could calzaghe ever compete with this ?(roy jones jr in his prime)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnMXzgeZo

i love calzaghe but fuck me this boy was class

No he couldn't.

Nope.

Dont get me wrong I think Joe is a very good fighter infact I think he is currently the top p4p boxer in the world but a prime Roy Jones is possibly the greatest boxer ever.

nope jones will abuse, punish, and do illegal things to calzaghe.

....RJJ beating (by KO hopefully) Calzaghe would be one of the sweetest things that could happen in boxing right now

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDWnMXzgeZo

i love calzaghe but fuck me this boy was class

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That video was amazing

He fought scared vs Tarver but in his last fight he seemed to get his swagger and arrogance back vs Tito . I wonder if we will see more of his showboating next week . It would be fantastic if he could trun back the clock and dazzle again but Ive gotta go with Calzaghe

A prime RJJ would do bad things to calzage the fact he can take the ring with calzage almost a decade after his prime speaks volumes about him considering how good calzage is

Calzaghe's fast but he gets caught with shots he shouldn't get caught with. I don't think he could beat a prime roy, then again who really could? That's not to say roy would have an easy night, cause calzaghe's output is so big I don't think anyone is going to ever have an easy time with him.

Calzaghe can't beat a 100% peak Jones and he knows it himself.

okay the question is,
will calzaghe compete with roy now if he boxes an amazing last fight ?
i think this will be a cracker both of them going all out to cement their legacys and end on a good one i think it will be a draw

All i will say is both at there best Calzaghe is just good enough to clean Roy's boots.;);D

but there not both at their best

Calzaghe wouldn't go 5 rounds with a prime Roy Jones jr....he still might not!

I remember laughing uncontrollably watching Jones beat up Pazienza.....it was just that funny.

Honestly,I don't think Calzaghe would have touched a prime Jones.Forget about it.BUT.....Roy is no where near his prime and has done very well resurecting himself over last 3 fights & lining this one up.

Like I already said joe most likely would not win, but I would bet my ass he'd go more than 5 rounds, I'm pretty dam sure he'd go the whole 12. I mean calzaghe would be one of the best fighters roy has faced, and roy would be the best fighter joe has faced. I know there are lots of people that discount what joe does and has done and deify roy, but to simply smirk and say joe wouldn't last 5 is really unwarranted. Joe has a solid enough chin and roy is fast but joe has enough speed himself to not get caught with everything roy would throw his way. There have been lesser fighters that have went 12 with a prime or near prime roy, I'm certain joe could do the same.

Joe is a great champion and a competitor, so he definitely would have competed with a prime Roy. But could he have beaten him? No, I don't think he could win more than 2-3 rounds at best.

Fantastic video.

Love me some prime Jones Jr.

A prime Roy takes Joe if not by mid/late TKO, then with scores along the lines of 10-2 (rds).

I think alot of folks chipped at Roy's legacy after the losses to Johnson and Tarver. But those of us that watched Roy come up know better. He was an absolute phenom at his peak and you, me , and everybody else hadn't ever seen anyone anything like him.

One of the most naturally gifted athletes in sports history.

Calzaghe will be lucky to beat an old roy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glsQwgz1fto

Non seqiutar! (sp)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYM5o3UvxQE

Roy would whip him, honestly IMO I think there are a few guys in their prime that would have beaten Calzaghe like
1. Roy
2. Michael Nunn
3. James Toney(I see this a 50/50 fight. but calzaghe would get hit by that right counter all night, and James hit hard at MW/SMW)
4. bernad hopkins
5. Maybe Gerald McClellan

i still think if jones fights a very good fight i think he will beat joe i hate to say it, tysonbruno and dark lord al will be chuffed

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I think most people would be chuffed no offense, but RJJ is a legend. When i was a little kid he used to be one of my hero's. He done alot for the sport and i would love to see him retire on top.

i think a great fight by both fighters ending in a draw would be nice

man, that guy was cold- but then, ego got to big, thought it would be prudent to pursue a rap career, and went to shit.

yet another reason for me to hate rap music.

