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My honest opinion on Tony
I know I come across as a hater, but I do recognize, even though I have never admitted it until now, that he is a decent fighter. Sure he doesn't have good speed or technique, but he has crazy stamina, he knows how to land punches, and he throws good combinations. In order to land punches with slow hands that shows timing, and determination which he has in bundles. He obviously isn't a bad fighter or he wouldn't have come back so strong against CLottey or Williams. The one thing I could see is him and Cotto having a tough war at the begining, but Cotto clearly outboxing him, and then as the fight wears on Cotto not being able to keep up with the relentless Tony, but I don't think that will happen, but it could. I never felt he deserved a fight with Mayweather until he fought a Cotto or ODLH or Mosley so if he wins next Saturday I still won't like him, but I will respect him for being tough, and never giving up on himself.
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Cool, But I think Margarito will pull out a late Tko.
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Cool, But I think Margarito will pull out a late Tko.
I don't
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Cool, But I think Margarito will pull out a late Tko.
I don't
Ok cool, What do you think will happen
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I hope Margarito will win. I dont think he will, but I hope so. But this isn't like the Gatti-Mayweather hope.........Tony has a very legitimate chance.
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I think Margarito takes this inside the distance....It might be called a huge upset but I prefer calling It a huge over sight :-X
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Cool, But I think Margarito will pull out a late Tko.
I don't
I do
I do I do I do-oo.
Seriously, this is the fight were Cotto's chin gets checked.
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I think Margarito takes this inside the distance....It might be called a huge upset but I prefer calling It a huge over sight :-X
EXACTLY!
;)
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Yes of course, Margarito is a good fighter. And I think it's a very good point about the fact that he is able to land power punches from the outsife, without actually being fast, showing good timing. I think the trouble for him comes when a guy is clearly faster, and also has good timing. I think Cotto easily fits this bill and will put a hurting on Margo.
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Cotto in 8 in a fight of the year that i cant wait for, im not dissing tony I think hes the secong best welter out there, but i believe its Cotto's time for superstardom now, i just think Cotto will land the larger volume of punches and the bodyshots will take there toll on tony in rnd 7 or 8, but up until then itll be all out war/
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Marg is under-rated but Cotto is one of the best fighters in the world and i think will win a UD by boxing and engaging speradically. If Cotto fights the way i think he will the fight will not be the barn burner we all assume it will be.
If he does get drawn in i think Marg might stop him.
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Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
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Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6
I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
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I know tony is a better fighter then his record says but imo his one of those guys that goes from elite to decent- decent to elite. He did lose to paul williams and imo that was his fault. he let some early rounds go to paul. As for cotto i think cotto always stays at his best and does not lay low. I do not get why people are saying cottos chin will be check but tony is not a one punch ko artist. just because he made kermit cry twice does not mean he can ko cotto. judah, mosley and other more faster harder hitter fighters couldn't how could tony just do it? if tony is going to win its going to be by decision. no way he ko's cotto.
more likely to happen is cotto k.o'ing tony. i think cotto wins in the mid round. his going to stop tony.
p.s. to macho and other cotto fan- for man law sake tell cotto to pull his pants up his damn pubes are starting to show :puke:
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Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6
I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
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Jesse James
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6
I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.
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Taeth
I know I come across as a hater, but I do recognize, even though I have never admitted it until now, that he is a decent fighter. Sure he doesn't have good speed or technique, but he has crazy stamina, he knows how to land punches, and he throws good combinations. In order to land punches with slow hands that shows timing, and determination which he has in bundles. He obviously isn't a bad fighter or he wouldn't have come back so strong against CLottey or Williams. The one thing I could see is him and Cotto having a tough war at the begining, but Cotto clearly outboxing him, and then as the fight wears on Cotto not being able to keep up with the relentless Tony, but I don't think that will happen, but it could. I never felt he deserved a fight with Mayweather until he fought a Cotto or ODLH or Mosley so if he wins next Saturday I still won't like him, but I will respect him for being tough, and never giving up on himself.
Nice one for being real, but this stuff you should have known a while back, the probelem is when peeps let there favoritisism get in the way, but you cool for coming real and unbiased in a way.
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6
I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Gotta agree with Jesse James here! Margarito "walked" through the punches of the hardest puncher IMO in the welterweight division in Cintron, and although Cotto has got good power I just don't see him getting the job done early as Margos punch resistance is freakish.
My opinion of how this fight will pan out is that the first few rounds will probably be taken by Cotto outboxing Tony. Then I think that as Cottos confidence grows he will start to take a few more chances and go for the knockout around the middle rounds where I think that Tony will start to come into the fight with his great stamina and heart. But I don't see either man knocking the other out and after about round 9 I think that Cotto will realise this and revert to boxing Tony and take a UD.
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Jesse James
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TitoFan
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I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.
