Why is David Haye so disliked o here???

[porkypara]

Well at least he says the right things unlike Roy Jones when he moved up to HW.

There were very few HW Jones said he was willing to fight.

Haye has said right from the start that he wants the best out there and will fight anybody.

WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!

Well Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.

And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!

If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

[JT Rock]

Well at least he says the right things unlike Roy Jones when he moved up to HW.

There were very few HW Jones said he was willing to fight.

Haye has said right from the start that he wants the best out there and will fight anybody.

WHATS WRONG WITH THAT!

Well Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.

And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!

If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

Though I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doing

[porkypara]

Well Roy was late in his career AND he started his career out below Middleweight.

And who the fuck is Haye to compare him to Roy Jones Jr.?!?!?!

If you're going to compare him to people you might want to start with guys like Moorer, Holyfield, and Juan Carlos Gomez.....you had better hope he's not Lawrence Clay-Bey

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

Though I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doing

The point I am trying to make is that Haye is getting critisised for telling the world he wants to fight the best where as other fighters such as Jones were quite open about the fact they avoided certain boxers.

[JT Rock]

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

Though I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doing

The point I am trying to make is that Haye is getting critisised for telling the world he wants to fight the best where as other fighters such as Jones were quite open about the fact they avoided certain boxers.

Hey man I support the Hayemaker a million percent, I think the guy is a breath of life for the division

[eagle]

EXAMPLE-Jones Moves up to HW and beats John Ruiz then says he is not willing to fight any of the so called SUPERheavyweights like Lewis or the Kiltschko boys.
The only other fight he wanted at HW was against washed up Mike Tyson.

James Toney moves up to HW and beats an old Holyfield and anounces that he would fight any HW in the world including then champ Lennox Lewis.

Point is Haye wants to fight the best out there same as James Toney when he moved up and unlike Jones who wanted hand picked opponents.

Whats wrong with wanting to fight the best?

Though I do feel like your off on the Roy Jones part of your arguement Porky, I dont see anything wrong about what Haye is doing

The point I am trying to make is that Haye is getting critisised for telling the world he wants to fight the best where as other fighters such as Jones were quite open about the fact they avoided certain boxers.

Do u think maybe the fact that Roy jones started at 160 and probably naturally weighs 180 or so has something to do with it. Haye is 4 inches taller anf 50 pounds heavier, of course he would feel more comfortable fighting big guys.
What a stupid argument.

[Markusdarkus]

Because Haye isnt American its that simple.

Although the crazy love for Wlad stateside had Haye been Russian hed be ok.

Haye is great for boxing.

[JT Rock]

Because Haye isnt American its that simple.

Although the crazy love for Wlad stateside had Haye been Russian hed be ok.

Haye is great for boxing.

I can assure you there is no crazy love for Klit stateside, as a matter of fact I cant remember a Heavyweight champ since Larry Holmes that is more scutinized than Klit, and IMO its rightfully so

[WelshDevilRob]

I think the hate is by people who haven't really followed his career and now read the quotes and don't like what they read.

What needs to be realised is that Haye says most things tongue in cheek but some because of their lack of knowledge of the fighter take everything literally.

So I would put it down to some peoples ignorance and lack of boxing knowledge.

Anyway Haye seemed very popular at the o2 Arena last time out and as my mate said he's now got 20,000 fans Welsh and English cos he was sensational.

[porkypara]

I think the hate is by people who haven't really followed his career and now read the quotes and don't like what they read.

What needs to be realised is that Haye says most things tongue in cheek but some because of their lack of knowledge of the fighter take everything literally.

So I would put it down to some peoples ignorance and lack of boxing knowledge.

Anyway Haye seemed very popular at the o2 Arena last time out and as my mate said he's now got 20,000 fans Welsh and English cos he was sensational.

I agree.

I wanted Enzo to win that night but I am now 100% behind Haye now that he has moved up to HW.

[sonny78]

I think the hate is by people who haven't really followed his career and now read the quotes and don't like what they read.

What needs to be realised is that Haye says most things tongue in cheek but some because of their lack of knowledge of the fighter take everything literally.

So I would put it down to some peoples ignorance and lack of boxing knowledge.

Anyway Haye seemed very popular at the o2 Arena last time out and as my mate said he's now got 20,000 fans Welsh and English cos he was sensational.

I disagree I have followed haye since the amateurs and always like hes style of fighting and still do i always thought he could be a great heavyweight

I think Fraudly hasn't helped haye as soon as the spotlight was on him he went from nice guy to prick overnight

Haye could do massive things at heavyweight and I hope he does but if he keeps calling every other fighter bums who dont deserve to be in the ring with him when he isn't actually fighting any of them he is 22-1 he should be fighting every other month

The most important thing for Haye to do it pick a fighter and have a fight

Then he can talk all the shit he wants, tounge in cheek or not

[sonny78]

I can respect the guys talent, enjoy to watch him in the ring and still think he is a prick! its allowed

[Mar]

I like haye, i actually think a lot of boxing fans do (most casual fans have no clue who he is) he's exciting in the ring so on and so forth. It's what he doing now especially in comparison to what he's done that people don't like not so much him. I think a lot of people are sick of hearing from the guy instead of seeing him.

[Markusdarkus]

Because Haye isnt American its that simple.

Although the crazy love for Wlad stateside had Haye been Russian hed be ok.

Haye is great for boxing.

I can assure you there is no crazy love for Klit stateside, as a matter of fact I cant remember a Heavyweight champ since Larry Holmes that is more scutinized than Klit, and IMO its rightfully so

Just a feeling i got on forums.

I can also understand why people wouldnt like Haye on both sides of the pond.

Horse for courses i just think its what the HW division needs and of course he will win a strap weather he beats Wlad i dont know.

[porkypara]

Like him or loath him he got people talking about the big men again.

Thats why I like him by the way.

[Markusdarkus]

Like him or loath him he got people talking about the big men again.

Thats why I like him by the way.

Good man, a bacon switch on me!