Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

[Diane]

As PAC's trainer, we expect Freddie to favor PAC but it's also fact that Freddie has the authority to assess both boxers' power since he was able to hold the mitts infront of these 2 boxers...

When Freddie was doing it for Hoya, it's years ago so it's also expected that Hoya's power further diminishes (compared to what Freddie felt years ago) due to aging while that of PAC still growing stronger...

It's reported that Victor Ortiz is currently sparring with Hoya and there were even rumours that Ortiz was mauling Hoya in sparring. Ortiz is also said to have sparred with PAC in the past and PAC is holding his own against the bigger Ortiz...

Ortiz is now a GBP boxer (formerly Top Rank). I hope he can proclaim that "Hoya hits harder than PAC" to even up things...
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If you actually believe that Freddie is not going to be biased, then you truly are delusional. Wait. Everyone already knows that to be the case.

Why bring up the Ortiz crap again, when it's already been discussed, and proven to be false. That rumor was started even before Oscar started sparring.

[XaduBoxer]

As PAC's trainer, we expect Freddie to favor PAC but it's also fact that Freddie has the authority to assess both boxers' power since he was able to hold the mitts infront of these 2 boxers...

When Freddie was doing it for Hoya, it's years ago so it's also expected that Hoya's power further diminishes (compared to what Freddie felt years ago) due to aging while that of PAC still growing stronger...

It's reported that Victor Ortiz is currently sparring with Hoya and there were even rumours that Ortiz was mauling Hoya in sparring. Ortiz is also said to have sparred with PAC in the past and PAC is holding his own against the bigger Ortiz...

Ortiz is now a GBP boxer (formerly Top Rank). I hope he can proclaim that "Hoya hits harder than PAC" to even up things...
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If you actually believe that Freddie is not going to be biased, then you truly are delusional. Wait. Everyone already knows that to be the case.

Why bring up the Ortiz crap again, when it's already been discussed, and proven to be false. That rumor was started even before Oscar started sparring.

Well I won't say Freddie is telling the truth and I won't say he's lying... We will have the answer to this come December 6...

I brought up Ortiz since he's the only common factor between PAC and Hoya (of course aside from Freddie who knows DelaHoya and PAC very well )...

Ortiz sparred with PAC in the past and currently sparring with Hoya... Hoya is Ortiz' big boss so I hope he'll say some morale boosting words of support for his boss...

[kingfrnk]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

[XaduBoxer]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

It won't be depressing for PAC fans if he loses this fight. PAC is expected to loss this fight so no big deal really...

But how sweet it is for PAC fans if PAC will do the unthinkable and defeats the giant Hoya? It will be a maddening celebration...
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[C-Lo]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

wow...I started to rant a little bit.

(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)

[CFH]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

wow...I started to rant a little bit.

(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)

Don't let that stop you. I haven't said anything consequential since my 48th post.

[kingfrnk]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

wow...I started to rant a little bit.

(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)

not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats

[C-Lo]

LOL hits harder than who?? ok i kno Freddie loves his fighter but come on MAN. there is no way Manny hits harder than Oscar at all. its gonna be depressing for pac groupies not fans GROUPIES if Oscar KTFO of Pacman

I usually have family and friends over for major boxing matches but ALL Pacquiao fights are held at my house. If Pac gets knocked out, I will have the most depressed house in the history of sports. EVERYONE that comes to my place are all Pacquiao fans and my friends are of all different nationalities, just in case people think we're all a bunch of Filipinos.

This Pac vs Hoya fight will be EPIC at my place because we will be filled to capacity! I need to get a damn Keg, for a damn fight! I always said to people that I was setting up a funeral for our favorite fighter. But if he pulls it off, my place will be nuts!

wow...I started to rant a little bit.

(kingfrnk...I'm trying to get that 1,000 post but I'm running out of things to say!)

not as depressed when almost my whole family was when Tito lost to Bhop. and i was fukin depressed when the gay ass NY Giants beat the Pats

The first Pacquiao vs Marquez fight made my family go nuts. At first we lost our minds the first round, then throughout each round, we were all like "WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!?" Then my dad and uncles started yelling at Manny on what to do through the TV.

I always thought people who gave instructions via yelling at the TV were dumbasses. THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU! But then the more I became a sports fan, the more I started to do the same...I think sometimes, it does work..

[C-Lo]

Or worst story of all!!

My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..

I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...

[XaduBoxer]

Or worst story of all!!

My great grandfather was the biggest Joe Frazier fan and when he quit on his stool during the Thrilla in Manilla, he had a heart attack and didn't make it..

I don't know why but everytime I watch a fight with the family, someone has to mention that story...

In the Philippines, after each Pacquiao fight there's news of a person or persons who died watching the fight. Mostly old people who died of heart attack due to too much excitement (the high and lows in a Pacquiao fight were too much for them to handle)...
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[gyrokai]

Pac's right had is "harder" and his jab is more explosive. But a left hook is a left HOOK! Doesn't matter how strong you are, it's the body's ability to work together to put the best amount of torque and leverage into the punch to land a blow that a fighter can't see coming. Left hook is devastating, and de la Hoya has one!

He's going to land it too. Pacquiao's moving his head a lot for this fight. If Pac can avoid that left, or at least make de la Hoya unbalanced, then he'll win, EASY.

[Mad_Dog]

power is the last thing to go guys, speed is what goes first. Look at Foreman, lacked speed but power was still there.

[bond007]

I think Freddie is either punch drunk or on the pipe. I really hope for a good fight.

[XaduBoxer]

Oscar De La Hoya hits a bag during an open workout at his boxing training camp Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008, in Big Bear, Calif. De La Hoya is preparing for his fight against Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6 in Las Vegas.


Some of the media people noticed a bluish discoloration (black eye?) under Hoya's right eye... This could be what triggered the "Ortiz mauling Hoya" rumour...





Hoya also looks already dried up...

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[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

Wow, Freddie's current paycheck-giver hits harder than his former paycheck-giver. Even though the former one is 20lbs heavier and known for crushing guys a few weight divisions higher. Maybe Pacquaio should fight Margarito as a tuneup?