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Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his nephew..
Roger Mayweather is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his nephew beat them :rofmaoal:
Boxingtalk recently caught up with trainer Roger Mayweather to discuss his nephew/charge, former pound for pound boss Floyd Mayweather Jr., and his most recent retirement. On the Teddy Atlas theory that Floyd Jr. did not want his father training someone to face him and have his family's dirty laundry aired over media channels: Teddy Atlas don't know shit. He don't know shit about boxing any damn way. He can't train nobody. So what he says don't mean shit. It has nothing to do with that. My nephew retired because he did what no other fighter in history has done, he won six world titles at five weight classes and retired undefeated.
Let me tell you something, Floyd didn't start no motherfucking boxing at ten or twelve, Floyd been boxing since he was one. He's been around boxing his entire life. His legacy is already made.
On whether big Floyd would have made a difference in Oscar De La Hoya's corner against little Floyd?
He struggled with Stevie Forbes what the fuck is going to do against Floyd? I use to train both of them (Floyd Mayweather and Stevie Forbes), they were a year apart, at the same time.
Let me tell you something, De La Hoya couldn't beat my nephew if he brung Angelo Dundee, no training ass Manny Steward and Floyd.
On Floyd threatening to fire him if he trained Steve Forbes for his match against Oscar De La Hoya before their upcoming September rematch, and missing out on a big check:
No, it's not like that. My thing was, I wasn't mad; it was how he said it. But he didn't say it to me. But he told me he didn't want me to train Stevie Forbes because of the fight coming up. Bottom line, Stevie Forbes didn't win and Floyd ain't going to fight him anyways, so it makes no fucking difference.
On Floyd's legacy:
BT: You think he's leaving some unfinished business?
RM: Why?
BT Some of the guys he won the championships from, say Arturo Gatti?
RM: Yeah, Gatti was the champ so he kicked his ass. Yeah.
BT: And at 147?
RM: Won it twice, from Zab Judah and Carlos Baldomir. And then he whupped motherfucking De La Hoya's ass.
BT: What about Miguel Cotto?
RM: Floyd doesn't have unfinished business with Cotto. Floyd has already done what no fighter in history has ever done. They already done it, but they lost. Thomas Hearns did it, but he already lost. ‘Sugar' Ray Robinson did it, but he already lost.
BT: So being undefeated is an important part of it?
RM: Listen, when they talk about fighters, who is the only guy they bring up because he was the only champ to retire undefeated?
BT: Rocky Marciano?
RM: And he beat a bunch of old motherfuckers, right.
BT: A similar argument could be made of Floyd?
RM: No, Floyd fought the guys in their prime. :spit: :rofmaoal:
Floyd in history is always going to be questioned; oh, he could have fought this guy or that guy. Even if he comes back, that's how it will always go.
On whether Floyd will stay retired or be lured back:
RM: Most fighters come back for one reason - money - we'll he already got money.
BT: You don't think that money might dry up?
RM: Seventy million!
BT: (Mike) Tyson and (Evander) Holyfield went through more than that.
RM: Floyd don't have twenty kids. And remember this; Tyson's money you can say was taken from him. It wasn't him spending all that money. If a motherfucker comes back and he's got seventy million dollars, there's something wrong with him any motherfucking way. He don't have no dope problems. He don't have no coke problems. He don't have no drinking problems. He has a couple of kids. If a man comes back from that, he got other problems.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
Good read Danny , i likes when Mayweathers feel pressure like that....
That makes me laugh................they were in their Prime......:rolleyes:
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
LOL, what a joke.
A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
ODLH WAS in his prime, but for PPV buys not skill.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
Whack Job...