Could've, should've, would've. It's all speculation. Saying Judah could've won if only he'd thrown more punches is like saying the Lakers could've beat the Celtics if only they'd scored more points. Only Judah himself knows why he didn't "follow up" on Cotto after he tagged him with those early uppercuts. Maybe he knew that Cotto wasn't that badly hurt, and was a dangerous puncher himself. In any case, you have to admit Judah's stock actually went up after that fight. He'd never been taken into the trenches before... and he carried himself well in the face of the onslaught. Weak-willed he was not.
As far as Gomez, who really knows? People are pairing him up with that "rising star" JCC Jr. While you may be right about Gomez, I just don't think his getting beaten up by someone like Cotto automatically makes him a chump.
And your description of Cotto as a bully, IMO, understates one of Cotto's strengths, and that is his boxing skills and his ability to adapt to the opponent's style. His "out-jabbing" of Mosley was a classic example.
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
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You can bet your life Cotto will box Marg he has the boxing skill and speed to box him.
Cotto is not silly enough to get drawn in, if he is there is only one winner imo.
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Markusdarkus
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
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You can bet your life Cotto will box Marg he has the boxing skill and speed to box him.
Cotto is not silly enough to get drawn in, if he is there is only one winner imo.
Agree here.Cotto must temper & pick his spots combined with boxing.He will have to sit down and get Margaritos attention/respect but his backfoot mobility will be a great necessity.If he stands in and looks to swap throughout,I think Tony can vary that range and catch him underneath repeatedly.He must fight smart & I have no doubt that he will.Viva Margarito ;D
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I really do not undersatnd how people still doubt Tony, The worst thing that can be said about him is he can be lazy....Tony is not a master boxer in anyway but then again there are very few,,,and I stress very few that fit that catagory...Tony has the tendency to lay back and not kick it in till later in bouts EG The Williams fight and the Clotty bouts...
When he does get going though he is more then most can handle...The power in his punches along with the stamina and fact he has a well proven and maybe one of the best chins in the business right now....
There are about a half dozen guys in the 147 and 154lb divisions that I would pick to outbox Tony but I can not name 1 I would pick that can stand up and out right beat him in a fight...
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
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Macho you know your my boy and I have nothing but the ut-most respect for you but I really have to ask why in the world do you think Margarito gets stopped? I can see maybe him losing this fight (:rolleyes:) but stopped?
No one stops Tony,,,
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I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.
OK Jesse , see this , to me Judah on that fight with Cotto was strong , faster , but without Stamina like most of time , he put Cotto few times wobble with great shots and uppercuts that could KO Cotto in that moment , IMO i consider Judah more hard hitter than Margaro , he is a boxer that can KO an opponent with one punch , Margaro don't , Cotto could outbox Judah by height and reach wasn't any difference .......................
About Mosley , he is a boxer with class , assimilated great Cottos punches , Cotto on that fight came to demonstrate his news skills with good performance to the whole World that he could boxing , Jabbing and exchanges punches with a great strong , faster , orthodox , technical and Champion with a hard chin like is SS Mosley , Mosley in half of fight knew that he couldn't keep the same rhythm , contrary of this , he could been KO by Cotto , some times you cant see what you expecting , all boxers have different Styles ............................
And Gomez , Cotto tooks 6 rounds with Gomez just for give spectaculars for the fans , you know that he could KO him much before , is likes TitoFan said that was more a testament to Cottos greatness than Gomez mediocrity..............................
Look this is the way that i see this fight IMO , Margaro as we know is a gladiator that like to go toe to toe and putting pressure with his great Stamina , and Cotto is an another gladiator that likes to impose his fight and strategies , their Styles will collisions and this is what it will going convert this to a real brawl in where Cotto has the advantage by his faster and technicals short shots contrary to Margaro , yeah , Cotto can outbox Margaro but not enough to win the fight , his reach is like 5-6 inches less than Margaro , Could we expect Cotto to win this fight outboxing ? My answer is No ..., if we remember the fight of Cotto vs Sparkman , Cotto was the aggressive fighter , i know that he didnt get that same improvements that has now , but now Cotto will face again with a taller opponent and with long reach , that like to fight like he(Cotto) likes too ..............
This why IMO i think this fight could end winning Cotto by KO in round 5-6 , now if Margaro comes to outbox Cotto and taking use his reach and height , this fight fight could end more lately or ending by UD , this is something odds on Margaro , but could happen , who knows............
Although Jesse , I'm Realistic , we have to think that this fight is with a fighters that have " Cojones Reales " and with a bit of same Style of fight , that will going to put everything inside the Ring with intelligence.............i never gave an opinion without been Realistic , if you seen my previous post , i put Cotto advantage and disadvantage and of Margaro too.......................
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tony has done ok at welterweight but i still feel he is very limited his punches are wide his defense is sloppy his handspeed is mediocre and his footspeed is slow cotto should handle margarito quite easy if he boxes
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I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.
Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.
Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.
Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
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No matter how good the chin is a good body shot will put down even the most iron chinned fighters margarito has been hurt by body punches more than once and he has a long torso which means it makes it an easy target for cotto to get underneath the elbows
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
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Macho you know your my boy and I have nothing but the ut-most respect for you but I really have to ask why in the world do you think Margarito gets stopped? I can see maybe him losing this fight (:rolleyes:) but stopped?
No one stops Tony,,,
Hey Daxx , don't get me wrong my friend , i don't want anybody misunderstand me , i just gave my opinion , probably all think that I'm crazy ;D , but i don't , i respect your opinion that think Cotto cant stop Margaro like to everybody , but Why not ?........if Cotto got a real good training , Why not ?.........we never cant underestimate that possibility Daxx , also Margaro could stop Cotto and i never doubt on that.............
The only way that i can see this fight Cotto winning by UD , is if he wear out Margaro in the latest round and avoid him to put pressure , probably we could see an UD , but man Daxx if you know Margaro , he never give up and Cotto either , they will put everything inside the Ring , that's why i make the conclusion that this will going end by KO or stoppage , i made my explanation in my previous post, probably looks like that I'm speculating too much , but i don't think so.................
By the way , i think that we have to wait for see how this fight will going start , they must have their strategies in how they will impose the fight ...............................Lets see Daxx..;D
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Macho
Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6 , he will not going outbox Margaro , could counter punches , but he cant outbox by his short reach , he need to impose the fight in certain way aggressive since the beginning , he has to stop Margaro and avoid get pressure by Margaro .................
Cotto trained for a real brawl , he knows that Margaro like that and Cotto will show him what he likes...................:cool:
http://inlinethumb42.webshots.com/42...600x600Q85.jpg
Macho you know your my boy and I have nothing but the ut-most respect for you but I really have to ask why in the world do you think Margarito gets stopped? I can see maybe him losing this fight (:rolleyes:) but stopped?
No one stops Tony,,,
Could Cotto wear his pants any lower? :-\
I bet Diane was first to find this pic.......
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Margarito getting stopped isn't inconceivable. He was hurt on a few different occasions versus Daniel Santos in their two fights and was bothered by the quick straight punches of Santos. Of course I think he was a bit robbed in both of those fights but he was hurt. Cotto is a great finisher, Margarito will have a tough time seeing his punches, I think rounds 5 or 6 are a bit early but a late stoppage is in no way out of the question imo.
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I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.
Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.
Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.
Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.
Damn it I can not wait for this.
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LEGION
I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.
Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.
Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.
Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.
Damn it I can not wait for this.
I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.
You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.
Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.
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amat
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LEGION
I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.
Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.
Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.
Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.
Damn it I can not wait for this.
I agree on that Amat...............:cool:
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amat
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LEGION
I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.
Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.
Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.
Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.
I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.
Damn it I can not wait for this.
I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.
You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.
Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.
OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.
Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.
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I agree with Amat and have said this for a while, I don't think Cotto has to or should box and move all night, Cotto does a good job of mixing it up, pressing, fighting on the inside, and boxing and moving. I think he should stick to that.
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I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.
Damn it I can not wait for this.
I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.
You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.
Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.
OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.
Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.
Margs best chance is to draw Cotto in he cannot outbox Cotto.
Marg game is in fighting so you box him.
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p.s. to macho and other cotto fan- for man law sake tell cotto to pull his pants up his damn pubes are starting to show :puke:
HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The lower the better!!!!!!! :lickish::lickish::lickish:
And those aren't pubes Julius, it's a tattoo, one that I wish that I could see completely! ;) ;D
You have to give me this one thing guys, you're always posting pics of hot girls on here, so just let me have my Miguel, and his low riding pants please. ;D
Pics like this can drive a girl crazy!!!!
For the love of God Miguel, keep them low, keep them low!
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9774/ct8kg0.jpg
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Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6
I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
Sorry to nit-pick but Mosley wasn't hurt in that fight.
Mosley even noted after the fight that Cotto had a suprising lack of 'pop' in his punches.
Sorry ;)
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I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....
Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.
All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.
Sorry to nit-pick but Mosley wasn't hurt in that fight.
Mosley even noted after the fight that Cotto had a suprising lack of 'pop' in his punches.
Sorry ;)
Did you READ what I wrote? Jesse James wrote that Cotto hadn't hurt Mosley. I answered that Mosley isn't easily hurt (except for his near KO loss to Vernon Forrest). I said even ODLH couldn't do it, and he's bigger than Cotto.
So where in there do you see me saying that Cotto had hurt Mosley?
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My prediction for this fight is that these forums are going to get so crowded Saturday, like Hatton/Mayweather crowded.
Can this new server handle it? Lets keep our fingers crossed.;D
As for the fight, I'm leaning towards Cotto, but he has to fight very very smart. Margarito will be right there like a windmill all night.
