Boxers who retired undefeated but were not world champs

[CutMeMick]

I got a question see what people say...

Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?

Ike Ibeabuchi

Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.


I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.

How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.

Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.

[SEANIE]

I got a question see what people say...

Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?

Ike Ibeabuchi

Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.


I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.

How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.

Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.

Dutch boy beat Hugo Rafael Soto who four fights later won the WBA flyweight title.

He also beat Cruz Carbajal who went on to win the WBO Bantamweight title. Not only that he ko’d him in four rounds one of only 3 boxers who stopped him in his 15 losses.

I think that would make him world class.

[Spicoli]

I got a question see what people say...

Does wining a title necessairly make you World Class?
If so does that mean Jorge Vaca, Carlos Maussa, Istvan Kovacs are world class?

Ike Ibeabuchi

Great call on Ike. It was the 1st name that came to mind.


I don't think he's officially retired but Joe Mesi might be one we can add pretty soon.

How about that one Thai boxer Dutch Boy Gym he retired undefeated and I certainly wouldn't call him world class.

Anyone remember this prospect from the late 80's early 90's who was being talked about I think the kid was from Michingan I just remembered him because I remembering reading that he decided to retire because of his religion or something like. He was undefeated.

Niiice Mick.That was Jemal Hinton I believe.The superstar that never was.Very low key guy with a solid fluid style from what I saw,Almost a "Cutie" with speed & a mean streak.Very solid Amateur with about 100 wins but was denied an olympic bid after losing to Kennedy McKinney in the finals in 88' partially due to a injured Shoulder ??Manny was soooo big on Hinton,Proclaimed him Future champ every chance he had but may have been handling way to many other top guys at time...whats new Lol.Hinton just seemed to go on the back burner at times,Relationship became a bit contentious.I think he was ranked in all major organizations when he suddenly retired...what might have been

[Spicoli]

Do not know if it qualifies as actual retirment but Ricky Womack was a story in harsh realism and death.He had some gritty Amatuer scraps with Holyfield,beat him around the ring in one.Turned professional ,then Did some crimes and went into Prison undefeated.......Got out 15 years later and railed off a few more wins in comeback in 01'(?)...............and then comitted suicide.He defeated himself......Sad S!!! all around.

[SEANIE]

Do not know if it qualifies as actual retirment but Ricky Womack was a story in harsh realism and death.He had some gritty Amatuer scraps with Holyfield,beat him around the ring in one.Turned professional ,then Did some crimes and went into Prison undefeated.......Got out 15 years later and railed off a few more wins in comeback in 01'(?)...............and then comitted suicide.He defeated himself......Sad S!!! all around.

Think Ricky robbed a bank.

He had a great careeer in front of him and threw it away.