Rumor has it that Floyd is back in the Gym could he be targeting Pac? That would be an easy payday for Floyd. Floyd is to slick for Pac and could clown him all night, Multimillion dollar fight sparing session for Floyd, Remember he is a business man
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Rumor has it that Floyd is back in the Gym could he be targeting Pac? That would be an easy payday for Floyd. Floyd is to slick for Pac and could clown him all night, Multimillion dollar fight sparing session for Floyd, Remember he is a business man
lol yup he will take pacman as a tune up fight just to shake off the rust...pacman would be a great tune up for floyd jr after oscar disposes of him.
Pacman will be relegated to Ricardo Mayorga or Zab Judah status after his fight with oscar a name to pad guys records.
Its a shame they handled pacamn this way his advisers are gonna ruin him and his legacy because of biting off more then he can chew.
I fear boxing is turning into one giant episode of American Idol.....or better yet The price is right :-X
Both should be meeting the biggest threats,fellow champs and top contenders within their respected divisions.
Cant agree with you more but We sill still pay to see the fight even with Pac losing to Oscar. And Pac fans will still think he has got a chance LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Moono
If PAC beats Oscar more convincingly than how PBF beat Oscar then I think PAC has a chance to beat PBF in a future fight... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bond007Cant agree with you more but We sill still pay to see the fight even with Pac losing to Oscar. And Pac fans will still think he has got a chance LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Moono
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
lol oh hi its the Dreamer! ;D no wonder they call this a dream fight becuase only people who dreaming will wake up to a harsh reality on DEC 6th lol
If this happens, I think it would be entitled " The Fantasy Match"Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007
Sorry, but with PBF's layoff I doubt the Pacman would even stand a chance with him...
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Originally Posted by MoonoQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
lol oh hi its the Dreamer! ;D no wonder they call this a dream fight becuase only people who dreaming will wake up to a harsh reality on DEC 6th lol
If PAC beats Oscar, I'll give him chance against PBF... ;)
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he is not gonna beat oscar! the only way is if oscar injures himself or eats some bad food and throws up in the ring and they have to tko him for being sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by MoonoQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
lol oh hi its the Dreamer! ;D no wonder they call this a dream fight becuase only people who dreaming will wake up to a harsh reality on DEC 6th lol
If PAC beats Oscar, I'll give him chance against PBF... ;)
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No fighter ever dominated oscar ever! he has been in nothing but competitive fights even his fights with mosley were super competitive.
Bernard hopkins couldnt even dominate oscar until the body shot.
Oscar is superior its a clear mismatch and its sickening....Pacman is flawed and his style is a brawler whose face is wide open
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Originally Posted by Moonohe is not gonna beat oscar! the only way is if oscar injures himself or eats some bad food and throws up in the ring and they have to tko him for being sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Moono
If PAC beats Oscar, I'll give him chance against PBF... ;)
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No fighter ever dominated oscar ever! he has been in nothing but competitive fights even his fights with mosley were super competitive.
Bernard hopkins couldnt even dominate oscar until the body shot.
Oscar is superior its a clear mismatch and its sickening....Pacman is flawed and his style is a brawler whose face is wide open
Oscar is superior and heavy favorite... BUT he's not unbeatable... ;D
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Very valid points there;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonohe is not gonna beat oscar! the only way is if oscar injures himself or eats some bad food and throws up in the ring and they have to tko him for being sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Moono
If PAC beats Oscar, I'll give him chance against PBF... ;)
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No fighter ever dominated oscar ever! he has been in nothing but competitive fights even his fights with mosley were super competitive.
Bernard hopkins couldnt even dominate oscar until the body shot.
Oscar is superior its a clear mismatch and its sickening....Pacman is flawed and his style is a brawler whose face is wide open
if you think pacman can win put 5 grand on him...you pac fans make me laugh put your money where your mouth is if you are so confident man.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonohe is not gonna beat oscar! the only way is if oscar injures himself or eats some bad food and throws up in the ring and they have to tko him for being sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
No fighter ever dominated oscar ever! he has been in nothing but competitive fights even his fights with mosley were super competitive.
Bernard hopkins couldnt even dominate oscar until the body shot.
Oscar is superior its a clear mismatch and its sickening....Pacman is flawed and his style is a brawler whose face is wide open
Oscar is superior and heavy favorite... BUT he's not unbeatable... ;D
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hes not unbeatable but not Beatable by Pac LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonohe is not gonna beat oscar! the only way is if oscar injures himself or eats some bad food and throws up in the ring and they have to tko him for being sick.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
No fighter ever dominated oscar ever! he has been in nothing but competitive fights even his fights with mosley were super competitive.
Bernard hopkins couldnt even dominate oscar until the body shot.
Oscar is superior its a clear mismatch and its sickening....Pacman is flawed and his style is a brawler whose face is wide open
Oscar is superior and heavy favorite... BUT he's not unbeatable... ;D
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Exactly Oscar doesnt even need to train hard to kick pacmans butt lets be honest...Oscar has faced scarier harder more dangerous fighters then pacman and he never been phased or scared of them...why would he have to be scared of pacman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007
Vargas hits hard and he hit oscar flush and was on ROIDS! he was hitting oscar hard with many punches in the early rounds of the delahoya fight and oscar took those like a warrior.
The thing with oscar is he might be a pretty boy but when he gets hit it makes him angry and he wants to take your head off he enjoys it.
Well put. Short sweet and to the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
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Originally Posted by MoonoExactly Oscar doesnt even need to train hard to kick pacmans butt lets be honest...Oscar has faced scarier harder more dangerous fighters then pacman and he never been phased or scared of them...why would he have to be scared of pacman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007
Vargas hits hard and he hit oscar flush and was on ROIDS! he was hitting oscar hard with many punches in the early rounds of the delahoya fight and oscar took those like a warrior.
The thing with oscar is he might be a pretty boy but when he gets hit it makes him angry and he wants to take your head off he enjoys it.
Who said Oscar is scared of the PACMAN?
You become so predictable... Posting ridiculous statements lately... I haven't heard one person saying Oscar is scared of Pacquiao...
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who said Oscar was scared? no one...I am simply saying Why WOULD HE BE SCARED OF PACMAN? or even feel he is a threat when he faced better, bigger and stronger fighters then him? he doesnt need to train to beat himQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by MoonoExactly Oscar doesnt even need to train hard to kick pacmans butt lets be honest...Oscar has faced scarier harder more dangerous fighters then pacman and he never been phased or scared of them...why would he have to be scared of pacman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007
Vargas hits hard and he hit oscar flush and was on ROIDS! he was hitting oscar hard with many punches in the early rounds of the delahoya fight and oscar took those like a warrior.
The thing with oscar is he might be a pretty boy but when he gets hit it makes him angry and he wants to take your head off he enjoys it.
Who said Oscar is scared of the PACMAN?
You become so predictable... Posting ridiculous statements lately... I haven't heard one person saying Oscar is scared of Pacquiao...
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You must be kidding me with that statement! He's already a sure shot into the hall of fame and you say by losing to Oscar and Floyd would turn him into the same status of fighter as Mayorga and Judah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
I get it, you don't think Pac will win, and yes, Saddoboxer is playing on your last nerve (wouldn't be the first person) but that statement is just out of this world!
just ignore him bro, his a moron. he was actually trying to spell moron but spelled Moono, his just living up to his real name. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by C-LoYou must be kidding me with that statement! He's already a sure shot into the hall of fame and you say by losing to Oscar and Floyd would turn him into the same status of fighter as Mayorga and Judah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
I get it, you don't think Pac will win, and yes, Saddoboxer is playing on your last nerve (wouldn't be the first person) but that statement is just out of this world!
But Pac won't beat Oscar. Pac gets pummeled by Oscar which rules Mayweather out.
Mayweather is eyeing up Hatton IMO.
Something you would know about as you do it all the time :LOLATYOU: "Pac would beat Oscar" Your groupie is gonna get smashed :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by MoonoExactly Oscar doesnt even need to train hard to kick pacmans butt lets be honest...Oscar has faced scarier harder more dangerous fighters then pacman and he never been phased or scared of them...why would he have to be scared of pacman.Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007
Vargas hits hard and he hit oscar flush and was on ROIDS! he was hitting oscar hard with many punches in the early rounds of the delahoya fight and oscar took those like a warrior.
The thing with oscar is he might be a pretty boy but when he gets hit it makes him angry and he wants to take your head off he enjoys it.
Who said Oscar is scared of the PACMAN?
You become so predictable... Posting ridiculous statements lately... I haven't heard one person saying Oscar is scared of Pacquiao...
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Originally Posted by leftylee
I fully agree & tho Ill be blasted for saying this I dont even think it'll be that close....
Too big & too good....even at this stage of his career, but thats just my opinion...
(Interesting observation re Mayweather & Hatton tho & quite possibly true too)
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Oh come on Spicoli if Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar Dela Hoya, then there would be no weight excuse and it would be a great match up. Two of the best P4P fighters fighting eachother hasn't happened since Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez. Im rooting for Manny Pacquiao just so it can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Sorry bro,maybe its an umpopular opine but I'd much rather see Pac taking care of Campbell,JMM as opposed to some hyped up status name fight made to feed the cash cows at the network and ego's of a few.And Imo,that is exactly what this is.Many,many credible and deserving contenders and fellow champs are going by the wayside because we....me as well at times...eat this manufactured stuff up.I like the best fighters in respected divisions to fight and produce one left standing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBOh come on Spicoli if Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar Dela Hoya, then there would be no weight excuse and it would be a great match up. Two of the best P4P fighters fighting eachother hasn't happened since Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez. Im rooting for Manny Pacquiao just so it can happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Even if he does lose he can still go back down, from what it sounds like they didnt' need to change a whole lot physically for him going up to welterweight, he will likely go back down to lightweight or 140 to face Hatton, if Mayweather doesn't come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
Yes it will effect him look at Roy JrQuote:
Originally Posted by TaethEven if he does lose he can still go back down, from what it sounds like they didnt' need to change a whole lot physically for him going up to welterweight, he will likely go back down to lightweight or 140 to face Hatton, if Mayweather doesn't come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
Jones had to lose like 30lbs to get back to lightheavy. Pac isn't going straight to 135, at least I hope not. He would only have to lose 7 pounds to get to junior welter, than another 5 in his next fight to get back to lightweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by bond007Yes it will effect him look at Roy JrQuote:
Originally Posted by TaethEven if he does lose he can still go back down, from what it sounds like they didnt' need to change a whole lot physically for him going up to welterweight, he will likely go back down to lightweight or 140 to face Hatton, if Mayweather doesn't come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
LMFAO!!! That cracked me up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rainjust ignore him bro, his a moron. he was actually trying to spell moron but spelled Moono, his just living up to his real name. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by C-LoYou must be kidding me with that statement! He's already a sure shot into the hall of fame and you say by losing to Oscar and Floyd would turn him into the same status of fighter as Mayorga and Judah?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moono
I get it, you don't think Pac will win, and yes, Saddoboxer is playing on your last nerve (wouldn't be the first person) but that statement is just out of this world!
Come to think of it. This is a good match up.