I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

Roy Jones is sucking Calzaghe's left nut at this point.

And Calzaghe definitely doesn't ahve Toney's chin. Despite one weight drained fight against Reggie Johnson when has Toney ever been hurt all the way up to heavyweight? Calzaghe was hurt in his fight against Mitchell and he was hurt several times against Kessler, and he was hurt several times against Hopkins. I agree he has a good chin, but it can't compare to Merqui Sosa's chin.

Bilbo, I didn't realize you loved Calzaghe to the point of open denile to the truth. Roy Jones Jr clearly would dominate Calzaghe. Calzaghe has made a living off being a little too quick for opponents to take advantage of his huge technical mistakes, I think he gets away with it against almost every fighter which makes him a great fighter in his own right, but a 43 year old Hopkins showed to a degree the gapping holes in Calzaghe's style. He is wide open to the right hand, he throws silly punches and he was lucky that Hopkins was gassed out because a prime Roy Jones Jr is countering Calzaghe consistently in situations that nobody else, even Bernard, would even realize what happened. Watch what Roy did to Reggie Johnson( a fast handed southpaw) when he tried to throw even a jab. Roy caught him with a beautiful left hook right cross combination that made you wonder what just happened. Calzaghe wouldn't be able to deal with it. Kessler was able to counter Calzaghe effectively, but he was there to be hit, yet guys like James Toney who is a great counter puncher had no answer for Roy Jones Jr's combinations, speed, and lateral movement.

All in All Roy would box circles around Joe.

If Calzaghe fought his very best fight at the height of his prime at 168 and Jones did the same Calzaghe would get embaressed, toyed with and Enzo would have a corinary......

At 168 Jones was just too damn good...Better then anyman should be

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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WRONG if u look at calzaghe in his prime he shows nothin special, but look at jones in his prime he str8 destroyed his opponents and made them look like sparring partners did joe do any of that NO.

and his chin is nothing like Hopkins or Toney, Joe has flash knockdowns as he showed against hopkins;) and the only time bhop has been down was agains Mercado and fought back to a draw AND has fought a PRIME roy jones, felix trinidad (feared power puncher), antonio tarver (who kod Jones) and kelly pavlik. Joe has NOT fought power punchers like Hopkins. EVER

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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WRONG if u look at calzaghe in his prime he shows nothin special, but look at jones in his prime he str8 destroyed his opponents and made them look like sparring partners did joe do any of that NO.

and his chin is nothing like Hopkins or Toney, Joe has flash knockdowns as he showed against hopkins;) and the only time bhop has been down was agains Mercado and fought back to a draw AND has fought a PRIME roy jones, felix trinidad (feared power puncher), antonio tarver (who kod Jones) and kelly pavlik. Joe has NOT fought power punchers like Hopkins. EVER

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Well you were about 10 years old when Jones was in his prime so really what do you know :rolleyes:

The fact is Jones Jr looked spectaculat beating up on largely ordinary fighters.

Don't get me wrong he's beaten some great fighters too but looking spectacular doesn't equal winning every fight.

I know some of you like to think he was God until for some reason his chin packed up in the rematch with Tarver but the truth is that Jones in his early days was technically flawed but so athletically gifted he could get away with it.

Calzaghe would have been faster than any fighter he ever faced and wouldn't have allowed Jones to get into a rythm.

Not saying Calzaghe would definitely win, but it's by means a blowout.

You don't get to be 45-0 and to unify all four title belts in a division without being incredibly good. Calzaghe at his best is not an easy fight for any man in the world, not even the mythically perfect fighter that was Roy Jones Jr.

