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Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?
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FightFan: Freddie, what do you think about how their strengths match up? I’ve seen you hitting the mitts with Oscar and you hit the mitts with Manny all the time. How do you feel they size up to one another in that regard?
FreddieRoach: Manny hits much harder. There’s no doubt about it. We have the advantage when it comes to the punch and there’s no doubt about that in my mind. We’ve also got the edge in activity and speed and Oscar, well he can’t pull the trigger anymore.
Read the full article here:
Freddie Roach: Manny will stand and bang with Oscar! FightFan.com: Boxing News, Interviews, Articles, Videos, Results
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What did you expect Freddie to say? :dontknow:
Manny is his main meal ticket, do think that he would say that Oscar hits harder? Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
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As PAC's trainer, we expect Freddie to favor PAC but it's also fact that Freddie has the authority to assess both boxers' power since he was able to hold the mitts infront of these 2 boxers...
When Freddie was doing it for Hoya, it's years ago so it's also expected that Hoya's power further diminishes (compared to what Freddie felt years ago) due to aging while that of PAC still growing stronger...
It's reported that Victor Ortiz is currently sparring with Hoya and there were even rumours that Ortiz was mauling Hoya in sparring. Ortiz is also said to have sparred with PAC in the past and PAC is holding his own against the bigger Ortiz...
Ortiz is now a GBP boxer (formerly Top Rank). I hope he can proclaim that "Hoya hits harder than PAC" to even things up...
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Manny Does Not Hit Harder Than De La Hoya!!!
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;D
From the same interview/article:
FightFan: Can Manny afford to bang with Oscar? Can he stand in there and trade punches with him? I think back to some of the action fights he’s had where he gets hit and he clasps his gloves together above his head and invites guys on into a fire fight with him. Can he afford to do that with De La Hoya?
FreddieRoach: Yep.
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I'm very skeptical about this fight...but I hope all this talk that Freddie is saying comes true. I just can't see it!
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FightFan: Do you think the Mexicans are going to support Manny? I’m hearing a lot of rumblings about that.
Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.
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SaddoBoxer
As PAC's trainer, we expect Freddie to favor PAC but it's also fact that Freddie has the authority to assess both boxers' power since he was able to hold the mitts infront of these 2 boxers...
When Freddie was doing it for Hoya, it's years ago so it's also expected that Hoya's power further diminishes (compared to what Freddie felt years ago) due to aging while that of PAC still growing stronger...
It's reported that Victor Ortiz is currently sparring with Hoya and there were even rumours that Ortiz was mauling Hoya in sparring. Ortiz is also said to have sparred with PAC in the past and PAC is holding his own against the bigger Ortiz...
Ortiz is now a GBP boxer (formerly Top Rank). I hope he can proclaim that "Hoya hits harder than PAC" to even up things...
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If you actually believe that Freddie is not going to be biased, then you truly are delusional. Wait. Everyone already knows that to be the case.
Why bring up the Ortiz crap again, when it's already been discussed, and proven to be false. That rumor was started even before Oscar started sparring.
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Violent Ds Next Baby Mama
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
As PAC's trainer, we expect Freddie to favor PAC but it's also fact that Freddie has the authority to assess both boxers' power since he was able to hold the mitts infront of these 2 boxers...
When Freddie was doing it for Hoya, it's years ago so it's also expected that Hoya's power further diminishes (compared to what Freddie felt years ago) due to aging while that of PAC still growing stronger...
It's reported that Victor Ortiz is currently sparring with Hoya and there were even rumours that Ortiz was mauling Hoya in sparring. Ortiz is also said to have sparred with PAC in the past and PAC is holding his own against the bigger Ortiz...
Ortiz is now a GBP boxer (formerly Top Rank). I hope he can proclaim that "Hoya hits harder than PAC" to even up things...
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If you actually believe that Freddie is not going to be biased, then you truly are delusional. Wait. Everyone already knows that to be the case.
