Favourite and Least Favourite American fighters and why....

As Bilbo did a UK one I felt it was necessary to do a US one ;)

My Favs:

Kelly Pavlik:

Exciting and brings light back to the MW divsion, KO'd Jermain Taylor, has awesome power, doesn't bullshit.

Timothy Bradley:

For shutting up and owning Junior Witter, thanks :D

Least Favs.

Floyd Mayweather:

KO'd Ricky Hatton, Blatantly ducking Miguel Cotto, loud mouth bullshitter who is only after money and not securing a legacy.

Paulie Malignaggi:

Thinks boxing is a fashion game with his stupid haircuts. Talks shit, a loudmouth and cocky. Barely beat Ngoudjo and N'Dou and yet thinks he's #1 at 140.

Sergio Mora:

What a cock, I hope Forrest knocks him the fuck out, got a gift against Manfredo in their 2nd fight, bums SRL, the guy loves himself and yet he's just a "Contender" :lolhaha:

Thing is about Paulie, he may have many gay things about him but he still gets in that ring and fights like the rest of them , particulary in the Cotto fight.

Thats why i ignore all that stuff and put it down to attempted showmanship, I like the guy.

Fav American fighter has to be Oscar Dela Hoya. He just all round rules.
Love the way he fights the way he acts and beleive everyword that comes out of his mouth.

Most dis-liked is B-Hop, Wich is strange because before the Calzaghe fight i actually really liked him, but the build up and the fight itself really turned me against him. Got me up for the fight more wich i suppose was the desired effect...And like he gives a fuck I dont like him.

I suppose that I had better pick CURRENT fighters in case some random pedant calls me out (;))

Least favourite has to be Bernard Hopkins - I must say that I have always thought he's a bit of a survivalist scuffler who was lucky there were no good middleweights around when he was the titlist, plus he has the grace and charm of a valentine card from Saddam Hussein.

Favourite at the moment is Floyd Mayweather, because I do think he is going to be an all-time great (yet, oddly, he too has the grace and charm of a valentine card from Saddam Hussein)

Pavlik is fun to watch, but I nned to see a bit more of him before I decide whether he is too one-dimensional (or if that one-dimension is not enough!)

De la Hoya - a class act, fought everyone, a real live fighter with a brain. I like him.

I enjoyed watching Juan Diaz, but his lack of a big punch caought up with him .... always in good fights though.

I'm interested to see what happens to Andre Berto as well, once he gets in the ring with a decent and dangerous opponent (hopefully this year or early 2009?)

Isn't it amazing how few Americans are up there in the sport these days??

De La Hoya, Holyfield all right someone a little younger I like well guess who Chazz Witherspoon.

Malignaggi is a retard,Mayweather a little bit worse,I am starting not to like Haye also he talks way too much shit lately.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by The Fightfan

De La Hoya, Holyfield all right someone a little younger I like well guess who Chazz Witherspoon.

Malignaggi is a retard,Mayweather a little bit worse,I am starting not to like Haye also he talks way too much shit lately.

---

;D

Least favorite:

Tye Fields; a crime to even think he is a real fighter. Just a big, dumb Baby Huey who fights like he graduated from the Special Olympics with honors.

Sergio Mora; funny I used to like this kat, but where is he at? What is he doing? Not much really. And I hate those temper tantrums and running out of the ring.

Peter Manfredo; nuff' said.


Favorite:

Kelly Pavlik; just get an old school feeling watching him. One of those guys who has quite a few flaws, but comes to fight, has a ton of heart and just works every second of every round.

Juan Diaz; a Texas boy like myself who I love to watch fight. Was just about crushed when he lost to Campbell, but look forward to seeing how he comes back. Unbelievable work rate and really just wears people down through attrition and punch output.

The Peterson brothers; got alot of potential, though that bird chirping that one of them does{I always forget which one it is} annoys me to no end. Very solid fighters IMO.

James Kirkland; this kid comes to put a hurt on people. I like what I've seen so far; and love Anne Wolfe being in his corner.

Favorites

Kelly Pavlik, he's just exciting to watch.

Nate Campbell, his recent trash talk on the system and what he has done in the ring has made me a fan.

Least favorites

Bernard Hopkins, just a dirty fighter, I can appreciate what he has done in the ring, but I can't stand how dirty of a fighter he is.

Cory Spinks, talks trash like he' s king kong but he ends up like tinkerbell.

