Sugar Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Felix Trinidad,
Thats the only 3 that are coming to mind at the moment can you think of anymore ?
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Sugar Ray Robinson, Thomas Hearns, Felix Trinidad,
Thats the only 3 that are coming to mind at the moment can you think of anymore ?
I doubt anyone could stop him at WW UD yes, but Cotto didnt even make him blink
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Originally Posted by ssss
Uhhhh Maybe a young Mike Tyson...Margarito on the night of the Cotto fight was nearly indestructible. Thats the stuff legends and movies are made of.
If it could have been done, I'd say Hearns would have been the one. His power at WW was insane with that cobra strike of a straight right hand.
good list i think roberto duran would be able to aswellQuote:
Originally Posted by ssss
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Love Trinidad through career....but I do not see him stopping Margarito.Much faster but he hi,self would have some very vulnerable moments.
i think he would have, both fighters are similar as in that neither are fast starters, i'd say that both have great stamina, as Trinidad proved through out his career, but speed, power, and a stiffer jab, imo would have helped Trinidad bust him up, and probably win off a swelling stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Agreed on the speed=power asset for Tito.Im thinking Tony starts fast here as Tito was suseptible in the early stages.While Tito was dropped quite a few ,It was always telling the way he just sort of popped up to resume the battle with minimal effects and walked in.I think Trinidads downfall would be his so-so ability at fighting while backing up,he could juke off the sides well but Margarito would be on him like a smothering blanket from mass angels and while he would catch some his volume and power would keep Tito in check.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi think he would have, both fighters are similar as in that neither are fast starters, i'd say that both have great stamina, as Trinidad proved through out his career, but speed, power, and a stiffer jab, imo would have helped Trinidad bust him up, and probably win off a swelling stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
I agree with you somewhat the early rounds would be the worry..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsAgreed on the speed=power asset for Tito.Im thinking Tony starts fast here as Tito was suseptible in the early stages.While Tito was dropped quite a few ,It was always telling the way he just sort of popped up to resume the battle with minimal effects and walked in.I think Trinidads downfall would be his so-so ability at fighting while backing up,he could juke off the sides well but Margarito would be on him like a smothering blanket from mass angels and while he would catch some his volume and power would keep Tito in check.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi think he would have, both fighters are similar as in that neither are fast starters, i'd say that both have great stamina, as Trinidad proved through out his career, but speed, power, and a stiffer jab, imo would have helped Trinidad bust him up, and probably win off a swelling stoppageQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
not that i think tito would be in too much trouble but if tony kept up the volume after a knockdown it might result in a stoppage just for the sheer pressure.. He wouldnt generally have to be hurt or be a good stoppage..
otherwise i think tito would do it big later on in the fight..
Thing is naturally tony tends to start a little slower and such so boxing for the first couple rounds tito gets a rythym and it'd be war later but i have tito
I don't think SRR or Trinidad would have stopped him. Both of those guys would have won decisions IMO, particularily SRR who was smart enough to know that with a guy like that, cruising to a decision would be your best bet.
Hearns would be more apt to bang with Marg and thus more likely to stop him IMO.
I hear you but I think Titos moxie and confidence would get the better of him and keep him walking forward through out the fight,selling out for the power,leaving him very vulnerable as Margarito is known to get stronger down the stretch.Tito would be wise to Box,box & more box Imo ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHBI agree with you somewhat the early rounds would be the worry..Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsAgreed on the speed=power asset for Tito.Im thinking Tony starts fast here as Tito was suseptible in the early stages.While Tito was dropped quite a few ,It was always telling the way he just sort of popped up to resume the battle with minimal effects and walked in.I think Trinidads downfall would be his so-so ability at fighting while backing up,he could juke off the sides well but Margarito would be on him like a smothering blanket from mass angels and while he would catch some his volume and power would keep Tito in check.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
not that i think tito would be in too much trouble but if tony kept up the volume after a knockdown it might result in a stoppage just for the sheer pressure.. He wouldnt generally have to be hurt or be a good stoppage..
otherwise i think tito would do it big later on in the fight..
Thing is naturally tony tends to start a little slower and such so boxing for the first couple rounds tito gets a rythym and it'd be war later but i have tito
I would give Felix Trinidad a great chance of stopping Antonio Margarito as good as Antonio Margarito's chin is............
I've just been watching some of Felix Trinidad's early Welterweight title defences and he was an animal when he got warmed up no one could survive that left hook in my opinion.
Charlie Burley ;D
I all honesty, probably HEarns could have done it. I also see Hagler being able to finish off an entire fight plan that Cotto was attempting but then again he did like to war so maybe would have run into the same problem.