Why bring up the Ortiz crap again, when it's already been discussed, and proven to be false. That rumor was started even before Oscar started sparring.
Well I won't say Freddie is telling the truth and I won't say he's lying... We will have the answer to this come December 6...
I brought up Ortiz since he's the only common factor between PAC and Hoya (of course aside from Freddie who knows DelaHoya and PAC very well ;) )...
Ortiz sparred with PAC in the past and currently sparring with Hoya... Hoya is Ortiz' big boss so I hope he'll say some morale boosting words of support for his boss...
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LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
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LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
It won't be depressing for PAC fans if he loses this fight. PAC is expected to loss this fight so no big deal really...
But how sweet it is for PAC fans if PAC will do the unthinkable and defeats the giant Hoya? It will be a maddening celebration... ;D
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LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
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kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...
I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
Don't let that stop you. I haven't said anything consequential since my 48th post.
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C-Lo
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kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out,
I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats :(
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kingfrnk
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C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out,
I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats :(
The first Pacquiao vs Marquez fight made my family go nuts. At first we lost our minds the first round, then throughout each round, we were all like "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?" Then my dad and uncles started yelling at Manny on what to do through the TV.
I always thought people who gave instructions via yelling at the TV were dumbasses. THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU! But then the more I became a sports fan, the more I started to do the same...I think sometimes, it does work..
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Or worst story of all!!
My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..
I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...
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C-Lo
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Originally Posted by
kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
Maybe I could come to your house and watch some Pacquiao boxing in the future....;D;D;D
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C-Lo
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kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
Maybe I could come to your house and watch some Pacquiao boxing in the future....;D;D;D
Better hurry! He supposedly said he's going to retire in 2010...
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C-Lo
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brucelee
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C-Lo
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
Maybe I could come to your house and watch some Pacquiao boxing in the future....;D;D;D
Better hurry! He supposedly said he's going to retire in 2010...
Hehehe. I better watch it in my home coz I might get a heart attack during the fight.;D;D;D
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C-Lo
Or worst story of all!!
My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..
I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...
In the Philippines, after each Pacquiao fight there's news of a person or persons who died watching the fight. Mostly old people who died of heart attack due to too much excitement (the high and lows in a Pacquiao fight were too much for them to handle)...
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C-Lo
Or worst story of all!!
My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..
I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...
In the Philippines, after each Pacquiao fight there's news of a person or persons who died watching the fight. Mostly old people who died of heart attack due to too much excitement (the high and lows in a Pacquiao fight were too much for them to handle)...
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Not surprised! I think I'm gonna gain an attachment to a future fighter and die watching a fight too! OR watching a New York Jets game.
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Oscar should win this easy but like i said before i see him losing on purpose and making the way for a mayweather return against pacman for undiputed p for p no 1 which he will happen to promote and make millions from this fight is a set up for oscars retirement fund i can feel it
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Sorry for the double post but just realised if oscar wins i am gonna sound like a paranoid nutter LOL;D
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power is the last thing to go guys, speed is what goes first. Look at Foreman, lacked speed but power was still there.
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kingfrnk
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C-Lo
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kingfrnk
LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman :rolleyes:
I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out,
I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.
This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
wow...I started to rant a little bit.
(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)
not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats :(
The gay ass Giants there you go again. What did those gay ass giants do to the Pats? " WE STOMPED THEM OUT ". F**K the Pats. J/K.
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The fight comes down to de la hoya.. we know what pac is bringing..
if de la hoya can jab and connect, then manny has no chance.. but if dlh is gun shy and starts to get hit hard early, then he will be in a lot of trouble..
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Pac's right had is "harder" and his jab is more explosive. But a left hook is a left HOOK! Doesn't matter how strong you are, it's the body's ability to work together to put the best amount of torque and leverage into the punch to land a blow that a fighter can't see coming. Left hook is devastating, and de la Hoya has one!