Favourites:

Shane Mosley - all round great bloke
kelly pavlik - awesome straight punching ability
ODLH - Guy is an absoloute legend
Andre Berto - the future dominance of world boxing

Least favourite:

Hasim Rahman - mouthy git that never knows when to zip it
Bernard Hopkins - racist moron
Demarcus Corley - arrogant and cant back it up
John Ruiz - boooring

Least favorite is BHOP and Tarver.

Favorites

Evander Holyfield- My alltime favorite fighter, heart, guts, warrior and inspiration

Jeff Lacy- been a fan from the get go, great heart, chin and will, exciting all action fighter and a charasmatic all around good ambassador for the sport

Floyd Mayweather- The crem dela crem, this generations best fighter, 1st ballot hall of famer and destined to be mentioned with the likes of Robinson, Ali, Pep and Greb

Roy Jones Jr- fuk the haters he still has plenty in the tank, has reinvented his style and defense as well as restoring lost confidence, as much as I like Calzaghe, Jones will defeat him if they fight

Shane Mosely-Great fighter, great guy dazzleing in every sense of the word

James Toney- Throw back one of the best fighters of the last 20 years multi division champion and one of the tougest bastards to lace them up

Kelly Pavlik-epitomises everything you want out of an explosive fighter

Glen Johnson- hardnosed throw back and all around bad ass fighter who unfortunately gotten screwed to many times

Winky Wright- Great defense and a old school fighter

Andre Berto- been following him for over a year and believe he is the heir apparent in 2 years time when Floyd hangs them up, sensational offense and punch selection with a chin.... Needs to improve his defense or will be exposed quick

Least

Zab Judah- Piece of dried up dogshit

Hopkins- Cheater and an ahole

Malignaggi :homo2:

Allan Green- Loud mouthed idiot who layed an egg on the mainstage and got owned by Miranda

Thats all I can think of for now

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Unknowndonor

Least favorite is BHOP and Tarver.

---

How could I forget him :rolleyes: The guy has no fans LOL.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Poom

Thing is about Paulie, he may have many gay things about him but he still gets in that ring and fights like the rest of them , particulary in the Cotto fight.

Thats why i ignore all that stuff and put it down to attempted showmanship, I like the guy.

---

You have a pretty good point there. Hair extensions or no hair extensions I would not want to fight him in a boxing ring.

Here is my list for what it is worth.

Favorites.

Miguel Cotto- I don't think there has been a fighter in the welterweight division since Tommy Hearns that brings that much of an aura of genuine excitement. I say that in the terms of knockouts. It is like everyone waits on the edge of their seats for the stoppage.

Vernon Forrest- I wish he had never had to take those two years off for the shoulder injury. Vernon would have been mentioned with the likes of Felix Trinidad, Shane Mosley and Oscar De La Hoya.

Roy Jones- I know he is nowhere near the Roy Jones of old but in his day the man was flawless. not in a technically sound way but in a style no one but he could be successful at. Today I like him as an announcer and the fact he has become honest about things. Like the fact he did not go to the UK and fight Joe Calzaghe purposely.

Least Favorite.

Bernard Hopkins- Great fighter but always complaining about the respect he supposedly does not get and how great he is. If maybe he put on an exciting bout now and again he would avoid the flack.

Floyd Mayweather JR- He is great in the ring but never shuts up outside of it.

Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

---

Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

---

Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

---

Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Fave
Hopkins-overcame adversity,went from a slugger to a technician
Ann Wolfe-One punch can make you say nighty night
Valerie Mahfood-Pit bull of a fighter,and a very nice person to boot

Least
Holyfield-when is a head but not a head but,when Evander throws it
Lalia Ali-retired rather then face Wolfe
Jeremy Bates-Could have done so much more if he'd have actually trained

---

Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

---

Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

---

Ignore Hopkins all you want, he Butts, hits and holds habitually as well as shoulder butts... Evander is a fighter not your kids school teacher he should be judged on his craft, since thats whats relevant

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Amazing that you love Hopkins but you Hate on Holyfield... Hopkins cheats 90% of a fight:confused:

---

Trust me I have the fights on tape,he leans and he'll hit on the thigh,but thats not the same damage a head butt does. One slows you down, the other causes a fight stopping cut,and I have yet to see a heavy weight bout from Holyfield that doesnt involve a headbut.
Not to mention morally,Evander has what? A million kids with a million different women? Hopkins lives like a Spartan

---

Ignore Hopkins all you want, he Butts, hits and holds habitually as well as shoulder butts... Evander is a fighter not your kids school teacher he should be judged on his craft, since thats whats relevant

---

No Hopkins shoulder leans,but he generally fights with his head tucked,Holyfield slams that sucker in there

