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Boxers who retired undefeated but were not world champs
I know theres the obvious ones like Lazlo Papp (Government prevented him boxing for world title), Horace Notice (Detached Retina), Mickey Rourke (Fought bums)
then theres ones like Conrad Williams who retired with a 12.0 record Conrad Williams
I'd like to compile a list of boxers who retired unbeaten and find out the reasons why.
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File this under the "only fought bums" category
Damon Feldman
BoxRec Boxing Records
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Mark TKO
did Terry Marsh lose ??
He held a world title the IBF version i think.
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Didn't Tony Ayala Jnr 'retire' unbeaten when he was jailed for rape?
I think he came back on his release when he was about 40 and fought someone to a draw........ but I stand to be corrected?
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Ike Ibeabuchi
George Kandelaki
Lester Jacobs
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ICB
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Mark TKO
did Terry Marsh lose ??
He held a world title the IBF version i think.
Terry Marsh drew 1 fight and won the rest , he also held the IBF LWW title made a defence and retired unbeaten. ( the draw was with LLoyd Christie , the brother of Errol Christie ).
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Pretty hard one. You can find a ton of guys with like 2-0 or 3-0 records at boxrec but actual careers takes a bit of thinking. The ones that come to mind most have already been said.
First name I thought of was Ike Ibeabuchi
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I got a question see what people say...
Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?
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Fenster
Ike Ibeabuchi
Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.
I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.
How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.
Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.
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X
Didn't Tony Ayala Jnr 'retire' unbeaten when he was jailed for rape?
I think he came back on his release when he was about 40 and fought someone to a draw........ but I stand to be corrected?
He lost to yori boy campas
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CutMeMick
I got a question see what people say...
Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?
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Fenster
Ike Ibeabuchi
Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.
I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.
How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.
Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.
Dutch boy beat Hugo Rafael Soto who four fights later won the WBA flyweight title.
He also beat Cruz Carbajal who went on to win the WBO Bantamweight title. Not only that he ko’d him in four rounds one of only 3 boxers who stopped him in his 15 losses.
I think that would make him world class.
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SEANIE
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Didn't Tony Ayala Jnr 'retire' unbeaten when he was jailed for rape?
I think he came back on his release when he was about 40 and fought someone to a draw........ but I stand to be corrected?
He lost to yori boy campas
Oh, thanks ... was that after he came out of prison?
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Good call on Mesi,he's probably going to retire without a shot
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Originally Posted by
CutMeMick
I got a question see what people say...
Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Ike Ibeabuchi
Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.
I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.
How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.
Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that
he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.
Niiice Mick.That was Jemal Hinton I believe.The superstar that never was.Very low key guy with a solid fluid style from what I saw,Almost a "Cutie" with speed & a mean streak.Very solid Amateur with about 100 wins but was denied an olympic bid after losing to Kennedy McKinney in the finals in 88' partially due to a injured Shoulder ??Manny was soooo big on Hinton,Proclaimed him Future champ every chance he had but may have been handling way to many other top guys at time...whats new Lol.Hinton just seemed to go on the back burner at times,Relationship became a bit contentious.I think he was ranked in all major organizations when he suddenly retired...what might have been???
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X
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SEANIE
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X
Didn't Tony Ayala Jnr 'retire' unbeaten when he was jailed for rape?
I think he came back on his release when he was about 40 and fought someone to a draw........ but I stand to be corrected?
He lost to yori boy campas
Oh, thanks ... was that after he came out of prison?
Yeah a few fights into his comeback Ayala also lost his last fight.
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Do not know if it qualifies as actual retirment but Ricky Womack was a story in harsh realism and death.He had some gritty Amatuer scraps with Holyfield,beat him around the ring in one.Turned professional ,then Did some crimes and went into Prison undefeated.......Got out 15 years later and railed off a few more wins in comeback in 01'(?)...............and then comitted suicide.He defeated himself......Sad S!!! all around.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Do not know if it qualifies as actual retirment but Ricky Womack was a story in harsh realism and death.He had some gritty Amatuer scraps with Holyfield,beat him around the ring in one.Turned professional ,then Did some crimes and went into Prison undefeated.......Got out 15 years later and railed off a few more wins in comeback in 01'(?)...............and then comitted suicide.He defeated himself......Sad S!!! all around.
Think Ricky robbed a bank.
He had a great careeer in front of him and threw it away.
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I think Willie D from the Geto Boys retired undefeated. He only had like 4 matches or something like that and the last guy fought him to a draw, I think.
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I think this may have been said a while back but I'm to lazy to look...
Micky Rourke
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This guy Tony Mosco......I actually saw this live and was rolling on the ground...his opponent gives "Mullet Man" a run for his money lol,looks like a seizure victim :fight:.I think Lou Ferrigno look-a-like Mosco retired after 5 wins ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvX4LQKVnKk
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
This guy Tony Mosco......I actually saw this live and was rolling on the ground...his opponent gives "Mullet Man" a run for his money lol,looks like a seizure victim :fight:.I think Lou Ferrigno look-a-like Mosco retired after 5 wins ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvX4LQKVnKk
ROFL!!