My honest opinion on Tony

[Jesse James]

Cotto will KO Margaro in round 5 or 6

I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....

Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.

Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.

[TitoFan]

I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....

Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.

Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.

Could've, should've, would've. It's all speculation. Saying Judah could've won if only he'd thrown more punches is like saying the Lakers could've beat the Celtics if only they'd scored more points. Only Judah himself knows why he didn't "follow up" on Cotto after he tagged him with those early uppercuts. Maybe he knew that Cotto wasn't that badly hurt, and was a dangerous puncher himself. In any case, you have to admit Judah's stock actually went up after that fight. He'd never been taken into the trenches before... and he carried himself well in the face of the onslaught. Weak-willed he was not.

As far as Gomez, who really knows? People are pairing him up with that "rising star" JCC Jr. While you may be right about Gomez, I just don't think his getting beaten up by someone like Cotto automatically makes him a chump.

And your description of Cotto as a bully, IMO, understates one of Cotto's strengths, and that is his boxing skills and his ability to adapt to the opponent's style. His "out-jabbing" of Mosley was a classic example.

[Macho]

I really have to question how you come to this conclusion. Cotto took 11 rounds to KO weak-willed Judah, it took him 6 rounds to TKO C-level Gomez, he couldn't hurt Mosley, but you think he will KO Tony in 5 rounds? Come on dude, I'm not trying to rip you, but let's be realistic.....

Judah was anything BUT weak-willed in that fight.
Gomez may have looked C-level against Cotto, but I think that's more a testament to Cotto's greatness than Gomez's mediocrity.
Mosley's not that easy to hurt (unless you're the tall and rangy Vernon Forrest). ODLH couldn't do it, and he's a bit bigger than Cotto.

All that being said, I don't see an early KO by Cotto. It'll be a give-and-take, grinding battle, with Cotto wearing Tony out to the body and stopping him in the late rounds.

Judah showed HEART in that fight, but not too much will if you ask me. That's two different things. I just watched the replay and imo Judah could have won if he had more determination. He rocked Cotto a couple of times but never followed up. He played defense all night and didn't throw nearly enough punches. As for Gomez, I have to disagree as well. Gomez is a c-level fighter. His biggest accomplishments were what? A win over an old Ben Tackie and an ancient, battle worn Gatti? Tony is just as hard to hurt, if not harder, as Mosley. The way I see it, Cotto is a bully. He pressures you and batters you unless you get his respect. But once he gets hit, he doesn't like it, and he is just as vulnerable as anyone else. He won't be able to push Tony around like he did to Judah or Gomez.

OK Jesse , see this , to me Judah on that fight with Cotto was strong , faster , but without Stamina like most of time , he put Cotto few times wobble with great shots and uppercuts that could KO Cotto in that moment , IMO i consider Judah more hard hitter than Margaro , he is a boxer that can KO an opponent with one punch , Margaro don't , Cotto could outbox Judah by height and reach wasn't any difference .......................

About Mosley , he is a boxer with class , assimilated great Cottos punches , Cotto on that fight came to demonstrate his news skills with good performance to the whole World that he could boxing , Jabbing and exchanges punches with a great strong , faster , orthodox , technical and Champion with a hard chin like is SS Mosley , Mosley in half of fight knew that he couldn't keep the same rhythm , contrary of this , he could been KO by Cotto , some times you cant see what you expecting , all boxers have different Styles ............................

And Gomez , Cotto tooks 6 rounds with Gomez just for give spectaculars for the fans , you know that he could KO him much before , is likes TitoFan said that was more a testament to Cottos greatness than Gomez mediocrity..............................