I can't wait til Mayweather comes out of retirement cuz I wasnt to see Roger shopping for half the 24/7 shows again...;D
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
floyd fought plenty of guys in their prime, roger is just dumb for mentioning the three guys that he did..
any fighter can be criticized of who they fight, and we've heard every excuse, from he was past it, he had a broken hand, he had the flu, his dog died during training camp.. Floyd has a great resume, and in my opinion the only guy left that i want to see him fight, is Cotto.. but can i say that floyd is less of a great fighter because he didn't fight Cotto? No i can't, he's an incredible fighter, but i would just like to see this fight happen to silence all the critics.. as many others would..
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
wesrman
LOL, what a joke.
A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.
As for Hearns and Leonard they would have slaughtered him and SRR would have decimated him.;D
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
Mayweather and De La Hoya would've always given each other problems. The higher in weight, the better the chances for De La Hoya.
Mayweather really didn't have much business fighting @ 154, like DLH @ middleweight.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
wesrman
LOL, what a joke.
A younger De La Hoya would have killed him in imo.
No the real joke is you thinking ODLH would kill Mayweather, let me tell you no boxer in history would kill/destroy Mayweather. Is there fighters that can beat him ?? yes but destroy him ?? nope never. And lets remember the Mayweather at Super Featherweight was much faster and had genuine punching power at that weight. And its not like ODLH was "really past his prime" some of his best performances were at Jr Middleweight aka Mosley 2 aka Vargas, his fights against Sturm, Hopkins, don't count they were at a weight class ODLH was clearly uncomfortable at, ODLH had a 1 stone advantage and still was out boxed by Mayweather.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
If a motherf***er comes back and he's got seventy million dollars, there's something wrong with him any motherf***ing way. He don't have no dope problems. He don't have no coke problems. He don't have no drinking problems. He has a couple of kids. If a man comes back from that, he got other problems.
:lol:
Amongst all the waffle that is some pretty sound reasoning ;)
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
"On the Teddy Atlas theory that Floyd Jr. did not want his father training someone to face him and have his family's dirty laundry aired over media channels: Teddy Atlas don't know shit. He don't know shit about boxing any damn way. He can't train nobody. So what he says don't mean shit. It has nothing to do with that."
I'd pay $59.99 to see Teddy Atlas and Roger Mayweather fight...
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
It's actually irrelevant as you could argue that Floyd beats a prime Gatti and Baldomir anyway.
The question is, as is alluded to above, would he have beat a prime DLH?
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
prime ODLH vs prime mayweather would be a joy to watch. :cool:
I dont think mayweather needs to fight cotto to secure his legacy, it may make him move up on the list alot but he doesn't need it. even IF he beat cotto by that time there would be another deserving fighter that everyone will be saying floyd needs to fight to secure his legacy...it will never end.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
Baldomir may have been near his prime?? I mean he is just a plodding, slow ass fighter so i don't think his prime that relevant.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
steelie
It's actually irrelevant as you could argue that Floyd beats a prime Gatti and Baldomir anyway.
The question is, as is alluded to above, would he have beat a prime DLH?
There is no doubt in my mind that Floyd would beat prime Gatti and prime Baldomir, I don't know about a Prime ODLH though. But, for Roger to make such bold faced lies, claiming these guys were in their prime, makes Floyd look even worse.
Ducking Cotto and Margarito was a shame and will be the stain on PBF's would be legacy as the so called greatest fighter ever.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
Its late...but Ive had it with Diva #2 Mayweather.I have no doubt in my mind that he will...In all his King Midas glory....pause....Comeback.....;D you can take it to the bank!!He and Oscar are High-fiving one another in the negotiations room....:biteit:
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
I think PBF beats all these guys in their primes. Gatti and Baldo were at the top of their careers when Floyd smashed them. ODLH was not prime but he had a huge size advantage and was as well trained as he had been in his career.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
ODH was not an active fighter when he fought Mayweather, the only reason that it was a competative fight was because it was at the higher weight.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
RP33
floyd fought plenty of guys in their prime, roger is just dumb for mentioning the three guys that he did.
Now I've read the thing through twice, and I still cannot see Roger mentioning these people. It is Danny, not Roger singling them out.