He's going to land it too. Pacquiao's moving his head a lot for this fight. ;) If Pac can avoid that left, or at least make de la Hoya unbalanced, then he'll win, EASY.
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SaddoBoxer
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FightFan: Freddie, what do you think about how their strengths match up? I’ve seen you hitting the mitts with Oscar and you hit the mitts with Manny all the time. How do you feel they size up to one another in that regard?
FreddieRoach: Manny hits much harder. There’s no doubt about it. We have the advantage when it comes to the punch and there’s no doubt about that in my mind. We’ve also got the edge in activity and speed and Oscar, well he can’t pull the trigger anymore.
Read the full article here:
Freddie Roach: Manny will stand and bang with Oscar! FightFan.com: Boxing News, Interviews, Articles, Videos, Results
Have you been drinking from that little one's sippy cup again ???
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Roach already said it in the Past that a 130 lbs Pac has more Pop that the 154 lbs DLH. Well the fight is at 147, Pac becomes stronger while DLH will be Drained a bit. That's why I'm not surprised of what Roach's saying. No wonder Roach is so confident of Pac Chances.
So DLH just got his Left hook & Jab to relly on. Pac learned how to deal with Jab after his lost to Morales. Pac is not hittable with the Left hook anyway, so I'm not worried about it. MAB is the best Left hooker that Pac has fought. Look how dominant Pac against MAB?
I'm so Confident now about Pac Chances. It's time to Place my bets.
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Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?
I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.
And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.
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What did you expect Freddie to say? :dontknow:
Manny is his main meal ticket, do think that he would say that Oscar hits harder? Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
Just because Manny is his meal ticket doesn't mean that he needs to throw any credibility he may have out the window.
Theres no way Manny comes even close to De La Hoya's power. I don't even think Manny is a huge puncher at LW. He had to batter David Diaz around for 9 rounds before he could stop him. At 135 Oscar would just spark guys with 1 punch, with either hand.
I think Freddie's brain has finally left the building.
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Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?
I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.
And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.
A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.
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What did you expect Freddie to say? :dontknow:
Manny is his main meal ticket, do think that he would say that Oscar hits harder? Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
Just because Manny is his meal ticket doesn't mean that he needs to throw any credibility he may have out the window.
Theres no way Manny comes even close to De La Hoya's power. I don't even think Manny is a huge puncher at LW. He had to batter David Diaz around for 9 rounds before he could stop him. At 135 Oscar would just spark guys with 1 punch, with either hand.
I think Freddie's brain has finally left the building.
Did you see DLH-Bredahl fight at 130 lbs?
DLH can't even knockout cold that bum. Bredahl evn hit DLH with some good shot. It's a corner stoppage so don't portray DLH as that murderous puncher. And that is the younger DLH.
Tell me who knockout cold Diaz? Only Pac.
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leftylee number 1 groupie
Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?
I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.
And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.
So you don't think it's possible that Edwin Valero could hit harder than say.....Cory Spinks?
Not saying Pac hits harder than ODLH but there is a lot more than just 'weight' that determines your punch power.
Pac has quite a decent frame. I think you're going to be surprised with how well he handles the extra weight.
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Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.
HHhhhmmm so I guess every arena and even stadium that he keeps selling out is filled to capacity by Phillipinos? Nope. Like it or not, Mexicans still fill out arenas/stadiums wherever ODLH fights regardless of fighting a big name or not.
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This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!
And that is what makes this fight exciting I guess :) . The thing I somehow like about this fight is that, ok, lots and lots of people hate ODLH but seems like they want him to win convincingly just to quiet all those Pac groupies (not you, you seem to have your feet on the ground and far from being biased with Pac). Darn it! I have a company dinner that night! I will try to escape earlier or hope the place has a bar!
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Pac learned how to deal with Jab after his lost to Morales.