Look this is the way that i see this fight IMO , Margaro as we know is a gladiator that like to go toe to toe and putting pressure with his great Stamina , and Cotto is an another gladiator that likes to impose his fight and strategies , their Styles will collisions and this is what it will going convert this to a real brawl in where Cotto has the advantage by his faster and technicals short shots contrary to Margaro , yeah , Cotto can outbox Margaro but not enough to win the fight , his reach is like 5-6 inches less than Margaro , Could we expect Cotto to win this fight outboxing ? My answer is No ..., if we remember the fight of Cotto vs Sparkman , Cotto was the aggressive fighter , i know that he didnt get that same improvements that has now , but now Cotto will face again with a taller opponent and with long reach , that like to fight like he(Cotto) likes too ..............
This why IMO i think this fight could end winning Cotto by KO in round 5-6 , now if Margaro comes to outbox Cotto and taking use his reach and height , this fight fight could end more lately or ending by UD , this is something odds on Margaro , but could happen , who knows............

Although Jesse , I'm Realistic , we have to think that this fight is with a fighters that have " Cojones Reales " and with a bit of same Style of fight , that will going to put everything inside the Ring with intelligence.............i never gave an opinion without been Realistic , if you seen my previous post , i put Cotto advantage and disadvantage and of Margaro too.......................

[LEGION]

I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.

[ssss]

No matter how good the chin is a good body shot will put down even the most iron chinned fighters margarito has been hurt by body punches more than once and he has a long torso which means it makes it an easy target for cotto to get underneath the elbows

[amat]

I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.

I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

Damn it I can not wait for this.

[Markusdarkus]

I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.

I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

Damn it I can not wait for this.

I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.

[amat]

I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.

I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

Damn it I can not wait for this.

I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.

OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.

Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.

[OumaFan]

I agree with Amat and have said this for a while, I don't think Cotto has to or should box and move all night, Cotto does a good job of mixing it up, pressing, fighting on the inside, and boxing and moving. I think he should stick to that.

[Markusdarkus]

I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

Damn it I can not wait for this.

I think Marg is by far the biggest fighter Cotto has ever faced he is also the biggest puncher and best inside fighter Cotto has fought. He also has a chin of iron and a will to land shots no matter how many he takes, now that is a scarey fighter and you dont want to fight the beast at his own game. Marg is huge and i can see Cottos shots bouncing off now i cant say the same if Marg started landing on Cotto.

You dont fight to a guys strength esp when you can box as well as Cotto i mean he outboxed Mosley.

Margs only hope is on the inside imo i think Cotto will try and remove that chance.

OK, Margarito isn't the Terminator. If you are conceding that Cotto can land first on the inside, there is no way he is just going to let shots bounce off him. He's a human being, they are going to have an effect.

Margarito's best punch might be his overhand right, a punch that lands from the outside. If Margarito is the one pressing forward, then I agree it's probably not a good idea to stand inside. But if Cotto can press forward or they trade toe to toe, it's not a bad idea at all to go inside where is the faster puncher by a lot. Also, it'll be difficult for Cotto to get any body work done outside which I think is key for this fight.

Margs best chance is to draw Cotto in he cannot outbox Cotto.

Marg game is in fighting so you box him.

[Macho]

I can see Tony getting stopped only with some good body work.

Cotto won't headhunt Tony and get a ko; Tony walked through Cintron's bombs like they were no more pesky than a fly buzzing around.

Don't think Cotto has Cintron's power; but he can get that body well. Only problem is that if he tries consistently to fight Tony on the inside he will be susceptible to some big punishment from Tony, IMO. I see Cotto playing it smart and boxing all night on the outside; no way he gets into Tony's type fight.

Either Tony wins by ko or Cotto will decisively beat him on points; hoping on the former.

I think Cotto will be fine on the inside. Cotto has much faster hands and feet (though he doesn't use his footspeed much) then Margarito and I think he can afford to go inside with Margarito and beat Margarito to the punch with shorter, faster punches. I would be worried about Margarito's uppercut on the inside since that is his best punch and Cotto has eaten uppercuts in the past.

Damn it I can not wait for this.

I agree on that Amat...............

[Deanrw]

My prediction for this fight is that these forums are going to get so crowded Saturday, like Hatton/Mayweather crowded.

Can this new server handle it? Lets keep our fingers crossed.


As for the fight, I'm leaning towards Cotto, but he has to fight very very smart. Margarito will be right there like a windmill all night.