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At worse he has got a big mouth and loves himself a bit but apart from that whats to hate about him?
He has -speed
-power
-footwork
-always in great shape and actualy looks like a pro boxer unlike a lot of fat HW
-creates media interest in boxing
-wants to fight the very best out there
I dont hate him but he hasnt proven a thing in the division he is so free to shout off about. I hope he fights Toney and gets taken to school.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
I dunno actually, id like to know that one.
I like the man. He's what the division needs.... Aside from some actual fights happening, he's the man :)
Im just giving him time. I do trust his mouth and lets see him back it up against a good figher. I hope for Hayes sake that he doesnt fight somebody with an outstanding chin and gets himself tierd like he did against Thompson. These heavys hit a lot harder than the cat too!
he has not beaten a world class heavy , yet he talks far to much , put up or shut up David.
by the way i dont hate him. im just tired of his im gunna do this and that , PROVE IT !!!
David (and his fans) do too much talking when he's only beaten 1 heavyweight and Audley Harrison already beat that guy before Haye even fought him
Who cares, Haye has bought more attention to the Heavyweights in a few months than Dr Boringhammer has done in years thats why... Heavyweight division histoically speaking has been rich in traditon, lineage and to have an absolute snoozer presideing over it is a good enough reason..Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Haye has all the tools and charisma to be the next big thing
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Well at least he says the right things unlike Roy Jones when he moved up to HW.
There were very few HW Jones said he was willing to fight.
Haye has said right from the start that he wants the best out there and will fight anybody.
WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!
Hey if TALKING made good boxers then a used car salesman would have been champ looooooong ago
Haye is a twat and he'll continue to be one until he starts having fights...he's had 22 fights....when Tyson had 22 fights he was fighting like once a month and the last time Haye fought was in March and that was for 2 rounds....holy fuck can he just sign a Goddamned fight already.
I'm already tired of his followers......I await the day they compare him to Ali or Tyson or Lennox :rolleyes:
Well Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!
If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey
I don't like him because he runs his mouth without proving anything yet. Imagine IF he wins his first heavyweight fight, his mouth would need icy/hot cause it would be running all day!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Also, each time he confronts Wlad he's a dick about it. Wlad is the one that is very professional regardless of his performance in the ring.
I think Wlad gets it worse that Haye does...
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Originally Posted by LyleWell Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!
If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey
EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.
James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.
Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.
Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?
Though I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doingQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!
If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey
EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.
James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.
Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.
Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?
Because Haye isnt American its that simple.
Although the crazy love for Wlad stateside had Haye been Russian hed be ok.
Haye is great for boxing.
I can assure you there is no crazy love for Klit stateside, as a matter of fact I cant remember a Heavyweight champ since Larry Holmes that is more scutinized than Klit, and IMO its rightfully soQuote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
I like Haye as a Fighter I always have the trouble is his disrespect for other fighters he has not stopped calling every-other fighter a bum or a nobody
I dont mind him shouting out Wlad every heavyweight should be he is the man, but call every other HW a bum when you haven't fought any of them makes you him look like a cock
I dont know what some people here are suddenly getting so defensive about the Heavyweights.
We've been ripping the shit out of them for years :confused:
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Originally Posted by JT RockThough I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doingQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.
James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.
Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.
Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?
The point I am trying to make is that Haye is getting critisised for telling the world he wants to fight the best where as other fighters such as Jones were quite open about the fact they avoided certain boxers.
Hey man I support the Hayemaker a million percent, I think the guy is a breath of life for the divisionQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockThough I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doingQuote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
The point I am trying to make is that Haye is getting critisised for telling the world he wants to fight the best where as other fighters such as Jones were quite open about the fact they avoided certain boxers.
I think the hate is by people who haven't really followed his career and now read the quotes and don't like what they read.
What needs to be realised is that Haye says most things tongue in cheek but some because of their lack of knowledge of the fighter take everything literally.
So I would put it down to some peoples ignorance and lack of boxing knowledge.
Anyway Haye seemed very popular at the o2 Arena last time out and as my mate said he's now got 20,000 fans Welsh and English cos he was sensational.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by WelshDevilRob
I wanted Enzo to win that night but I am now 100% behind Haye now that he has moved up to HW.
I like haye, i actually think a lot of boxing fans do (most casual fans have no clue who he is) he's exciting in the ring so on and so forth. It's what he doing now especially in comparison to what he's done that people don't like not so much him. I think a lot of people are sick of hearing from the guy instead of seeing him.
I don't know because i love the guy i think he is brilliant think im going to go to the O2 when he fights next.You said it yourself he has it all Speed,footwork,power and he wants to fight the best he was number 1 at cruiser and wants to be number 1 at heavyweight can't knock him for that.