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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WRONG if u look at calzaghe in his prime he shows nothin special, but look at jones in his prime he str8 destroyed his opponents and made them look like sparring partners did joe do any of that NO.

and his chin is nothing like Hopkins or Toney, Joe has flash knockdowns as he showed against hopkins;) and the only time bhop has been down was agains Mercado and fought back to a draw AND has fought a PRIME roy jones, felix trinidad (feared power puncher), antonio tarver (who kod Jones) and kelly pavlik. Joe has NOT fought power punchers like Hopkins. EVER

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Well you were about 10 years old when Jones was in his prime so really what do you know :rolleyes:

The fact is Jones Jr looked spectaculat beating up on largely ordinary fighters.

Don't get me wrong he's beaten some great fighters too but looking spectacular doesn't equal winning every fight.

I know some of you like to think he was God until for some reason his chin packed up in the rematch with Tarver but the truth is that Jones in his early days was technically flawed but so athletically gifted he could get away with it.

Calzaghe would have been faster than any fighter he ever faced and wouldn't have allowed Jones to get into a rythm.

Not saying Calzaghe would definitely win, but it's by means a blowout.

You don't get to be 45-0 and to unify all four title belts in a division without being incredibly good. Calzaghe at his best is not an easy fight for any man in the world, not even the mythically perfect fighter that was Roy Jones Jr.

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And excatly WTF my age has to do with any of this, NOTHING AT ALL and u shouldnt even bring up tarver since were talkin about SMWs anyway the FACT is a prime Roy jones at 168 would fukin rape JOE thats it joe doest have great defense like prime JAMES TONEY did and he was p4p 2 or 3 at the time and wat make u think he wont embarrASS joe like that hmm :rolleyes:

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.

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Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.

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I think it's kind of amusing the almost mythical status Jones Jr of a decade ago has.

Personally I think a prime Roy Jones versus a prime Joe Calzaghe is one hell of a matchup.

Jones would have to be favourite but those who think Calzaghe would get blown away in 5 rounds are just wishful thinking.

Calzaghe has never even lost a fight let alone been knocked out, his chin is as solid and proven as Hopkins or Jame Toney.

Whenever they fought it goes the distance imo and the fact is, as Roy Jones even says himself, he has never fought a fighter like Calzaghe either so we really don't know for sure what would happen.

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Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.

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Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.

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Actually people are saying jones is washed up NOW so im saying it before the fight and im saying it AFTER. and its well known Jones is past it anyway so u might as well get that out ur mind.

and tarver is that much older than jones maybe by a few months but thats it.

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Joe Calzaghe's chin as good as Hopkins, Toney ? i can't imagine either of those fighters being dropped like a sack against a mediocre puncher, like Kabary Salem.

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Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.

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Actually people are saying jones is washed up NOW so im saying it before the fight and im saying it AFTER. and its well known Jones is past it anyway so u might as well get that out ur mind.

and tarver is that much older than jones maybe by a few months but thats it.

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Jones was considered unbeatable until he lost, then he became 'shot'

It's similar to Mike Tyson but even worse. Whereas it's just clueless casual fans who think a prime Tyson was unbeatable and would have destroyed any fighter alive even serious fans of boxing seem to think that a prime Jones Jr could have made a fool out of every fighter who ever lived.

No doubt Jones at his peak was exceptionally good but nobody is unbeatable and nobody is the perfect fighter.

I'm not saying Calzaghe would beat Jones, but honestly a prime matchup would be a tough fight for both men.

And ultimately if Jones isn't able to adapt to his slowing years, and change his fight style to acomodate then as I said before it's a mark against him.

Nearly all truly great champs have overcome adversity and bounced back to win when not expected to, Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Duran, Foreman.

As it stands Jones was never able to avenge a loss, and never won a big fight after being defeated for the first time.

He has just as much to prove going into this fight as Joe imo.

And I really don't think Jones is shot either, he's slowed slightly and will have to fight more carefully now but he's still Roy Jones and Calzaghe himself is at the end of his career plagued with hand troubles.

This is going to be a great fight and whoever wins will deserve maximum respect.

Bilbo your being a dumbass, you are saying that we, because of age know, nothing. I for one have seen every Roy Jones Jr fight he has had as pro and many of his amateur fights. He is the first fighter who's whole career I have watched, and he didn't jsut beat largely ordinary fighters. James Toney, Montell Griffin, Mike MacCallum, Bernard Hopkins, Virgill Hill are not just ordinary fights. Even after that many of his opponents were champions or became champions. More importantly tt also the manner in which he beat them.

Roy Jones dominated the good fighers and the average fighers alike. They were all the same to him, yet Calzaghe was hot and cold, but even when he was hot, he never dominated comparably worse competition than Jones anywhere near to the same extent. Roy had the better competition in their respective primes, and he dominated that better competition far more thoroughly then Calzaghe EVER did.

Also you talking about Jones vs Tarver is mute. Jones beat Tarver handidly after coming down 15-20 pounds in muscle. When has Calzaghe ever delt with diversity anything like that? The second fight Jones was winning for what short amount of it they fought before he got caught by a huge counter punch. Let's see Calzaghe handle that same punch, but regardless Calzaghe has foughten largely weak competition up until his last two fights. He hasn't challenged himself the saem way Jones has. After the Tarver fight Roy has been gunshy, He lost so badly to Glen Johnson because he fought nothing like he did in his prime. It was a matter of him not adapting it was a matter of him fighting horribly. He didn't keep his hands up on the ropes, he didn't throw punches with mean intent. He didn't have any handspeed in that fight, and he didn't fight defensively at all. He underestimated Glen Johnson and payed a heavy price.

You make the argument that Joe has a good chin but to compare it to Toney's is dumb, he's been hurt way more then Toney by way weaker opponents. I said Toney was weight drained against Reggie Johnson.

Regardless Joe gets beat handidly by Roy, its Joe that wouldn't be able to get off because he would be getting countered nearly everytime he punched. Whereas his less spectacular speed(which Roy delt with in Reggie Johnson and young Hopkins) wouldn't be fast enough to bother Roy at all.

You know the reason Roy hasn't adapted as successfully as an old man? Because he didn't have to work as hard, opponents weren't able to do anything against him. That gives him marks because it means that in his prime he was so much better than guys like Joe Calzaghe that it has caused him problems as those abilities have diminished. They weren't as good so they needed to adapt.

All in all you ask anybody who knows anything about boxing and they will tell you prime Roy beats prime Joe by wide UD.

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Well Salem did kill a man in the ring so I'm guessing he's capable of doing some damage.

I don't recall Reggie Johnson being a knockout machine either.

But you're splitting hairs as usual Ice. The fact is Calzaghe has never been stopped in 45 fights and when he's been down he's always come back to win.

The only time he ever got hurt he got the guy out of there in the same round. His chin is proven, his talent is proven, his resume is proven.

It's funny that when he beats Jones you'll all say it's because Jones was washed up even though he's only 3 years older than Calzaghe and 4 years younger than Hopkins.

Tarver is older than Jones but I guess he only beat Jones becuase he's the fresher man right?

If Jones hasn't been able to adapt his style in the light of advancing age in the way that other great fighters have then it's marks off him I'm afraid.

He hasn't been in any ring wars that have taken their toll, he didn't get for the first 40 or so fights of his career. When he did we finally saw that he wasn't as invincible as we thought.

Don't get me wrong I love Roy Jones, the man's a legend but to assume he is so much better than Joe that he could whup in 5 rounds is just unrealistic. I know it wasn't you who said that......

Calzaghe would be a tough fight for Jones at any stage of his career.

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Actually people are saying jones is washed up NOW so im saying it before the fight and im saying it AFTER. and its well known Jones is past it anyway so u might as well get that out ur mind.

and tarver is that much older than jones maybe by a few months but thats it.

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Jones was considered unbeatable until he lost, then he became 'shot'

It's similar to Mike Tyson but even worse. Whereas it's just clueless casual fans who think a prime Tyson was unbeatable and would have destroyed any fighter alive even serious fans of boxing seem to think that a prime Jones Jr could have made a fool out of every fighter who ever lived.

No doubt Jones at his peak was exceptionally good but nobody is unbeatable and nobody is the perfect fighter.

I'm not saying Calzaghe would beat Jones, but honestly a prime matchup would be a tough fight for both men.

And ultimately if Jones isn't able to adapt to his slowing years, and change his fight style to acomodate then as I said before it's a mark against him.

Nearly all truly great champs have overcome adversity and bounced back to win when not expected to, Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Duran, Foreman.

As it stands Jones was never able to avenge a loss, and never won a big fight after being defeated for the first time.

He has just as much to prove going into this fight as Joe imo.

And I really don't think Jones is shot either, he's slowed slightly and will have to fight more carefully now but he's still Roy Jones and Calzaghe himself is at the end of his career plagued with hand troubles.

This is going to be a great fight and whoever wins will deserve maximum respect.

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The reason the guys that came back to win were able to was because they had great chins.

Foreman was being pummeled before he landed one punch.
Robinson was beaten by guys that wouldn't have lasted 6 rounds against him in his prime, but he had the chin to percevere.
If Leonard didn't have a great chin he wouldn't have lasted against Hagler who was landing hard shots on him

Leonard got his ass kicked by Terry Norris when he was 35, then by Camacho
Robinson got his ass kicked at the end of his career by Joey Archer( he was floored by a guy who had 8 ko's in his whole 60+ fight career)
So did Ali
So did Foreman by Tommy Morrison


Duran is the one example of a guy that you mentioned that came back and fought great when he was older, and guess what He was less naturally talented then any of the other guys. he didn't have Foreman's power or Leonard, Ali, or Robinson's speed. He had to go through adversity his whole career. But even Duran had a really good chin.

perfect example is Roy clearly beat Bernard with a broken right hand, but Bernard obviously handled adversity better as they got older, but that doesn't mean he beat Roy when they fought.

Jones can get it done this Saturday. Calzaghe has earned my respect these past few years but if Roy shows even half of the brilliance he did in his prime then he wins....I hope and believe he can.

The only thing about Roy is that he never fights for a knockout anymore. If he can land those sharp, crisp shots at speed like he did against Trinidad then it's goodnight JC. Joe is defensively vulnerable as we saw against Bhop and his dynamo workrate is pretty much his defence.

RJJ will fancy picking holes through the pitty pat punches. If he has him hurt he needs to finish it because Joe won't tire down the stretch.

I'm hoping for and predicting a legendary Roy Jones victory.

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Jones can get it done this Saturday. Calzaghe has earned my respect these past few years but if Roy shows even half of the brilliance he did in his prime then he wins....I hope and believe he can.

The only thing about Roy is that he never fights for a knockout anymore. If he can land those sharp, crisp shots at speed like he did against Trinidad then it's goodnight JC. Joe is defensively vulnerable as we saw against Bhop and his dynamo workrate is pretty much his defence.

RJJ will fancy picking holes through the pitty pat punches. If he has him hurt he needs to finish it because Joe won't tire down the stretch.

I'm hoping for and predicting a legendary Roy Jones victory.

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yea i fell Roy can land those hard right hands threw Calslappys slaps, but does roy know he can do it?

IMO on Saturday Roy has more to worry about than Calzaghe, people forget that Joe has respectable power when he actually throws punches properly. Therei s a reason he has 32 ko's, why Lacy and kessler felt his power. I think when Calzaghe throws combinations he tends to get slappy, but it effects his opponents as Kessler can atest to. I think I could see Roy getting ko'ed easier then I see Joe getting ko'ed simply because Roy couldn't stop Trinidad, not because he couldn't I guess, but because he doesn't back up his work anymore, he throws a few punches, but he can't step on the peddle after that, and against Joe that is big trouble because Kessler was able to outbox Calzaghe punch for punch earlier on, but everytime he did that Calzaghe would step up the pace and drown Kessler's effectiveness with his workrate.