Like it or not it looks like it is going to happen.:-\
Also we will all watch it even though perhaps we should not.:-X
So,who is going to win?:confused:
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Like it or not it looks like it is going to happen.:-\
Also we will all watch it even though perhaps we should not.:-X
So,who is going to win?:confused:
Pac doesn't belong at 147.
I expect DLH to stop him.
I wont vote until it is official but I will be rooting for the little guy :)
Oscar by KO
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Originally Posted by Danny_G
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Probably ODLH, but you never know with Pac. He's a tough little bastard.
At first I think ODLH but then I remember how he got caught and marked up by steve Phorbes who is not and never was half the fighter that the Pac-man is.
I think Pac-mans speed and boxing skills could be a big factor here.I know he will never be a Wille Pep but he boxed well in his last fight and it could give old man Oscar a few problems.
INTERESTING!:rolleyes:
I thought Oscar looked "old" (understandably) against Forbes.
It seems an unrealistic weight jump for Pac but if he's still in the fight after halfway, Oscar will get tired, so who knows :-\
Oscar KO.
I think Pac will be leading om points when ODLH catches him and stops him about rd8
At first look the only choice that would seem to make sense would be oscar....but it's weird how confident roach is in pac beating him, almost like he saw something in training oscar that pac can easily take advantage of....i just don't see it myself but i like longshots. If it were my money i'd put it on oscar, if it were someone else's i'd take the strech and put it on pac.
DLH should be ashamed of himself....Baiting a guy who has only recently jumped to 135 to skip another 2 weight classes to fight him so he can say he fought the #1P4P fighter...Bit of a catch 22 no?
11 parts scumbag, 11 parts sham.....
I hope Manny is waaaayyyy too fast for him and makes DLH look silly, it would be crazy to tery and trade too much size difference....
Is it just me or does anyone else believe Margarito could have made time for a DLH bout if Oscar was so set on fighting at 147.....
As my Grandmother used to say actions speak louder then words......DLH just told the world he did not want another ass kicking on his resume so he found the smallest guy with the best resume possible.....
I hope he realizes even with the weight jump Manny hits harder then Forbes
If ODLH fought Margarito and/or Cotto, people would still be complaining for one reason or the other. And if he beat one of them or both, oh my goodness! Imagine how sour this place would be.Quote:
Is it just me or does anyone else believe Margarito could have made time for a DLH bout if Oscar was so set on fighting at 147.....
The only ass kicking I remember was when he was brave enough to go up and fight Hopkins, loosing by KO. Other than that, I don't remember seeing a fight where he was about to be saved by his corner or something to say that he doesn't want ANOTHER ass kicking. If people are comparing PAC with Forbes (punching power, speed, experience, etc.) and seeing PAC as a better fighter then the fight shouldn't be thaaaaaaaat bad after all, huh?Quote:
DLH just told the world he did not want another ass kicking on his resume so he found the smallest guy with the best resume possible.....
Oscar's just too big for Manny.
People would be complaining about him fighting Marg or Cotto? I don't think so. WHy would they complain about him fighting the #1 WW in the world as opposed to fighting someone who belongs no where NEAR WW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Believe me, people would still complain for one reason or the other. I go back to the Forbes fight when it was being talked about "Oh my gawd, ODLH is terrible! Who in their right mind would pay for that fight?! This is insane!" and then it was announced the fight would be FREE and tickets for the stadium would be cheap and what happened?...PEOPLE STILL CRIED ABOUT IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerPeople would be complaining about him fighting Marg or Cotto? I don't think so. WHy would they complain about him fighting the #1 WW in the world as opposed to fighting someone who belongs no where NEAR WW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
There's a boxer or two that I dislike, for example, Floyd Mayweather Jr. I can't stand him! But that doesn't blind me from seeing how GREAT of a boxer he is. Also, I like ODLH but that doesn't blind me from seeing how he's passed his prime and has shown certain weaknesses/flaws in his last years of boxing.
de la hoya too big. but if he tires late on who knows. id prefer de la hoya v margarito though
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Originally Posted by Phil
I see a similar scenario . I duno if Pac will be leading but he will certainly be in the fight darting in and out. His speed will help him be elusive early on and his footwork will make the older man look slower but when the pace settles and natural size and strength starts to take its toll , thats when I think Oscar will get him . It may be abit like the Oscar - Hopkins fight . Ive seen Pac decked from body shots before and I think in about 8 or 9 rounds De La Hoya will find a left hook to the body
Pacs enthusiasm will be leaving him at this point when he realises the size of the task and a body shot will give him the excuse he needs to sit it out .
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I agree with everything said here.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerPeople would be complaining about him fighting Marg or Cotto? I don't think so. WHy would they complain about him fighting the #1 WW in the world as opposed to fighting someone who belongs no where NEAR WW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Pac started at 106 and Oscar won a title as high as 160. Pac started the year at 130 and will end the year fighting at 147?!?! Those numbers are just way too big of an advantage for Oscar.
Oscar has a height and reach advantage. Not to mention his boxing skills are superior to Manny's. Pacquiao would have to have an edge in power but he doesn't have that against Oscar. It took Manny 9 rounds to knockout a 135 pound fighter who he hit with everything he had and any point he wanted to. How much would it take to hurt Oscar who's been hit by Middleweights?! This means Manny will have to rely on speed and speed alone.