I don't think any of them except Ray Robinson.Tommy Hearns do we remember Ray Leonard.He wheathered the storm and knocked Tommy out seems like what happened last week,Tito as much as I do like Tito I can't think of one person he constantly came forward throwing as many punches.I think Tito would have been knocked down more than once early in the fight and would not recover.Only to finish with a lobsided desicion. As for Ray Robinson the fastest mand on two leg's in the ring.I think would have danced in circles and constantly beat MArgarito to the punch much like he did against another straight forward in Lamotta 5 out of 6 times. Margarito is the real deal in my mind folks. I believe he can beat anyone in or around the welter's.
I think they could outpoint him but i don't think anyone could stop him.
Oscar....
Herans if anyone.
Probably no one though.
Youd probably have to look at Light-Middleweights... some one like Terry Norris or a Young Gerald McLeanan for a slight chance of a stoppage.
Welter Hearns and Tito possibly but if they could not they would go for the decision. Maybe peak Curry and Lloyd Honeyghan??
I couldn't imagine anyone at 147 stopping him.
Mike Tyson, Lennox of the Lewis and maybe Corrie Sanders
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'You know how fans get. ANy of them should watch Tito's videos at WWQuote:
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Thay would beat Margerito:rolleyes:Quote:
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So would Bigfoot, Chewbacca and Godzilla.
I think they meant fighters in the same weight class:)
Bigfoot, Chwie and Godzilla would be too heavy not same class of waitQuote:
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Originally Posted by plopeaterThay would beat Margerito:rolleyes:Quote:
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So would Bigfoot, Chewbacca and Godzilla.
I think they meant fighters in the same weight class:)
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So would Bigfoot, Chewbacca and Godzilla.
I think they meant fighters in the same weight class:)
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i cant see why people are treating margarito as if he is some sort of indestructable god - daniel santos anyone ??
tito would stop him as would hearns, SRR obviously and maybe a prime DLH
Margarito that fought Cotto on Saturday was as close to indestructable as you can get he took 6 rounds of punishment and kept jogging forward.Quote:
i cant see why people are treating margarito as if he is some sort of indestructable god - daniel santos anyone ??
tito would stop him as would hearns, SRR obviously and maybe a prime DLH
One thing he did show was that he was very beatable if you box him cleverly I think most of the fighters mentioned could beat him, but still cant see anyone stopping him
This thread is kind of diminishing Margarito's great, great win the other night. I mean I know being a huge Cotto fan that it SUCKS he got beat and beaten up badly at that. But lets give Margarito respect, he is a tremendous fighter and the absolute best 147 lber in the world today.
Not including retired fighters.
The first man that comes to mind who would stop Margarito, well two men actually, are "The Hitman" Tommy Hearns and "Sugar" Rey Leonard.
But I'd pretty much pick them to stop almost any welterweight who ever lived.
ye but i dont personally think cotto hits that hard, his an accumulation puncher not a one punch ko artist, and when your boxing of the back foot as he was it was near impossible for him to stop margarito the way he would with most other fighters. wereas the likes of tito, hearns etc could hit stupidlly hard , and i dont care how good his chin is , the human body can only take a certain force to the head before it will shut down to protect itself
Hearns is arguably the hardest hitter to ever grace the welterweight division. His power could have penetrated Margarito's chin. Plus we all saw how Paul Williams height and boxing ability gave Tony trouble, albeit his tying up and constant throwing of punches himself helped too.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Just thought of another powerhouse at welterweight, Henry Armstrong!
Now I bet he coulda hurt Margarito.
Shows how good of fighter Margarito has become though, that we have to sit here and think up literally LEGENDS, to find someone who could stop him.
hearns was a freak of nature thou he was still stopping people at cruiserweight !!Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkHearns is arguably the hardest hitter to ever grace the welterweight division. His power could have penetrated Margarito's chin. Plus we all saw how Paul Williams height and boxing ability gave Tony trouble, albeit his tying up and constant throwing of punches himself helped too.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Just thought of another powerhouse at welterweight, Henry Armstrong!
Now I bet he coulda hurt Margarito.
Shows how good of fighter Margarito has become though, that we have to sit here and think up literally LEGENDS, to find someone who could stop him.
he has an iron chin but his definatley beatable, and to me a loss is a loss by ko or points
I don't know if this was towards me or not but I don't think Margarito is a indestructible god. I just don't think he could be STOPPED by any of the welterweight's except Ray Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhatton
Burley kod Heavyweights and L/heavys World Class ones to while weigthing 10/10 and Tony wouldnt have hit him with a Handfull of Rice ;D
I'm pretty sure Tito would be capable of stopping him. Probably not KO him but hurt him enough to cause a stoppage. NOTE I said capable...
Same for the rest. Margarito's performance last Saturday was indeed something of legends but he is just way too hitable to be unstopable.
Roy Jones was an harder puncher than both at LMW in my opinion. I think Hearns would have KO'd him. The way Marg fights he just takes far too much punishment to the head and the accumulation of Hearns "BIG" shots bouncing off your had constantly would knock anyone out. People used to say Duran was damn near impossible to KO and look what Tommy did there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimafee