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Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
Warren ever have a grip ??????????
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
This is the man that held back calzaghe from going to america until he was 37 yet chose to stick frank bruno in the ring with mike tyson for a second time.
Of course he aint all the ticket!!!
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
To be fair he's given us some memorable nights over the last 25 years so you can't knock him for that and he's pretty much single handedly RUN the UK scene for a similar time if you look at the facts.
Sorry but you can't take that away from him:)
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
Ever since he lost Hatton!
Hatton and Haye are both English and probably a promoters wet dream. Warren doesn't have either. That to me says a lot.
Consider Calslappy is on his way soon, that only leaves Kahn, who imo has his work cut out to win a title at 135.
Suppose there's always Matt Skelton :D
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
And Warrens contract with Khan runs out after the Gomez fight:-X
If he doesn't deliver Amir a title shot then he'll jump ship imo;)
GOLDEN BOY anyone;D
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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smashup
And Warrens contract with Khan runs out after the Gomez fight:-X
If he doesn't deliver Amir a title shot then he'll jump ship imo;)
GOLDEN BOY anyone;D
goldenboy would be his american promotional team. He`ll still need a warren/hearns/maloney etc to promote his contests over here!!
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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hattonthehammer
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smashup
And Warrens contract with Khan runs out after the Gomez fight:-X
If he doesn't deliver Amir a title shot then he'll jump ship imo;)
GOLDEN BOY anyone;D
goldenboy would be his american promotional team. He`ll still need a warren/hearns/maloney etc to promote his contests over here!!
Not if he does a Haye ;)
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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Fenster
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hattonthehammer
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smashup
And Warrens contract with Khan runs out after the Gomez fight:-X
If he doesn't deliver Amir a title shot then he'll jump ship imo;)
GOLDEN BOY anyone;D
goldenboy would be his american promotional team. He`ll still need a warren/hearns/maloney etc to promote his contests over here!!
Not if he does a Haye ;)
I think he'd benefit greatly by going across the pond. Better training, better sparring, better opposition etc...
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
Exactly,i don't see the need for Amir to be UK based at all anymore when everything he needs ie fights are stateside!!
He should swerve Warren after the Gomez fight and go for his dream imo.
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Problem is, if Khan hadn't been with Warren he'd probably already have been knocked unconcious by now.. and be looking for a Warren-type to help him on the comeback trail ;)
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smashup
Exactly,i don't see the need for Amir to be UK based at all anymore when everything he needs ie fights are stateside!!
He should swerve Warren after the Gomez fight and go for his dream imo.
I actually can't even believe he's fighting Gomez. Am i the only one who see's the risk and no reward problem with this fight?
Gomez is unpredictable. I wouldn't put it past him to pull something spectacular out of his washed up arse.
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ono
Ever since he lost Hatton!
Hatton and Haye are both English and probably a promoters wet dream. Warren doesn't have either. That to me says a lot.
Consider Calslappy is on his way soon, that only leaves Kahn, who imo has his work cut out to win a title at 135.
Suppose there's always Matt Skelton :D
Mark my words not signing Haye will end up being a good thing For Frank Warren.
He's going to bust spectacularly. If he's signed a 6 fight deal with GBP I predict he gets sparked in at least 3 of those fights.
He doesn't have a chin, he doesn't have stamina, and he's got an ego that makes him think he's better than he is and can hang with guys he really shouldn't be in the ring with.
It will end in tragedy for Haye, but jubilation for me.
Right now I'm an honourary 'Rock' fan and can't wait for Hasim to pull out the shock.
Skelton would put a beat down on Haye.
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
Khan shouldn't be with Warren IMO, he's already getting Khan a bad name by getting him worthless opponents when Khan can clearly do better.
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ono
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smashup
Exactly,i don't see the need for Amir to be UK based at all anymore when everything he needs ie fights are stateside!!
He should swerve Warren after the Gomez fight and go for his dream imo.
I actually can't even believe he's fighting Gomez. Am i the only one who see's the risk and no reward problem with this fight?
Gomez is unpredictable. I wouldn't put it past him to pull something spectacular out of his washed up arse.
The very reason you believe Gomez has a chance is why they can sell the fight.
Even though people KNOW he's SHOT TO BITS he is unpredictable enough to make it watchable.
The reality is - Khan 1st round KO ;)
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
It all depends on how serious other people are about competing with Frank. Haye and Hatton's promotional outfits are one-man operations designed to make as much money as possible from existing hot commodities. Expanding from promoting themselves to other people is where it starts to get tricky, expensive too. Haye's outfit will probably go the way of Lion Promotions. The question is whether Hatton will feel like putting the effort in when he retires, and it's a full-time job, or whether he'll keep his fifty million plus in the bank.
