love haye that im sure of. cocky, arrogant and packs a hell of a punch.
Whats the point in seeing him beat on ordinary british heavyweights when he can be over in america doing the ground work towards a mega fight with klitschko!!
He doesn't have to got to America.
The fights can be put on early-hours to suit American TV.
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Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
As said the reasons for haye not to take this on are endless, he would now be much better off relocating to america and working his way up through the ranks there rather than fight a couple of bums over here and then get a world title shot cast upon him.
America will love haye that im sure of. cocky, arrogant and packs a hell of a punch.
Whats the point in seeing him beat on ordinary british heavyweights when he can be over in america doing the ground work towards a mega fight with klitschko!!
He doesn't have to got to America.
The fights can be put on early-hours to suit American TV.
I very much doubt either HBO/Showtime will have much interest in haye-skelton fighting in britain possibly for the commonwealth title.
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why would david haye be interested in the commonwealth title anyway
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As said the reasons for haye not to take this on are endless, he would now be much better off relocating to america and working his way up through the ranks there rather than fight a couple of bums over here and then get a world title shot cast upon him.
America will love haye that im sure of. cocky, arrogant and packs a hell of a punch.
Whats the point in seeing him beat on ordinary british heavyweights when he can be over in america doing the ground work towards a mega fight with klitschko!!
He doesn't have to got to America.
The fights can be put on early-hours to suit American TV.
I very much doubt either HBO/Showtime will have much interest in haye-skelton fighting in britain possibly for the commonwealth title.
Exactly ;)
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"And he wouldn't want to get in the way of the fantastic trilogy that's been served up to the British public with Williams, Skelton and Harrison."
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please tell me thats tongue in cheek and im not very good at reading between the lines!!
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Sounds like it Hatton, reading between the lines I think he's saying "Their nobodies compared to me".
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Sounds like it Hatton, reading between the lines I think he's saying "Their nobodies compared to me".
thank god for that
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Was pondering whether to get hayemaker sectioned for a brief moment back there!!
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Skelton is pretty one dimensional IMO, we seen him box a little against Williams 2 but apart from that fight he is just a brawler, I fuly expect Haye to wear Skelton down for a late stoppage.
Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
He didn't wear down Mormeck or Fragomeni?
No he didn't wear down Mormeck he caught Mormeck with one shot that turned out his lights, wouldn't say he wore down Mormeck but Mormeck's stamina is also suspect. He did wear out Fragomeni but lets remember Skelton's style is made to wear opponents down in 2nd half of the fight, and because Skelton is much bigger physically it takes a lot of steam out of you when you have a big physcial boxer like Skelton leaning on you. Im not saying Haye can't wear down opponents but that isn't really his style he looks for one big shot to KO his opponents like he has done in majority of his fights. Like i said it will be interesting to see how Haye will cope should Skelton get Haye past the 6th round.
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you have to think that haye's speed and power will be to much for skelton, matts never had much grace, he's looked half decent at domestic level in there with an overweight williams, flabby john mcdermont, and stunk the place out with sprott........... haye would be nothing more then a good payday for him, hayes to good, skelton would get beat up
i've heard so much garbage from warren over the years, so many big fights that were soppused done only to never happen................. if harrison gets the shot against peter its a disgrace
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Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
He didn't wear down Mormeck or Fragomeni?
No he didn't wear down Mormeck he caught Mormeck with one shot that turned out his lights, wouldn't say he wore down Mormeck but Mormeck's stamina is also suspect. He did wear out Fragomeni but lets remember Skelton's style is made to wear opponents down in 2nd half of the fight, and because Skelton is much bigger physically it takes a lot of steam out of you when you have a big physcial boxer like Skelton leaning on you. Im not saying Haye can't wear down opponents but that isn't really his style he looks for one big shot to KO his opponents like he has done in majority of his fights. Like i said it will be interesting to see how Haye will cope should Skelton get Haye past the 6th round.
The end was sudden but he spent 7 rounds smashing Mormeck with heavy shots, especailly to the body, which must have been beneficial to the finishing blows.. so I would class it as wearing him down ;)
As for Skelton - I see your point, but Haye should (would) have too much skill and speed.
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Thought Haye made just under £1 million for Enzo?
Why cuz Warren said so?
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Skelton would be a decent fight for an opener, he could prove a point by beating him more comprehensively than Chagaev. Skelton doesn't really have the power or speed to bother Haye but you might get a good few rounds out of him, he's certainly as credible an opponent as Rahman is at the moment.
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I would have loved to have seen Matt Skelton outbox and outwork David Haye.
Rahman sadly is virtually done these days, fat, slow and lethargic. Even Zuri Lawrence almost took him. Still he has made a habit of winning when not expected to whilst losing when expected to win.
Who knows, if he lands, maybe he could spark Haye, surely nobody will be cheering more wildly than myself for that to happen.
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Thought Haye made just under £1 million for Enzo?
Why cuz Warren said so?
Nope. Don't ever remember Warren saying so. Might have?
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Haye isn't the type of fighter that wears fighters down for the simple reason his stamina just isn't that good. Skelton's style is built on wearing fighters down to take over in the 2nd half. I would like to see how Haye would cope with the rough style of Skelton should Skelton get him past 6th round.
He didn't wear down Mormeck or Fragomeni?
No he didn't wear down Mormeck he caught Mormeck with one shot that turned out his lights, wouldn't say he wore down Mormeck but Mormeck's stamina is also suspect. He did wear out Fragomeni but lets remember Skelton's style is made to wear opponents down in 2nd half of the fight, and because Skelton is much bigger physically it takes a lot of steam out of you when you have a big physcial boxer like Skelton leaning on you. Im not saying Haye can't wear down opponents but that isn't really his style he looks for one big shot to KO his opponents like he has done in majority of his fights. Like i said it will be interesting to see how Haye will cope should Skelton get Haye past the 6th round.
I disagree that Skeltons style is made to wear his opponents out in the 2nd half of the fight. Look at the Chagaev fight..in the second half of the fight, Skelton he was done. He had nothing on his punches and was just leaning all over Chagaev. I agree that if he leans on Haye it will take a lot out of him but when Skelton leans too much it is because he is tired and fucked. Definitely no chance of a knockout from Skelton in my eyes..Haye's chin might be suspect but he won't get knocked out by Skelton. Matt's a big boy but doesn't have much power or technique..just a lot of weight behind him. Haye will have too much class and know what to do with him.
