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I noticed on the ring p4p ratings that he is #10. i hope he does well against Philips so he can get that rematch with Margarito. Hes one of the few guys in the sport that can be multiple champions, hope it goes well for him, especially since hes one of my favs right now.
wat do yall think of him being on the Ring p4p ratings??
I reckon he will be there for many more years to come
He definitely deserves to be top 10. I have a feeling Hatton will take over that spot if he does a number on Paulie. If not, Williams stays. This is not my opinion cause I think Williams is better P4P but I think RING Mag will go that direction.
I personally feel he doesn't belong in the top 10 just now.
Vic Darchinyan just recently dominated and stopped Mijares and he is nowhere to be seen in the top 10 when mijares was previously ranked around 7 i think.
Williams only holds one win over a top 10 p4p fighter Antonio Margarito who at the time wasn't ranked there so it shouldn't place Williams there imo.
Just read somewhere that Paul Williams has said he will fight Shane Mosley next because Margarito hasnt signed the contract to fight Mosley and cannot be contacted. I think Mosley has more of a chance in a fight with Margarito than with Williams. I think Williams reach gives any fighter problems, at least Maragrito can be outboxed at times.
Ya, Paul could have a top 20 P4P spot. He snuck out the decision against Margo not that long ago at all. He's been in with some decent opposition.
I think after this win and belt(IF IF) he will be top 10 P4P. Especially with a win out of his weight class.
I still can't figure out why P4P ratings aren't affected more by people seeking out fights outside of their divisions? Isn't that what P4P is all about?
We need Margarito Vs Williams 2
I wouldn't have him in the top ten.
Me neither. I think Williams is really good, but that first Quintana loss put him down. And a rematch win over a guy he should have beaten originally and then a fight at MW against who exactly. No, Williams is quality but needs a top win or two more to justify being in the top 10 P4P.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Me either i still think fighters like.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Chad Dawson
Joe Calzaghe
Manny Pacquiao
Israel Vasquez
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Ivan Calderon
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vic Darchinyan
Antonio Margarito
Should easily be rated above Paul Williams, and im suprised Chad Dawson isn't in the top 10. Considering he's beaten good fighters like Eric Harding, Antonio Tarver, Tomasz Adamek, Glen Johnson.
I hear what you are saying. This system is not set up for boxing using something as basic as a one, two, three.. decimal system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
It should be shown more along the lines of a pyramid or a chart, diagram that expands and branches out. This would give us a better look and feel of the whole thing. I would even go as far as diving this into two groups. Small guys 105 to 147 and then big guys from 154 to 200 + ;D The top 10 list is just stupid.
all of those fighters u named are in the top 10 p4p list by ring mag. the only one on that list that should be #10 instead of paul is Chad Dawson because he has beating the better opposition. its not like hes in the top 5 or anything, hes in the very last place which he can easily be bumped from.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupieMe either i still think fighters like.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Chad Dawson
Joe Calzaghe
Manny Pacquiao
Israel Vasquez
Bernard Hopkins
Rafael Marquez
Ivan Calderon
Juan Manuel Marquez
Vic Darchinyan
Antonio Margarito
Should easily be rated above Paul Williams, and im suprised Chad Dawson isn't in the top 10. Considering he's beaten good fighters like Eric Harding, Antonio Tarver, Tomasz Adamek, Glen Johnson.
Beating A. Margarito, Quintana in a 2nd attempt (After getting schooled the first time) and a shot Sharmba Mitchell doesn't make you P4P top ten worthy IMO.
I have your boy just outside the the top 10, and if he beats Paulie im not sure where i'll rank him, because even though he has had a much longer career than quite alot of fighters on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Fighters like Chad Dawson have got a strong resume recently, so it just depends on how you look at it.
I have Hatton ahead of Paul Williams without doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupieI have your boy just outside the the top 10, and if he beats Paulie im not sure where i'll rank him, because even though he has had a much longer career than quite alot of fighters on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Fighters like Chad Dawson have got a strong resume recently, so it just depends on how you look at it.
P4P wise I don't know. Maybe 10/11. I don't like P4P lists personally.
I do P4P on who they have beat in there career. Unlike yourself you do it how they look recently.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupieI have your boy just outside the the top 10, and if he beats Paulie im not sure where i'll rank him, because even though he has had a much longer career than quite alot of fighters on the list.Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
Fighters like Chad Dawson have got a strong resume recently, so it just depends on how you look at it.
Works different ways, hence why I don't like them :)
P4p lists are subjective, but why is Miguel Cotto still in the Ring Magazine's top ten? In fact, Ring moved him this week from #9 position to #8. Please explain that to me. Cotto has stayed on the list after Margarito beat him.
Was Mijares a top ten p4p when Vic beat him?
Christian Mijares was number 7 i believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
With Vic's recent wins, shouldn't he be a bottom top ten p4p?Quote:
Originally Posted by leftylee number 1 groupieChristian Mijares was number 7 i believe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
I am sure there are other deserving fighters too.
Mind you, Nothing against Cotto.