And as a lot of people have mentioned, it makes no sense to complain that Gatti and Baldomir were over the hill when Floyd fought them, as they were never really any better in the first place. When was Baldomir's prime, if not for the period after beating Judah?
[Roger is still delusional though]
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Mikkel_K
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Originally Posted by
RP33
floyd fought plenty of guys in their prime, roger is just dumb for mentioning the three guys that he did.
Now I've read the thing through twice, and I still cannot see Roger mentioning these people. It is Danny, not Roger singling them out.
And as a lot of people have mentioned, it makes no sense to complain that Gatti and Baldomir were over the hill when Floyd fought them, as they were never really any better in the first place. When was Baldomir's prime, if not for the period after beating Judah?
[Roger is still delusional though]
Good point.
Totally agree.
This is selective reasoning here. Roger aint stupid enough (believe it or not) to say that Gatti, Baldo, & Oscar were prime. Floyd totally annihilated many prime fighters who were @ the top of the divisions while Floyd was coming up.
Also...Floyd did'nt duck Cotto.
Cotto never made a challenge. NEVER.
That's old news though...just like it's old news that Cotto was ringside for the Brusseles fight to get a bird's eye view of Mayweather & after the performance...the one that ended with a BANG instead of a WHIMPER...Cotto still kept his lips sealed.
FACT.
I love Cotto. He's the man...but he did'nt want Floyd...nor did he name him as a possible opponent.
As far as Margarito goes...that's an arguement that has been long running.
Floyd ducked him?
Floyd did'nt?
Margarito was worth it?
Margarito was?
Regardless...it's now a moot point because good ole' Paul Williams sealed that deal a handful or two months down the road.
The fact remains that you either love Floyd or you hate him...we all know the side of the road that most stand on with Floyd.
Hell...I'm a fan of Floyd...but he's easy to loathe.
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Tall Paul is the only one who would beat Floyd in his prime. Who wants to challenge Tall Paul- Berto, hell no. The other 2 who I wont name since people get so upset when I Bring them up like Paul aint worthy of them. U can run but U cant hide. Tall Paul, the return of the BOOGY MAN. Thats why Floyd retired not because of the other 2. BOO, The BOOGY MAN IS HEAR. Margo is going to destroy COTTO. Tall Paul and Margo are the best WW in the division, bar none. COTTO and FLOYD are good but not as good as Tall Paul and Margo.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
uwey
Tall Paul is the only one who would beat Floyd in his prime. Who wants to challenge Tall Paul- Berto, hell no. The other 2 who I wont name since people get so upset when I Bring them up like Paul aint worthy of them. U can run but U cant hide. Tall Paul, the return of the BOOGY MAN. Thats why Floyd retired not because of the other 2. BOO, The BOOGY MAN IS HEAR. Margo is going to destroy COTTO. Tall Paul and Margo are the best WW in the division, bar none. COTTO and FLOYD are good but not as good as Tall Paul and Margo.
This was an........interesting post...
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
uwey
Tall Paul is the only one who would beat Floyd in his prime. Who wants to challenge Tall Paul- Berto, hell no. The other 2 who I wont name since people get so upset when I Bring them up like Paul aint worthy of them. U can run but U cant hide. Tall Paul, the return of the BOOGY MAN. Thats why Floyd retired not because of the other 2. BOO, The BOOGY MAN IS HEAR. Margo is going to destroy COTTO. Tall Paul and Margo are the best WW in the division, bar none. COTTO and FLOYD are good but not as good as Tall Paul and Margo.
I like the way this guy thinks......about Margarito anyway.
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Re: Roger is delusional. Says Gatti, Baldo and ODLH were in their prime when his neph
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Originally Posted by
boozeboxer
Baldomir may have been near his prime?? I mean he is just a plodding, slow ass fighter so i don't think his prime that relevant.
I nearly fell of my fucking chair with laughter, have some rep :D
