I have come to realize...

[El Kabong]

Of course. What when you consider reality, facts, evidence, etc.

I'm searching for the American dialect equivilant to "you cheeky bastard"

[Kirkland Laing]

Of course. What when you consider reality, facts, evidence, etc.

I'm searching for the American dialect equivilant to "you cheeky bastard"

Yes, it's cheeky to bring up reality, facts and evidence when discusing economics. After all, ignoring them has worked so well for the US economy over the last eight years. No need to change what's working so well.

[Youngblood]

love fest over already...

ding! ding!

[El Kabong]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

[Kirkland Laing]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

In what way, o Always Wrong One?

[El Kabong]

....let's not start in this thread at least

[Kirkland Laing]

Reality shows are crap. I hate the fact that popular culture is dominated by rubbish like that.

[Trainer Monkey]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

[Kev]

I hate all reality tv and in fact most tv period nowadays.

Our 21st century culture's have collectively pissed their heritages down the toilet.

Society is wretched and worthless by and large now.

Just witness the decline in art, literature, science, technology everything is just going to the dogs.

Whereas in the past our great people were visionaries, artists who created beauty out of nothing, made impossibly elegant buildings, discovered wonderous new things and dared to think great thoughts, our modern world revolves around consumerism and hedonism.

Nobody cares about art any more, save as some sort of shock value tactic where modern artist attempt to see who can stoop the lowest and create the most disgusting, offensive, worthless piece of 'art' in order to become famous and receive that glorious status of 'celebrity'.

Our great scientists are either making military weapons for lots of money or else working in genetics and cosmetics where they can make lots of money pandering to the vanities of our self obsessed citizens.

Meanwhile the masses no longer want to be educated. We don't want tv to tell us about history, the natural world, science etc, no we want to watch fat people try and make themselves look beautiful, or laugh at a talentless delusionist try and sing their way to stardom.

I think the modern world declines every year to be honest

[El Kabong]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

True but it doesn't keep Democrats from being responsible for what they have done/will do.

[Trainer Monkey]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

True but it doesn't keep Democrats from being responsible for what they have done/will do.

Sorry Sahib,you dont get to control all three branches of government,and then suddenly declare the results arent your fault
Who in the hell's fault would it be then,the Republicans controlled everything

[Kirkland Laing]

Bush and the Democrat Congress have done some big damage to our economy...an Obama Presidency will only exacerbate things.

Oh bull Lyle,you dont get the stink off you that easy,your party controlled congress for most of the Bush Administration

True but it doesn't keep Democrats from being responsible for what they have done/will do.

It's incredible. I explain stuff to you using facts and evidence to the point where you concede the argument. Then later you come out with exactly the same rubbish again. No matter how many times you're told that Fannie/Freddie/Jimmy Carter had nothing to do with the current mess it has no effect, it's like some kind of unkillable zombie lies that you can't not believe. This is why the mass gayification of conservatives has become necessary.

Once again, Fannie/Freddie/Carter/Clinton are not responsible for the current mess. The removal of all regulation and oversight of the financial industry by the Bush administration and their 2004 deal to allow investment banks to lever up their debt:asset ratio from a safe 10-15:1 to 40 and 50 and more :1 is. If Fannie, Freddie and the Community Reinvestment Act had never existed the exact same situation would currently exist.