Not so sure about that. Morales tried to "give the fans more excitement than the last fight" and went on to exchange with Pac, bad idea. He did fine on the first fight just jabbing away, one-two, etc. And just keeping Pac away and moving to the side whenever Pac did his typical charge attack.
What makes me think twice about this fight is how ODLH got hit by a guy that is not known to have KO fists (Forbes) and still had some noticeable damage to his face. ODLH wasn't really threatened by Forbes at any point of that fight but still, just one of those things that make me go hhhhmmmmm.
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leftylee number 1 groupie
Some people are out of there mind firstly have many of you have boxed ? do you know the difference getting hit by someone who weighs 10+ more pounds ?
I can tell you from experience that there is a hell of alot difference. ODLH's natural weight is easily 160+ pounds, and its physically impossible for little Manny Pacquiao to hit harder than ODLH. Especially since ODLH's core strength is a big advantage.
And if anyone actually believes Manny Pacquiao hits harder than a man, who is naturally easily 15 pounds heavier than him. Then you need to be whipped round to the nearest doctor because your a danger to society.
A bullet is only weighs an oz but it's enough to kill a 200lbs man. Why ?? Because of Velocity. Pac's punch maybe 10 lbs lighter but it travel much faster than DLHs. The faster a punch travels the harder it lands. This is Basic Physics.
I know all about speed generating power, but when has Manny Pacquiao showed 1 punch KO power at the higher weights ? he had to hit David Diaz about 1000 times before David Diaz's body finally give up.
When ODLH was at the lower weight classes he was KOing opponents. With one punch and he still hits hard, like i said if you think Manny Pacquiao hits harder than ODLH.
I suggest you either watch there fights again, or go to the nearest doctors because thats crazy talk.
As for your comment Ono yes not in all cases does a heavier man hit harder. But in most cases especially boxing they do, fighters like Cory Spinks, Paul Malignaggi are exceptions.
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Pacquiao does not have one-punch power. He knocks opponents out by his relentlessness and his ability to wear his opponents out. Yes he does have power but it's his accumulation of blows that take people out.
Let's look at the knockout history:
Diaz TKO by 9 - he hit him at will and still took 9 rounds.
Solis KO by 8 - Solis only really took 2 rounds of punishment but was looking for a way out instead of really being hurt.
Morales KO by 3 - I believe Morales had big trouble making 130 which is why it only lasted 3.
Morales TKO by 10 - It took a RIDICULOUS amount of shots to be taken out. No one shot looked to hurt Morales but you saw each one take it's toll.
Velasquez TKO by 6 - Again, Velasquez wasn't taken out by one or a couple of big blows, it was by a huge round where Manny landed sick amounts of combinations.
Barrera TKO by 11 - Another case where Pacquiao landed a ridiculous amount of punches but took 11 to finish.
Ledwaba TKO by 6 - This is somewhat of an early knockout but if you've seen this fight you'd realize Pac landed hellacious shots for ALL of those rounds. He landed more punches in 6 than most in a full 12.
Even at lower weights from where he's at now, it took him more than just one-punch power to take people out...
(Battery and Lucero were one-punch knockouts and would'nt be proving my cause if i talked about them)
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Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?
I'm with ICB on this.
To say Pac hits harder tha ODLH is absurd. DLH has fought at middleweight. Pac started at flyweight.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?
People are going to need get used to such hyperbole leading up to the fight. Freddy is doing his usual, horrible prefight trash talking. Anything to make this absurd fight seem more exciting than it really will be. Is Pac faster and better conditioned than Oscar...sure. Can he hit as hard as Oscar? If you are a logical and unbiased fan...you clearly know he can't. Does any of this really matter? It shouldn't...since both of these fighters should be fighting people their own size.
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Re: Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?
On several occasions in the past, the punch mitts on Roach hands came out flying when PAC started to explode in their numerous punch mitts sessions... If Hoya was not able to do that during the time Roach trained him then Freddie Roach can say with authority that "PAC hits much harder than Hoya"...
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