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

---

:lol: I was just about to say that :D

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by leftylee

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

---

:lol: I was just about to say that :D

---

I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

Faves:

Mayweather

Pavlik

Oscar

Roy Jones

Paulie Malignaggi

Least Faves:

Zab Judah

Jermain Taylor

Jeff Lacy

Antonio Tarver

Bernard Hopkins

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by leftylee

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

I think Winky Wright would argue with you about that;)

---

:lol: I was just about to say that :D

---

I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

---

Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by leftylee

:lol: I was just about to say that :D

---

I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

---

Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

---

He fouled him in every clinch all 5000000000000 of them... Hopkins is dirty and implemented more fouling to compensate for age and deteriorating athleticism over the past few years... End of Story dude;)

Favorite Evander Holyfield Shane Mosley Least Favorite Antonio Tarver

fav
steve cunningham tuff dude and most underated
kendall holt
rj
bhop
calvin brock
paulie malignaggi
robert guerrero
james toney

least
tarver
rahman
paul williams
peterson brothers
litzau
flloyd

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by JT Rock

I just wanted you to know Monkey I was a Hopkins fan up till that fight with Wright.. One of this generations best tactician and defenseman got royally screwed as Hopkind fouled and warned 190000000 times, he was hitting Wright everywere except legally... Wright isint a dirty fighter nor does he have the rep as one, so it wasnt like Hopkins was fighting fire with fire.. Wright got screwed and Hopkins was allowed to be a cheating fuck.

Consequenlty he cheated his balls off aginst Tarver too but no one cared since it was Tarver, But Hopkins fouled that whole fight too..

---

Oh come now,he fought Tarver away,taking advantage of Tarver's pawing jab and not letting him find range

---

He fouled him in every clinch all 5000000000000 of them... Hopkins is dirty and implemented more fouling to compensate for age and deteriorating athleticism over the past few years... End of Story dude;)

---

Your allowed to clinch for a minute,and if you think youd survive for 5 minutes at the Blue Horizon not clinching,your only fooling yourself.
Bringing up the Tarver fight,where Bernard was fighting away is ludicrous.

And what was Tyson complaining about right before he took a chunk at of Holyfields ear?
Head butts
Holyfield even head butted Jeremy Bates for gods sake

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Your allowed to clinch for a minute,and if you think youd survive for 5 minutes at the Blue Horizon not clinching,your only fooling yourself.

---

Dude is your brain already starting to atrophy from all that Tofu? What the hell does this staement have to do with the topic...
Fact#1

Hopkins was showing his age against Taylor, he was starting slow and trying to conserve and it cost him, this trend was becoming progressively stronger, until he fought Tarver and was content with tucking his head and throwing one right hand at a time, clinching holding and hitting.. Wash, rinse and repeat... Same thing against Wright.. Albeit they were all southpaws so I can see him utilizing the straight right, but Christ all mighty!!! He was throwing 15 punches per round and only 3 were legal

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

Holyfield even head butted Jeremy Bates for gods sake

---

Yor really full of shit on this one, seen the fight 5 times and that didnt happen, no more than any other fighters getting an inadvertent clash

If you dont like Holy then just admit it, but dont pontificate the dirtiest player in the game Ric Flair Hopkins, and then dig on Holyfield.. It looks supremely fanboyish and nuttugging

Favorites-I'm just gonna go with guys that are fighting or on the brink of retirement

Juan Diaz-don't really care so much if he's a good role model, just enjoy watching him fight

James Toney-favorite fighter ever, brilliant to watch, impeccable moral compass and fiber and all that.

Bernard Hopkins-I get why people don't like him, but I became a fan early and I'm a loyal fan if anything

Peterson Brothers-like watching them fight.

Evander Holyfield-round ten of Bowe-Holyfield I, etc.

Kelly Pavlik-Pretty fun to watch.

I'm tired of thinking, I'm sure there's more

Least favorites

Wladimir Klitschko-I'm not really concerned that he's not American, I can't have a list of fighters that I dislike and not have him on it, its just not right. Just to conform that little bit to the rules I won't include Daniel Ponce de Leon. Or Sam Peter.

Zahir Raheem-Boring boring boring, clench fall down clench fall down, whine.

Rocky Juarez-Has thrown 8 punches in his last 14 fights combined.

I'm sure there's more.

How the hell can juan diaz be classed as american???

oh thats right because he lives there.........


with that logic you could say jude law, maria sharapova and lennox lewis are all american!!!

Juan Diaz was born in America, none of the other people you mentioned were. Lived there his whole life. There's been an argument about this before with ICB but if you're born in a country I consider you of that country.