I posted this on another thread but I think it will also work for this one as well.
HATTON VS PACMAN is the one we all want to see at 140lb!It would be a fooking class fight.Next year over here in england at the new Wembley with 100,000 spectators!!NOW THAT WOULD BE A FIGHT THAT EVERYONE WOULD WATCH!!!!YOU KNOW IM RIGHT!!!!!:p
You my friend are correct!Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
I hope Manny boxes his head off for twelve rounds. Probably Oscar stops him though.
ODLH fan here but I gotta go with the younger and faster Pac.
My hearts with Oscar but my mind tells me Pac.
Gotta go with the logic and say Pac.
Of course I'm rooting for PAC but not only that, I actually thinks he can win this one...
Younger, faster, stronger, hungrier boxer usually wins...
A quote from Pacquiao in a recent news article:
"Pacquiao made a bold prediction, that he would beat De La Hoya in the fashion as he did David Diaz back in June to capture the WBC title at 135. He believes his speed will the main factor to achieve victory. He doesn’t believe De La Hoya is the stronger man."
"This fight, I know everybody thought this will be a difficult fight for me. I know some people say that it’s a very easy fight for Oscar, but you know what - I always do my job in the ring and do my best to give a good fight and I think I can beat De La Hoya,” Pacquiao said."
“I think I am faster and stronger than him and I’m younger and also I think that I can beat him in the way that I beat Diaz in the last fight. I think the point is - my speed is going to win this fight. Oscar De La Hoya has the advantage in height, he’s taller than me, but I believe that I am stronger than him. It’s going to be a great fight on December 6.”
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I don't for one second think Manny is stronger than OscarQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
This to me is like ODLH just justified all the bad shit people have been saying about him fighting smaller guys....he really wants to end like that? I didn't think much of him anyway but now he really annoys me. I'll be rooting for Pac to win, but I picked ODLH for obvious reasons....Maybe Pacquiao is getting close to hanging em up and wants to cash in.
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Originally Posted by ChinoBelieve me, people would still complain for one reason or the other. I go back to the Forbes fight when it was being talked about "Oh my gawd, ODLH is terrible! Who in their right mind would pay for that fight?! This is insane!" and then it was announced the fight would be FREE and tickets for the stadium would be cheap and what happened?...PEOPLE STILL CRIED ABOUT IT!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerPeople would be complaining about him fighting Marg or Cotto? I don't think so. WHy would they complain about him fighting the #1 WW in the world as opposed to fighting someone who belongs no where NEAR WW?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
There's a boxer or two that I dislike, for example, Floyd Mayweather Jr. I can't stand him! But that doesn't blind me from seeing how GREAT of a boxer he is. Also, I like ODLH but that doesn't blind me from seeing how he's passed his prime and has shown certain weaknesses/flaws in his last years of boxing.
People complained about the Forbes fight because he was a virtual unknown who had no power and wasn't really given a chance of winning. If he fought Cotto or Marg I very much doubt people would have anything to complain about.
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
If Pac thinks he's the stronger man than he has his head so far up his ass that daylight must be a myth to him, and he's going to get KO'd very brutally.
I guess I'm in the majority (76% so far). I voted Oscar.
I believe Oscar will win.
But I.....
WANT
....Pac to win.
Yes this is highly debatable but Freddie Roach could precisely say who's the stronger boxer of the two since Roach was able to hold the mitts infront of these two boxers... ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KelI don't for one second think Manny is stronger than OscarQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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Remember what Roach said after he trained DLH? He said Pac has more Pop than DLH. He knows what he's talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYes this is highly debatable but Freddie Roach could precisely say who's the stronger boxer of the two since Roach was able to hold the mitts infront of these two boxers... ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by KelI don't for one second think Manny is stronger than OscarQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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think oscar wins by decision if he can manhandle pac which is quite expected but i can never pick against my boy and honestly i think pac has it in him to pull it off if he manages to avoid oscar's bombs. i see oscar possibly fading late in the fight.
I knew that... ;) but didn't mentioned it before this fight was signed and sealed... :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacdbest2Remember what Roach said after he trained DLH? He said Pac has more Pop than DLH. He knows what he's talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerYes this is highly debatable but Freddie Roach could precisely say who's the stronger boxer of the two since Roach was able to hold the mitts infront of these two boxers... ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Kel
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Saddo,
So you think Pac can win, right?
Yes... PAC has lot of advantages over Oscar... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
link: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ht-thread.html
I smell a big upset. I'd say Pac by late TKO! Of course that's a wishful thinking on my part. One thing is for sure though, this will be more exciting than PBF vs ODLH.
I think Manny will win a SD in a very tough fight, maybe getting knocked down in the early rounds.
I think Pac-Man will out hustle ODLH to win by a ud.
SAme with me. I can't go against my boy regardless of what I think.:cool: PAC by points.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKisser
Of course it will be. When you have Manny in the ring, it sure is exciting.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by narsman
So true... seconded... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeOf course it will be. When you have Manny in the ring, it sure is exciting.:cool:Quote:
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