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Did anyone else hear that Williams was willing to fight Pavlik, BUT ONLY if his purse would be 2.5 million?!
In my opinion, Williams is no way near supposed to earn that much! AND why the hell should Pavlik take the bottom end of the stick?! Now I would hope this happens and Williams could get blasted into oblivion!
Any one else have thoughts on this?
Ever seen a mohawked head liquify under brutal precision punching?;D
Williams doesn't deserve that much but he realizes his meat and potatoes are at 147 right now. You'd need to pay him that much to consider bumping up 2 weight classes where no one knows if he'd be a threat and he'd look a lot more like an ordinary fighter (with long arms). He could give Pavlik problems if he could keep up the workrate he beat Margarito with, but Kelly is THE chin tester and that low left arm of Williams, same as Jermain Taylor's reeks of disaster. I say it would look largely like the first Taylor match-up except instead of Williams putting it on his heel he gets smacked down in the center of the ring.
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Originally Posted by PRIDE OF BOSTON
Yeah, it looked something like this: :foruml10gc5:
Williams must know 1/2 of that purse he wants would go towards restructuring his face and buying a blood bank. The last thing Kelly needs right now is to fight a guy coming up 2 weight classes. Lockett I'll give him; Mora is kind of stretching it in terms of building his legacy, and fighting Williams is just ruining everyting he's done to this point IMO. Let Williams test the waters 1st and see in a couple of years.
...the whole idea is just plain silly. I give him props for the dumb idea though. Williams is once again going after the fighters that everyone else avoids. Probably better is williams offers to arm-wrestle him instead. Probably have a better chance.
Hopefully Williams can hurry up and get a bout in against Cotto before he has to move up to 154. After that, I have to agree once he gets to 160 he should fight a couple bums before taking on Pavlik.
WTF? He's just talking shit, he would probably get in there against Wlad if the price was right....
No kidding. This is one of the oldest things in boxing.... calling out an opponent and naming a price that you know you're never going to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I remember when Roy Jones said he'd fight Lennox Lewis..... if they paid him $100 million.
I would also get in the ring with Pavlik for 2.5 million. Just in case Mr. Arum is reading. Hell yeah
Anyways, this is nonsense would never happen and rightfully so. I see no way Williams could win. I think the first person to give Pavlik trouble is going to be the person who moves laterally on him. JT tried a little bit it just didn't come natural to him. Someone like Spinks maybe or one day Giovanni Lorenzo. But right now I simply don't think there is anybody who beats Kelly Pavlik at middleweight. It's a fairly weak division and it's my belief that Pavlik beats all comers. I look at the division and I literally can not find a single person that could possibly give him some trouble and make a bid for the upset.
Closest I came was Lorenzo who does a lot of side to side movement and makes you work inside on him to get the job done but he doesn't use the ring real well and traps himself in corners a lot, Pavlik would have a field day. Spinks is a tough fight for anybody and would definitely take some rounds from Pavlik imo but he gets consistently broken down over the second half of nearly half of every fight and he has a bad chin.
Until he moves to 168 or someone else comes along, my guess is Pavlik stays undefeated for a long time.
Stupid talk at it's finest...
I would too. Hell I'd do it for much less than that. I would probably say something about wrapping him in a cocoon of horror at the press conference.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
SweetPea reminded me of something...
Anyone remember Jorge Paez saying he'd be willing to fight Mike Tyson for 10 mill?
That shit was funny it was in an interview for a sports show.
Dan Rafael reported that the entire purse of Pavlik's last fight was 2.5 million and thus Williams offer was essentially a fake offer.
That wasn't a serious offer. Roy knew there was no chance of him beating Lennox and said something insane and impossible to indicate how insane and impossible making that fight would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPeaNo kidding. This is one of the oldest things in boxing.... calling out an opponent and naming a price that you know you're never going to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I remember when Roy Jones said he'd fight Lennox Lewis..... if they paid him $100 million.
Test him if u think he aint real. Tired of all the talk. If Paul aint real the I want to see the winner of Margo-Cotto test Paul. But u Know what, they wont. They criticize Floyd for avoiding a fight for big money but watch them do the same to Paul. Tired of all the talk prove it in the ring against PAUL WILLIAMS and see what happens. PROVE IT IN THE RING. At this point he is consider the # 2 or 3 best WW in the world but he has to beg for a fight against the best. COWARDS. Boxing is all POLITICAL. Cotto vs De la hoya. Margo vs de la hoya. Margo is the man but he did not win vs paul. Mayweather did it but everyone wanted his head for it. Dont show ur true colors u losers.I am angry now, so if u want to think u are the best Floyd, Cotto,Margo, test TALL PAUL and watch. Thats right, Im crying now, so what, u Punks wont dare and Test(ME)
I dont think this will ever possibly happen. Pavlik needs to fight Rubio or Griffin hopefully in Cleveland. In that time hopefully something can be made with the two German's ( Strum , and Abraham).Then a unifactation. I see no one coming close to him at 160 and maybee one or two giving him problems at 168(Kessler and Calzaghe). I would however love to see Pavlik fight Andrade for his first 168. I just want to see Pavlik has more power than Kessler and accually put old iorn jaw to sleep.
Think this is just Williams keeping his name mentioned in the press, fair play to him if he's serious but don't think he'd stand much of a chance.
No mention of Arthur Abraham. H'm. I think he's the one guy out there who could give Pavlik a real headache at 160.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
I was talking about it more in a stylistic sense. You can bridge a talent gap just by having a style that's wrong for someone. Abraham is definitely the second best fighter in the division but I'm not sure he's the nightmare style match up for Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarlickNo mention of Arthur Abraham. H'm. I think he's the one guy out there who could give Pavlik a real headache at 160.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Sure he's hard to hit in that guard but he's also a spot fighter. Pavlik has been hit cleanly before by Edison Miranda over and over and was never any worse for wear, I would be very very surprised if he crumbled under Abraham's power. It's possible as anything is but I just don't see it happening.
And for Abraham, it's hard to win rounds against Pavlik. Pavlik fights for 3 minutes a round, Abraham picks and chooses a minute here, half a minute there and in the face of Pavlik's consistent pressure from Pavlik. Pavlik might have a hard time working around the guard of Abraham in the early going imo, but Abraham would need his power to bail him out if this happened and I think Pavlik is up for the test.
I have always thought that after The Quintana Rematch...win Or lose...That Williams should move up in weight.Has yet to happen but Should he square off against Pavlik I see him getting trounsed.His quality chin (And its hitability) would get shattered I believe.
He may be a succesful Jr. Middleweight but even there his physical advantages will be diminished
For 2.5 million i would get in the ring with Satan himself let alone Kelly Pavlik.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Who would'nt get in the ring with Vlad at the moment he only uses his left hand. I would and iam only 10 stone i could run for 12 rounds so i figure i av a good chance at losing on points ;D not bad against the world champion eh ;D;D;DQuote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Pavlik dominates and knocks out williams early.
GETTING IN THE RING WITH PAVLIK FOR 2.5 MILLION IS A BREEZE.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
ITS WHEN YOU REALISE HES IN THERE TO FIGHT YOU AND HE STARTS KICKING SEVEN COLOURS OF CRAP OUTTA YOU , THATS WHEN ITS A PROBLEM , BUT AT LEAST YOUR WIDOW WOULD BE WEALTHY ;D;D
That's like that commercial with the guy who said he would go in with Holyfield and then Holyfield knocked his head off. I really don't think I would go in with Tyson that's not a lie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlGETTING IN THE RING WITH PAVLIK FOR 2.5 MILLION IS A BREEZE.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
ITS WHEN YOU REALISE HES IN THERE TO FIGHT YOU AND HE STARTS KICKING SEVEN COLOURS OF CRAP OUTTA YOU , THATS WHEN ITS A PROBLEM , BUT AT LEAST YOUR WIDOW WOULD BE WEALTHY ;D;D
Williams can take a great punch, but has somewhat shitty defensive reflexes and low guard. All of Williams physical advantages that he enjoys fighting welters would get washed away, while in with a guy who loves turning opponents into bobbleheads.
Williams will take on anyone, he is a brave guy, but I don't think Pavlik is a line he should cross at this point anyway. I mean hell, 2.5 mil is a lot, but he will probably get the same for fighting Cotto if Cotto beats Margarito. Williams' size advantage does give him at least a fair shake in that one.
Paul Williams WANTS to fight Kelly Pavlik?
I'll have some of whatever he's smoking.
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Originally Posted by KillfaceThat wasn't a serious offer. Roy knew there was no chance of him beating Lennox and said something insane and impossible to indicate how insane and impossible making that fight would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPeaNo kidding. This is one of the oldest things in boxing.... calling out an opponent and naming a price that you know you're never going to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I remember when Roy Jones said he'd fight Lennox Lewis..... if they paid him $100 million.
Where is someone with a spare $100 million when you need one though, right?
If only Bill Gates was a huge Roy/Lennox fan,,,, Roy woulda had to back up his ridiculous offer, and we woulda seen the equivelant of Spud Webb trying to dunk leaping left hooks onto Lennox's 8 foot high head.. (thanks ICB for the reference)
LOL! ANDDDD, it just goes to show/prove how gay it was winning a heavyweight belt off Ruiz... By then going on to say, now pay me $100 million and i'll fight the PROPER champ..! :) I see humour in this...Quote:
Originally Posted by DizasterQuote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceThat wasn't a serious offer. Roy knew there was no chance of him beating Lennox and said something insane and impossible to indicate how insane and impossible making that fight would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetPea
Where is someone with a spare $100 million when you need one though, right?
If only Bill Gates was a huge Roy/Lennox fan,,,, Roy woulda had to back up his ridiculous offer, and we woulda seen the equivelant of Spud Webb trying to dunk leaping left hooks onto Lennox's 8 foot high head.. (thanks ICB for the reference)
Anyway, Williams IS smoking something... If only all you need were arms and wacky hair,, he could step up to any weight he would like..