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Kirkland Laing
It all depends on how serious other people are about competing with Frank. Haye and Hatton's promotional outfits are one-man operations designed to make as much money as possible from existing hot commodities. Expanding from promoting themselves to other people is where it starts to get tricky, expensive too. Haye's outfit will probably go the way of Lion Promotions. The question is whether Hatton will feel like putting the effort in when he retires, and it's a full-time job, or whether he'll keep his fifty million plus in the bank.
lennox retired with a small fortune for him to enjoy with his girlfriend/boyfriend(lets not start that again) yet found himself regularly commentating in the states and helping to promote various boxing events.
Does he need the money....of course not, the guy is a multi millionaire that gets paid peanuts for these sort of outings.
But its the love of the sport and the grip it has on you that keeps bringing lennox back.
Sadly as in the case of tyson, holyfield that grip can often have its downsides :-X
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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hattonthehammer
This is the man that held back calzaghe from going to america until he was 37 yet chose to stick frank bruno in the ring with mike tyson for a second time.
Of course he aint all the ticket!!!
In the animal world thats known as milking a cow and taking a lamb to the slaughter ;D
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can't say i feel sorry for him..............yes he's run the british boxing scene for years, yes he's put on some cracking nights of boxing.........but he's always been out to put one over boxing fans, thing of all the cannon fodder he's fed calzaghe, and told us there world class only to be 1 dimentional punch bags, he was heading to do the same with hatton but ricky jumped ship before warren got his poison in him........... he now does the same with khan, having him fight guys that are way to small, and cant punch...as a result khan thinks he's the best thing since ali, he'll get nailed the first true top fighter he meets.. the simple fact is boxer know if there with warren they'll be fighting at piss poor level, earning warren good money and never get the respect they crave............... like calzaghe.......... good fighters want to hit the big stage, hattons fights have been in vegas where he's now a big name............... he earned as much in the mayweather fight as calzaghes earned in his whole carreer and hattons respected, a big name, and heading for more big bouts... if he stayed with warren he would have continued selling out in mancester fighting john from down the road
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
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ono
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smashup
Exactly,i don't see the need for Amir to be UK based at all anymore when everything he needs ie fights are stateside!!
He should swerve Warren after the Gomez fight and go for his dream imo.
I actually can't even believe he's fighting Gomez. Am i the only one who see's the risk and no reward problem with this fight?
Gomez is unpredictable. I wouldn't put it past him to pull something spectacular out of his washed up arse.
The Gomez that beat Arthur is gone. This current one is done. Con will stop him early. And than we'll here more garbage on how Con is the future. :lolhaha:
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Violent Demise
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ono
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smashup
Exactly,i don't see the need for Amir to be UK based at all anymore when everything he needs ie fights are stateside!!
He should swerve Warren after the Gomez fight and go for his dream imo.
I actually can't even believe he's fighting Gomez. Am i the only one who see's the risk and no reward problem with this fight?
Gomez is unpredictable. I wouldn't put it past him to pull something spectacular out of his washed up arse.
The Gomez that beat Arthur is gone. This current one is done. Con will stop him early. And than we'll here more garbage on how Con is the future. :lolhaha:
Probably so.
Anyways i think i would laugh if he got lucky.
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NUCLEAR BULL
can't say i feel sorry for him..............yes he's run the british boxing scene for years, yes he's put on some cracking nights of boxing.........but he's always been out to put one over boxing fans, thing of all the cannon fodder he's fed calzaghe, and told us there world class only to be 1 dimentional punch bags, he was heading to do the same with hatton but ricky jumped ship before warren got his poison in him........... he now does the same with khan, having him fight guys that are way to small, and cant punch...as a result khan thinks he's the best thing since ali, he'll get nailed the first true top fighter he meets.. the simple fact is boxer know if there with warren they'll be fighting at piss poor level, earning warren good money and never get the respect they crave............... like calzaghe.......... good fighters want to hit the big stage, hattons fights have been in vegas where he's now a big name............... he earned as much in the mayweather fight as calzaghes earned in his whole carreer and hattons respected, a big name, and heading for more big bouts... if he stayed with warren he would have continued selling out in mancester fighting john from down the road
Steady now, Hatton don't like fighting his fellow countrymen.. especially if they call him names. ;)
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Re: Is Frank Warren losing his grip? good read!
It was a good read and an interesting premise. But what about the current crop of British amateurs? Am I right in saying that some of those look _pretty_ good indeed? Frankie Gavin?
Olympics are coming up, and after that Warren just might have one or two new cash cows stepping up to the plate in two-three years. Or?