But then Vitali would be Soviet, and they don't exist anymore.

Mavrovic would be Yugoslavian, but they don't exist anymore??

What I like about Malignaggi is he doesn't try to BS the public when he gives a bad performance

if you'd heard him on Wednesday nights he didn't even use the hand or the braids as an excuse for why he looked bad.

He said "Ndou changed up his game plan a little. Broken hand or no broken hand, braids or no braids, there's no excuse for performing like I have in the last 2 fights"

Like Atlas said, he is an honest fighter, and I like that about him. The fact that he talks trash and walks in intending to do exactly that and if he doesn't he criticizes himself and is honest about it.

Most fighters just avoid the fact they looked crappy. He blatantly states it. So thats one thing I like about him

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

How the hell can juan diaz be classed as american???

oh thats right because he lives there.........


with that logic you could say jude law, maria sharapova and lennox lewis are all american!!!

---

Juan Diaz
Born: USA
Resides: USA
Speaks: English

So where are you claiming he's from?

Fav: Pavlik, Winky, Taylor, Micky Ward, Emanuel Augustus(just entertaining!)

Least: B-Hop, John Ruiz, Toney

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by killersheep

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

How the hell can juan diaz be classed as american???

oh thats right because he lives there.........


with that logic you could say jude law, maria sharapova and lennox lewis are all american!!!

---

Juan Diaz
Born: USA
Resides: USA
Speaks: English

So where are you claiming he's from?

---

Could we be saying that he's not American because his last name is Diaz? Someone didn't do their research!

Anyway, top 5 favs - Shane Mosley, Andre Berto, JUAN DIAZ!, Malignaggi and David Diaz. Mosley cos he's just class. berto for the potential excitement factor, Juan Diaz cos of his come forward style, Malignaggi cos of his attitude and heart and D.Diaz cos of his post fight interview language!

Least favs - Any of the heavyweights bar Arreola!

Favourite Shane least favourite Floyd which tells you who I will support in the biggest fight of the year!

Favourite Fighters :

Bernard Hopkins - he's one of the smartest technicians i've ever seen and has fought some quality fighters in his career......and made them look silly. :) I'm surprised so many people dislike him. He fights dirty but he's not the only one. One poster on here (JT) has Holyfield who is known for using his head as a favourite and dislikes Hopkins for the same reason :confused:. Come on JT, give Hopkins a break.

Timothy Bradley - The guy has very good skills, he can do it all imo. He's wants to fight the best and has proven himself against very solid opposition so far.

Evander Holyfield - A true warrior, The guy had great heart and skills to back it up. A fighter i have aton of respect for. I wish he would call it a day though.

Muhammad Ali - Do i really need to explain ? at a young age had amazing reflexes and athelticism, Once age caught up with him, he adapted his style so he could still compete with top fighters and beat them. An absolute legend.

Chad Dawson - The guy has tons of talent and is a really nice guy. It's unforenate for him because the division he is in lacks names and he isn't popular enough to get big fights (Hopkins, Calzaghe,etc).

Shane Mosley - Sugar is a beast, fights the best, has incredible speed and power and underated boxing ability imo.

Least Favourite Fighters:

Paulie Malignaggi - The guy has good boxing skills but i hate his big mouth. He always talks about getting robbed against Diaz in the first fight when it's not like some dodgy decision haven't gone his way before (2nd Ndou fight, Ngoudjo).

Jesse Brinkley - The guy is a asshole. I remember watching him on the contender against Robin Reid and Reid beat him clearly. When Reid went to give a hug and show some respect, He turned his back on him and was really immature about getting beat. I don't like that. Fighters should show other fighters respect.

Peter Mafredo Jr - For obvious reasons, He sucks.

Andre Berto - I quite like Berto, it's clear he has skills but his title defenses are a joke. He's only fought one top WELTERWEIGHT contender during his reign and it's a fight he argueably lost. His other defenses are against natural Junior welterweights who were too small and had no power (Forbes and could possibly be Paulie this year) or too limited (Urango) to compete with him. Hopefully he steps up and fights some real welterweights this year.

I can't think of anyone more at the moment. I will add them once i remember.

My favorites:
Jonathan Banks
Tavoris Cloud
The Peterson's
Paul Williams
Peter Quillin
Joe Greene

My least favorites:
Sergio Mora
Peter Manfredo Jr.
Rocky Juarez
Juan Diaz
Paulie Spadafora
Paulie Malinaggi

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Master

Favourite Shane least favourite Floyd which tells you who I will support in the biggest fight of the year!

---

Yep, with ya on that one :cool: ; would also add ODLH to faves !