I disagree I have followed haye since the amateurs and always like hes style of fighting and still do i always thought he could be a great heavyweightQuote:
I think the hate is by people who haven't really followed his career and now read the quotes and don't like what they read.
What needs to be realised is that Haye says most things tongue in cheek but some because of their lack of knowledge of the fighter take everything literally.
So I would put it down to some peoples ignorance and lack of boxing knowledge.
Anyway Haye seemed very popular at the o2 Arena last time out and as my mate said he's now got 20,000 fans Welsh and English cos he was sensational.
I think Fraudly hasn't helped haye as soon as the spotlight was on him he went from nice guy to prick overnight
Haye could do massive things at heavyweight and I hope he does but if he keeps calling every other fighter bums who dont deserve to be in the ring with him when he isn't actually fighting any of them he is 22-1 he should be fighting every other month
The most important thing for Haye to do it pick a fighter and have a fight
Then he can talk all the shit he wants, tounge in cheek or not
I have been thinking about going to his next fight as well.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
Just want to know who he is actualy fighting first.I heard they are having trouble getting a name HW to come over to the UK to fight him.
I can respect the guys talent, enjoy to watch him in the ring and still think he is a prick! its allowed ;D
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Originally Posted by JT RockI can assure you there is no crazy love for Klit stateside, as a matter of fact I cant remember a Heavyweight champ since Larry Holmes that is more scutinized than Klit, and IMO its rightfully soQuote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Just a feeling i got on forums.
I can also understand why people wouldnt like Haye on both sides of the pond.
Horse for courses i just think its what the HW division needs and of course he will win a strap weather he beats Wlad i dont know.
Like him or loath him he got people talking about the big men again.;D
Thats why I like him by the way.
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Originally Posted by porkypara
Good man, a bacon switch on me! :lickish:
I gotta agree, klitchko for whatever reason is far far from loved here. At least from what i hear and see. I really don't mind either of them, i actually have to contradict something i said earlier, since hell i would have rather seen haye fight him then T. thompson. I really just feel the guy in teddy atlas talk would be "better served" making his claim with his fists in the ring than the route he's tried by getting the fight in the media.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkusdarkusQuote:
Originally Posted by JT RockI can assure you there is no crazy love for Klit stateside, as a matter of fact I cant remember a Heavyweight champ since Larry Holmes that is more scutinized than Klit, and IMO its rightfully soQuote:
Originally Posted by Markusdarkus
Just a feeling i got on forums.
I can also understand why people wouldnt like Haye on both sides of the pond.
Horse for courses i just think its what the HW division needs and of course he will win a strap weather he beats Wlad i dont know.
I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)Quote:
I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
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Originally Posted by sonny78
Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.
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Originally Posted by sonny78
I would say Haye is the most talented boxer in the HW division right now.
The big question is what happens when Haye get hit on the chin by a 16st+ guy.:o
He talks like he's done something in the division and hasn't. Hell, he only has 22 fights. Let him fight somebody at heavyweight then we'll cut him some slack.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
The HW of today are a joke thats whyI think he could beat any of them right now apart from the Klichko boys which I would make a 50/50 fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceHe talks like he's done something in the division and hasn't. Hell, he only has 22 fights. Let him fight somebody at heavyweight then we'll cut him some slack.Quote:
Originally Posted by porkypara
Well I wont bet my life I quite like it!! and I hope he is better at heavy than he is at crusier to be fair what did he do that was so great at cruser?Quote:
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Originally Posted by sonny78
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I like Haye, he's the only real bit of talent in the HW division with a chance of clearing it up.
Surely we will only know this when he fights someone in the heavyweight division (top 10)
Bet your life that Haye will be better at Heavy than he was at Cruser.
Talented yes but proven noQuote:
I would say Haye is the most talented boxer in the HW division right now.
The big question is what happens when Haye get hit on the chin by a 16st+ guy.
David Haye is one of the most talented boxers at Curser or Heavy but he has massive weaknesses and until he proves he can get past his weak chin and suspect stamina you cant say he is going to rule the roost at Heavy
I say he has shown great qualities but has not yet shown us he is a great fighter hope he does
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Originally Posted by sonny78
Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.:lolhaha::lolhaha::lolhaha:
What more did you want him to do at the weight?:confused:
He didnt beat Chuck Norris;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by sonny78
Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.:lolhaha::lolhaha::lolhaha:
What more did you want him to do at the weight?:confused:
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Originally Posted by JT RockHe didnt beat Chuck Norris;DQuote:
Originally Posted by porkyparaQuote:
Originally Posted by sonny78
Apart from winning the WBC,WBA,WBO and Ring world championships he did fuck all.:lolhaha::lolhaha::lolhaha:
What more did you want him to do at the weight?:confused:
Or Bruce Lee:foruml10gc5: