I have come to realize...

Reality TV is our society's version of the Roman Gladiator matches and Christians being fed to lions etc.


In the olden days people used to go to the Colosseum to see torture and humiliation. Today people just watch tv hoping to see a horrible American Idol get berated infront of millions of viewers or some Real World room mates fight over who does the dishes... these people are not physically hurt the majority of the time but emotionally and psychologically destroyed or they thrive off of such drama and this sickens me even more, to the point where I long for the days of painful deaths and torture for all of those involved.


Your thoughts....

Have i got this wrong?

I think you said - Roman humiliation/torture is comparable to game shows today that emotionally and psychologically destroy people, but you wish for a time when these people suffer painful deaths and torture?

You want the emotionally and psychologically abused physically toutured? :-\

I think he wants the emotional abusers to be horse whipped and fed to the Lions.

For his own enjoyment of course ;).:-\which could make him an abuser of sorts.


So far we have the abused,the abusers and the viewers.

Who owns the lions?

If the abusers now own the lions then they them selves will be feed to them eventually so its a nasty little circle, a catch 22 food chain.

Eventually as the abused become the abusers there will only be lions left and confused viewers who will have a big decision to make.


Ummm thats a NO from me Lyle , ;).

haha Oh man I love American Idol for the first 2 weeks. Deep seeded delusion ftw!

Spose I'm going to hell...:shakehead:

I dislike the entire idea of "reality tv" they are hybrid of 3 things which aren't that great to begin with #1 Reality, tv was invented to get us away from reality without the use of drugs/alcohol...reality tv should really be the NEWS (in the best case) #2 Game Shows...I suppose with the exception that you need talent to win on some game shows #3 Gossip and inane blabber about worthless people ie Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan, etc.


All I am saying is if this is what they plan on feeding the masses then bring back the lions! Is nobody with me???

I suppose a lot of what constitutes reality tv is based on the premise that famous people are inherently more interesting in their day to day lives than "ordinary people". This is a fallacy. Most often you get famous movie stars away from the camera, or rock stars off the stage or out of the studio, and they're just as boring as we are.

Paris Hilton is a bit of an anomoly, a member of that new breed who are famous solely because of their famousness. No talent whatsoever. You wonder how they ever got famous. And their lives become inseparable from the concept of reality tv, because with it they'd be nothing.

Sometimes reality tv is rather funny. I thought the Osbournes was a hoot. Hulk Hogan and Gene Simmons reality tv are boring as hell.

Yeah a lot of reality tv exists because "we" like to see stars take a fall, e.g. Britney Spears.

American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

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American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

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Well think about it, the music being PUSHED on the people is pure shit and it's due to stuff like American Idol.

I'm sorry if I get worked up but whenever I think about what people may hate about America or Americans in general I look no further than MTV's "The Real World"....I hate THOSE Americans too and I am American.

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American Idol is pure shit, it's a glorified Karaoke/Gong show.

So yeah Lyle, I'm pretty much with you, but I don't seem to get as worked up about it.

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Well think about it, the music being PUSHED on the people is pure shit and it's due to stuff like American Idol.

I'm sorry if I get worked up but whenever I think about what people may hate about America or Americans in general I look no further than MTV's "The Real World"....I hate THOSE Americans too and I am American.

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:) no need for Sorry bud, and I do see your point about the image of America abroad, but consider this...

I don't think what you see on American reality tv is any dumber than what you see on some of the Brit games shows where people totally debase themselves for a bit of cash. And it certainly can't be any worse than some of the Japanese stuff I've seen.

We Canadians of course are above all that nonsense.

I like Japanese Gameshows....at least have SKILL to win!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxXLF6114Y0

I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

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I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

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Well we finally find something to agree on...have some rep you ol' SOB

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I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

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Well we finally find something to agree on...have some rep you ol' SOB

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http://www.cs.tut.fi/%7Esimona/Hell_Frozen_Over.jpg

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I can't watch any of that stuff. I don't want to know who the nation's best karaoke singer is or watch somebody getting their tits out to get in the papers.

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Well we finally find something to agree on...have some rep you ol' SOB

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I agree with you about Arreola too.

Sweet...next up trickle down economics ;)....only kidding of course

kumbaya my Lord, kumbaya...

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Sweet...next up trickle down economics ;)....only kidding of course

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Of course. What when you consider reality, facts, evidence, etc. :)

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Of course. What when you consider reality, facts, evidence, etc. :)

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I'm searching for the American dialect equivilant to "you cheeky bastard"

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Of course. What when you consider reality, facts, evidence, etc. :)

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I'm searching for the American dialect equivilant to "you cheeky bastard"

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Yes, it's cheeky to bring up reality, facts and evidence when discusing economics. After all, ignoring them has worked so well for the US economy over the last eight years. No need to change what's working so well. :)

love fest over already... :shakehead:

ding! ding!

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

Its all theatrics and one big Television Audition for the contestants.....hoping on future TV & book deals....or to go onto another 'reality' show.

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Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

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In what way, o Always Wrong One? :)

....let's not start in this thread at least

Reality shows are crap. I hate the fact that popular culture is dominated by rubbish like that.

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Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

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Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

I hate all reality tv and in fact most tv period nowadays.

Our 21st century culture's have collectively pissed their heritages down the toilet.

Society is wretched and worthless by and large now.

Just witness the decline in art, literature, science, technology everything is just going to the dogs.

Whereas in the past our great people were visionaries, artists who created beauty out of nothing, made impossibly elegant buildings, discovered wonderous new things and dared to think great thoughts, our modern world revolves around consumerism and hedonism.

Nobody cares about art any more, save as some sort of shock value tactic where modern artist attempt to see who can stoop the lowest and create the most disgusting, offensive, worthless piece of 'art' in order to become famous and receive that glorious status of 'celebrity'.

Our great scientists are either making military weapons for lots of money or else working in genetics and cosmetics where they can make lots of money pandering to the vanities of our self obsessed citizens.

Meanwhile the masses no longer want to be educated. We don't want tv to tell us about history, the natural world, science etc, no we want to watch fat people try and make themselves look beautiful, or laugh at a talentless delusionist try and sing their way to stardom.

I think the modern world declines every year to be honest :-\

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Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

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Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

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True but it doesn't keep Democrats from being responsible for what they have done/will do.

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Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

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True but it doesn't keep Democrats from being responsible for what they have done/will do.

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Sorry Sahib,you dont get to control all three branches of government,and then suddenly declare the results arent your fault
Who in the hell's fault would it be then,the Republicans controlled everything

oh please spare this thread I have some shit to say in it. I'll wait.

Also calling Lyle Sahib is going to do nothing but confuse the hell out of him. And me it confuses me too.

As for reality tv, it's really hit or miss. I mean there is a thin line between the surreal life and celebrity fit club. Usually contestents from the aforemention just cross over to the latter but no time for that now.

Non-competition based reality shows are sparingly good, only sparingly. The Real World for the most part is good stuff it just comes down to casting really. There have been times where the casting is so shit that it's unwatchable like when they followed up the great Real World San Diego (with the exception of the annoying Frankie) with Real World Austin where 2 of the cast members were gay and it turned into a whole home season with like 4 gay guys being in the house at lal times it was terrible. But the Real World for the most part was always good to watch but I haven't watched since.

Others, Keeping Up With The Celebrity family of the week type shows, are turrible. I'm a HUGE Hulk Hogan fan but no way I was watching that reality show. I think the first season I watched on occasion. Now it's the sparingly talented (and scarily thick) Brooke Hogan who is carrying the shows mantle I think. I remember she sung the national anthem way back when the Lightning were making there run and I think that was the pinnacle for her. Hulkamania won the Lightning that cup. Or maybe Hulkamania was just there to quell the evil forces of Canada and Calgary.

Garbage are all those shows I never watch. The Surreal Life was harmless fun and many times was hilarious. Shows based on competition, like American Idol and The Ultimate Fighter are better but American Idol is so much better because it keeps it just about the music. You can think the music is bubblegummy and the judges pricks but you'll never see what's happening in the hotel room on American Idol that is the National Enquirer and the TV Guide network's job. Other shows like Americas Next Top Model (girl had me watch it once, one where the girl was trippin about going blind or somethig, really wasn't that hot anyways), Ultimate Fighter and even the Apprentice (which is imo, the best reality show out there) let drama get to much in the way. I hate when people tell me their drama in real life I don't want to see it on TV too but sometimes the drama is so absurd it's hilarious.

You may hate it Lyle but Real World castmates getting heated over who has the car or who washes the dishes is great stuff to me.

I don't watch much TV anymore, mostly just ESPN and whatever sports are on but that is my take.

Oh yeah and Bush sucks blah blah Obama wants to bankrupt coal and the govenment is leftist blah blah this is republicans fault blah blah no it was the decision made in 2002 by Bush that caused this blah blah

That's what those topics end up looking like to me.

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Also calling Lyle Sahib is going to do nothing but confuse the hell out of him. And me it confuses me too.

As for reality tv, it's really hit or miss. I mean there is a thin line between the surreal life and celebrity fit club. Usually contestents from the aforemention just cross over to the latter but no time for that now.

Non-competition based reality shows are sparingly good, only sparingly. The Real World for the most part is good stuff it just comes down to casting really. There have been times where the casting is so shit that it's unwatchable like when they followed up the great Real World San Diego (with the exception of the annoying Frankie) with Real World Austin where 2 of the cast members were gay and it turned into a whole home season with like 4 gay guys being in the house at lal times it was terrible. But the Real World for the most part was always good to watch but I haven't watched since.

Others, Keeping Up With The Celebrity family of the week type shows, are turrible. I'm a HUGE Hulk Hogan fan but no way I was watching that reality show. I think the first season I watched on occasion. Now it's the sparingly talented (and scarily thick) Brooke Hogan who is carrying the shows mantle I think. I remember she sung the national anthem way back when the Lightning were making there run and I think that was the pinnacle for her. Hulkamania won the Lightning that cup. Or maybe Hulkamania was just there to quell the evil forces of Canada and Calgary.

Garbage are all those shows I never watch. The Surreal Life was harmless fun and many times was hilarious. Shows based on competition, like American Idol and The Ultimate Fighter are better but American Idol is so much better because it keeps it just about the music. You can think the music is bubblegummy and the judges pricks but you'll never see what's happening in the hotel room on American Idol that is the National Enquirer and the TV Guide network's job. Other shows like Americas Next Top Model (girl had me watch it once, one where the girl was trippin about going blind or somethig, really wasn't that hot anyways), Ultimate Fighter and even the Apprentice (which is imo, the best reality show out there) let drama get to much in the way. I hate when people tell me their drama in real life I don't want to see it on TV too but sometimes the drama is so absurd it's hilarious.

You may hate it Lyle but Real World castmates getting heated over who has the car or who washes the dishes is great stuff to me.

I don't watch much TV anymore, mostly just ESPN and whatever sports are on but that is my take.

Oh yeah and Bush sucks blah blah Obama wants to bankrupt coal and the govenment is leftist blah blah this is republicans fault blah blah no it was the decision made in 2002 by Bush that caused this blah blah

That's what those topics end up looking like to me.

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You have the option of responding,or just ignoring a post,its a free world. You chose to both read and respond.
Dont hold me accountable for your own lack of self discipline.

What are you talking about? I'm holding you accountable for trying to make every topic as boring as possible.

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What are you talking about? I'm holding you accountable for trying to make every topic as boring as possible.

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Go right ahead,but you still have the option not to read anything. Nobody makes me watch Jim Carrey films, and so I dont watch them

I'd watch The Number 23 1000 times before I hear everyone keep playing the blame game gah it's so boring. Was just stating my opinion really.

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I'd watch The Number 23 1000 times before I hear everyone keep playing the blame game gah it's so boring. Was just stating my opinion really.

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Again find the post where I brought up Bush and "the democratic congress"
That would have been Lyle,not me,I responded to his post

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I'd watch The Number 23 1000 times before I hear everyone keep playing the blame game gah it's so boring. Was just stating my opinion really.

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Again find the post where I brought up Bush and "the democratic congress"
That would have been Lyle,not me,I responded to his post

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Again? You find me the reply where you said this before.

Just kidding I really could not care less but you can keep replying if you want I'll probably reply too. While your at it tell me why you called Lyle Sahib I'm interested. And confused (as stated before, I can find the post if you wish)

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I'd watch The Number 23 1000 times before I hear everyone keep playing the blame game gah it's so boring. Was just stating my opinion really.

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Again find the post where I brought up Bush and "the democratic congress"
That would have been Lyle,not me,I responded to his post

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Again? You find me the reply where you said this before.

Just kidding I really could not care less but you can keep replying if you want I'll probably reply too.

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Actually in point of fact you are correct,I first said if you dont like it,dont read. But I still go back to,I didnt turn the thread in that direction,Lyle did,and if you dont like me responding to him,you have the option to not read my response to Lyle

Sahib? Any explanations or no?

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Sahib? Any explanations or no?

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I call every one Sahib, must have been something I picked up from a book somewhere along the way,either that or a Looney Tune or something when I was a kid. But I call everyone that, like some people use the word "friend" as in "Listen friend....." the same way

I'd arm wrestle a black bear on prime time tv for mucho dinero! And you can take that to the bank, RuPaul.



wait, what?