"Hopkins to Pavlik: Beware the 'Executioner'
Hopkins to Pavlik: Beware the 'Executioner'
Posted by Joe Maxse October 08, 2008 17:42PM
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports_imp...likhorizbm.jpgBebeto Matthews/AP file photoKelly Pavlik (left) and Bernard Hopkins are both projecting confidence as their Oct. 18 bout in Atlantic City approaches.
Kelly Pavlik and Bernard Hopkins did not cross lines during separate media conference calls on Thursday. But the fighters did not shy away from taking a few shots while hyping their non-title bout in Atlantic City, N.J., on Oct. 18. "Kelly Pavlik is a perfect opponent for me," proclaimed Hopkins (48-5-1, 32 KOs), who was training in Miami. "He comes forward and he's coming to knock me out early. But he only has one bullet in the chamber. If he thinks he is going to knock me out with a right hand, he is a damn fool."
The veteran middleweight and light heavyweight champion gave Pavlik his props, but was also quick to point out that at his age, 43, he has all the experience in the world. According to Hopkins, the 26-year-old Pavlik has not met the quality of opponents listed on Hopkins' 20-year ring resume.
"I respect Kelly Pavlik because he came up through the era in his own way," said Hopkins, who referred to Pavlik's home town as Columbus instead of Youngstown. "I recognize that I have to make it a long punishing fight for him. He's not going to run. But he will fall into the hands of the 'Executioner.'"
Pavlik (34-0, 30 KOs) will not have his WBC/WBO middleweight titles at stake, as this one has been set for the catch weight of 170 pounds. Going 10 pounds over the middleweight limit will not be a problem according to Pavlik, and neither will any below-the-belt tactics from the older fighter.
"I'm not going to give him a chance to get a hold on me," said Pavlik, finishing camp in Youngstown. "He's never fought a guy with my size and strength. If he tries to start roughhousing, it goes both ways."
Pavlik said he has not been slowed by an injured left elbow. Hurt while sparring a month ago, he said the elbow is not an issue.
"It was a little bruise," he said. "Nothing a little ice didn't fix."
Hopkins, who lost his first professional bout in Atlantic City Oct. 11, 1988, admitted this could be his last ring appearance.
"I'm not putting the cart in front of the horse," said Hopkins. "People are going to see an expert at his craft. Enjoy me while I'm here. I'm going to enjoy Oct. 18. Bernard Hopkins will show he is one of the greats."
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"I will never lose to a whiteboy.......again."
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"I will never lose to a whiteboy.......again."
In my opinion he hasnt.
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As much as I hate his style, Hopkins is a legend. Getting in the ring with Pavlik is brave and he has a change going by the Calzaghe fight. The guy has always faced the best fighters available to him.
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"I will never lose to a whiteboy.......again."
In my opinion he hasnt.
agree, but he could very well lose to one for real on the 18th
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As much as I hate his style, Hopkins is a legend. Getting in the ring with Pavlik is brave and he has a change going by the Calzaghe fight. The guy has always faced the best fighters available to him.
Hopkins is a legend no doubt about that, but at 43 years young how much as he got left he will probly fiddle his way, through another fight,as he did against Calzaghi, Pavlik may just be there at the right time, i think its a good 50-50 fight,
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Anyone not giving B-Hop good odds in this is just foolish. Pavlik is the type of fighter B-Hop can exploit. He is pretty predictable sometimes. I don't think he can really hurt Pavlik too bad though. Pavlik's workrate will pull him through just like Calzaghe. B-Hop is going to make Pavlik pay every time he throws that right....he kind of brings it back slow and low. Pavlik will need to mix up more punches for sure. I think Kelly is gonna win a clear points victory though.
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Yes this will be the second white boy to beat him. In my opinion.
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Pff Calzaghe didn't beat him, and Pavlik has a lot more on his plate then 90% of this forum thinks he does. This is a nightmare matchup for Pavlik, and you will see why on the 18th, He might still win, but this is the worst fight a limited mover like Kelly could take.
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Funny that people 'swear' calzaghe lost, i coulda sworn that i saw calzaghe win a split decission. Also the boxrec records say that calzaghe won a split decission aswell.:confused:
They also say he has won 45, lost 0 and drawn 0 aswell:confused:
Hmmm, maybe im imagining that boxrec is saying that and imagining that calzaghe wasnt awarded a split decission?:rolleyes:
As for this fight, i think hopkins will be trouble for pavlik as hes extremely experienced, but i cant see him hurting pavlik. I can only see pavlik keep going via persistance and either win a points decission or a very late stoppage.
If hopkins stamina goes in this fight like it did in the calzaghe fight where he looked like he wasnt gonna last much longer in the ring because he could barely stand, having to pretend he was hit with low blows that hurt him so that he could rest and recupperate whilst trying to take in as much oxygen as possible (gasping for air for the full 5 minutes of rest period)...then how the hell is he gonna stay on his feet with pavlik for the last few rounds?
The only chance bhop has is if he uses his tricks and makes it another boring fight to watch by constant clinching and manages to frustrate pavlik (which he can do).
Bhop shouldnt be called the 'executioner', he should be called the 'frustrater';):)
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Funny that people 'swear' calzaghe lost, i coulda sworn that i saw calzaghe win a split decission. Also the boxrec records say that calzaghe won a split decission aswell.:confused:
They also say he has won 45, lost 0 and drawn 0 aswell:confused:
Hmmm, maybe im imagining that boxrec is saying that and imagining that calzaghe wasnt awarded a split decission?:rolleyes:
As for this fight, i think hopkins will be trouble for pavlik as hes extremely experienced, but i cant see him hurting pavlik. I can only see pavlik keep going via persistance and either win a points decission or a very late stoppage.
If hopkins stamina goes in this fight like it did in the calzaghe fight where he looked like he wasnt gonna last much longer in the ring because he could barely stand, having to pretend he was hit with low blows that hurt him so that he could rest and recupperate whilst trying to take in as much oxygen as possible (gasping for air for the full 5 minutes of rest period)...then how the hell is he gonna stay on his feet with pavlik for the last few rounds?
The only chance bhop has is if he uses his tricks and makes it another boring fight to watch by constant clinching and manages to frustrate pavlik (which he can do).
Bhop shouldnt be called the 'executioner', he should be called the 'frustrater';):)
shut up:mad: lil scott stiener
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Hopkins goes 1-1 with elite white boys. Well Pavlik is very good not quite elite yet.
Pavlik too limited in what he does, too ploddy and has zero variation jab jab straight right hand.
Hopkins to scupper my dreams of Calzaghe obliterating him by taking a clear up, by 3rds.
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Pff Calzaghe didn't beat him, and Pavlik has a lot more on his plate then 90% of this forum thinks he does. This is a nightmare matchup for Pavlik, and you will see why on the 18th, He might still win, but this is the worst fight a limited mover like Kelly could take.
Calzaghe clearly won that fight.
How can you score it for a guy that didnt want to fight and act like a girl?
115-112 Calzaghe maybe wider.
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Pff Calzaghe didn't beat him, and Pavlik has a lot more on his plate then 90% of this forum thinks he does. This is a nightmare matchup for Pavlik, and you will see why on the 18th, He might still win, but this is the worst fight a limited mover like Kelly could take.
Calzaghe clearly won that fight.
How can you score it for a guy that didnt want to fight and act like a girl?
115-112 Calzaghe maybe wider.
then how the hell can u score it for a guy that fights like a girl.
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Pff Calzaghe didn't beat him, and Pavlik has a lot more on his plate then 90% of this forum thinks he does. This is a nightmare matchup for Pavlik, and you will see why on the 18th, He might still win, but this is the worst fight a limited mover like Kelly could take.
Calzaghe clearly won that fight.
How can you score it for a guy that didnt want to fight and act like a girl?
115-112 Calzaghe maybe wider.
then how the hell can u score it for a guy that fights like a girl.
Been drinking much?
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Calzaghe clearly won that fight.
How can you score it for a guy that didnt want to fight and act like a girl?
115-112 Calzaghe maybe wider.
then how the hell can u score it for a guy that fights like a girl.
Been drinking much?
dude almost everyone here agrees joe slaps like a girl playing with butterflies
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then how the hell can u score it for a guy that fights like a girl.
Been drinking much?
dude almost everyone here agrees joe slaps like a girl playing with butterflies
Hopkins didn't do enough to win. End of Story. If Calzaghe slapped, why didn't Hopkins walk through them or throw effective counter punches? He just sat there like a lame duck. That is why he lost the fight.
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Been drinking much?
dude almost everyone here agrees joe slaps like a girl playing with butterflies
Hopkins didn't do enough to win. End of Story. If Calzaghe slapped, why didn't Hopkins walk through them or throw effective counter punches? He just sat there like a lame duck. That is why he lost the fight.
I feel the same way if Calzaghe slaps why wouldn't Bernard have walked through them. Hopkins does what he does talks alot of shit,then fight time comes throw's 1 or 2 punches in which land clearly in the round and pisses and moans when the desicion goes the other way. Taylor beat him twice from 4 out of 6 judges. Calzaghe also beat him 2 out of 3 judges. Somehow this guy still get's all the kudos that he has been unbeaten since Roy Jones. I just don't get it. He is the most boring fighter of our era and a close second is Winky. I just most not know boxing at all. To me you have to throw punches to win a fight not look good in the ring by your defensive capabilities. Maybe if Hopkins threw more than 20 punches a round I could give respect to him but I just can't at this point. Hopkins will be stopped in 8 rounds from Pavlik. One punch at a time will not do it against this fighter. Hopkins saying he won't be able to do it with a right hand.Well wasn't it the left uppercut that knocked Miranda down and a left hook over and over that knocked Taylor out in the corner.Sure the right hand set it up but his left hand is just as powerful.
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LondonBB
Funny that people 'swear' calzaghe lost, i coulda sworn that i saw calzaghe win a split decission. Also the boxrec records say that calzaghe won a split decission aswell.:confused:
They also say he has won 45, lost 0 and drawn 0 aswell:confused:
Hmmm, maybe im imagining that boxrec is saying that and imagining that calzaghe wasnt awarded a split decission?:rolleyes:
As for this fight, i think hopkins will be trouble for pavlik as hes extremely experienced, but i cant see him hurting pavlik. I can only see pavlik keep going via persistance and either win a points decission or a very late stoppage.
If hopkins stamina goes in this fight like it did in the calzaghe fight where he looked like he wasnt gonna last much longer in the ring because he could barely stand, having to pretend he was hit with low blows that hurt him so that he could rest and recupperate whilst trying to take in as much oxygen as possible (gasping for air for the full 5 minutes of rest period)...then how the hell is he gonna stay on his feet with pavlik for the last few rounds?
The only chance bhop has is if he uses his tricks and makes it another boring fight to watch by constant clinching and manages to frustrate pavlik (which he can do).
Bhop shouldnt be called the 'executioner', he should be called the 'frustrater';):)
Look in boxrec and it'll tell you
Joe Bugner beat Henry Cooper.... he didnt. It'll tell you Holyfield fought a draw with Lewis.... he didnt he got his ass kicked
BoxRec publishes the judges verdict whether its right or wrong.
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Hopkins did good for an old guy but watch his first ten fights. He was a fighting machine back then. In his last ten fights he's been a holding machine.
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Taeth
Pff Calzaghe didn't beat him, and Pavlik has a lot more on his plate then 90% of this forum thinks he does. This is a nightmare matchup for Pavlik, and you will see why on the 18th, He might still win, but this is the worst fight a limited mover like Kelly could take.
Calzaghe clearly won that fight.
How can you score it for a guy that didnt want to fight and act like a girl?
115-112 Calzaghe maybe wider.
then how the hell can u score it for a guy that fights like a girl.
Hahahahaha. Fukin great. Thats funny