Pacquiao's title quest
112 vs. Chatchai Sasakul- Lineal Champion
122 vs. Ledwaba- Title holder
126 vs. Barrera- Lineal Champion
130 vs. JMM- Lineal Champion
135 vs. DD - Title holder
Floyd's
130 vs. Genaro Hernandez- Lineal
135- Castillo- Lineal
140 vs. Gatti- title holder
147 vs. Baldomir- Lineal
154 vs. DLH- Title holder
The big difference in their resume is pacquiao fought the best lineal champions. Baldomir and Castillo is no match for jmm and mab
His biggest win was against DLH who was at time with the belt rank #5 on the ring magazine on sw.
Pac has put on an extra 20.5% in weight from 112, where he won his first title (He actually started at 106).
Mayweather put on 18.4% in weight from 130, where he won his first title.
Pacman is naturally smaller, and heas a smaller frame to pack this kind of increase on.
What Pac has done is more impressive, even if it was against inferior opposition.
Manny would be the huge underdog against "Money", but it should be another mega event for both guys.
Let's not get carried away, an OLD Casamayor was doing very well against JMM, and just from how JMM fights, the version of Castillo that fought Mayweather would eat him alive. Are you forgetting who Castillo was? Both him and Corrales WERE the best lightweights since Mosley left the division.
i think Mayweather would take this fight cus it seems like it would be an easy payday because of his style. And i actually do think pac has a small chance against oscar depending on which the golden boy shows up. If the one who beat forbes shows up i think pac has a bit of a chance because oscar seemed to take a lot of shots in that fight and pac is a way harder hitter then 2 pounds
I think that Pac has a chance against ODLH, just not a very good one. However, if he does beat him it would be good for boxing because it would mean that ODLH would have to call it a day & the fact is a Pac-PBF fight would be fantastic. I'm not sure I can see PBF coming back to fight Hatton unless its to take da piss out of his pops. I think it would have to be something huge bring him back and only Pacquiao (after beating ODLH & possibly even Ricky) would offer that IMO.
If anything, hes waiting for Oscar to beat Pac. Then hell sign on to fight Oscar in a rematch because tht would generate more $ than a rematch with Hatton. As for Pac, look for him to fight Hatton win or lose.
I believe that to be the grand plan.
that came to mind too. i think thats oscar and floyds plan, i just hope pac spoils it. If thats not the plan then how else will oscar make money of big show downs between pac/floyd or pac/hatton? if we know oscar, his only in it for wealth either for the present or the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boom Boom
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIf PAC beats Oscar more convincingly than how PBF beat Oscar then I think PAC has a chance to beat PBF in a future fight... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bond007Cant agree with you more but We sill still pay to see the fight even with Pac losing to Oscar. And Pac fans will still think he has got a chance LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Moono
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Here you missed a couple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:lolhaha: :rofmaoal: :LOLATYOU: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerIf PAC beats Oscar more convincingly than how PBF beat Oscar then I think PAC has a chance to beat PBF in a future fight... ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bond007
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I keep thinking this fight is gonna turn out the way the Trinidad fight did. And Trinidad was a natural 147 pounder and we saw what Oscar did to him for a majority of the fight.
You can't be serious with that comment Taeth ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
If for some reason Pac manages to beat Oscar, even by the smallest margin, I can't imagine Floyd NOT coming out of retirement to fight him. The timing is perfect. He's had just enough rest, and this is the biggest fight that can be made in boxing, hands down. I can't see Floyd being able to resist that $$$ and that potential feather in his cap.
If Pac loses (most likely), Pac fight Hatton next. Nobody will think less of Manny for losing the the much bigger man, and it would make perfect sense for him to drop down to 140, a weight he should be able to handle much better than 147. The size difference between real WW's and even the top LWW's is significant - a much bigger difference than between LWW's and LWs.
Then, if Pac beats Hatton, Floyd will probably come back to fight Pac after he's coming off a win against the top man at 140. If Hatton wins, Floyd has Hatton (maybe at 140) or Oscar. I still wouldn't be surprised if Floyd tries to cherry-pick a MW belt at some point.
Behold the prophecy of Rozzydamus.