Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

...how the heck is pac going to beat Oscar. Convince me, fellas, you've a week to help me relieve my pre-fight anxiety. I'm listenin'...

The only way he can beat oscar is in a Video Game and with a cheat code

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Originally Posted by Moono

The only way he can beat oscar is in a Video Game and with a cheat code

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Now that's not exactly the kind of encouragement I had in mind... go on...

Pacman wins inside 10 rounds

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Pacman wins inside 10 rounds

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Well, if Dark Al says so, I can get a nice sleep for a night (it's actually morning here, this pacfan here keeps unusual bedtime schedule). I'll be dozing off for now fellas, keep 'em coming, I'll be back...

pac get hits too easilly to win this im afraid,

the best he can hope for is to try and stay away from de la hoya as much as possible darting in and out (and definatley NOT staying inside) and wait for oscar to tire which he will do

the weight still seems a bit of an odd issue to consider for me

in the tale of De La Hoya - Trinidad Oscar said he was killing himself to make weight and even had to weigh in nude to get down to 147, now how many years ago was that fight, almost a decade, but now suddenly at 35 he can do it ?

something doesnt ring true, i just cannot see Oscar making it and i am prepared to be dissapointed like i was when the guzman - cambell fight got cancelled

lets just watch and witness, sugar ray tried it but failed his still the greatest though ;D i dont think a lost will affect pac that much, he deserve this pay day more then anybody. his been taking on the best possible since he knew what boxing was. im proud of our boy pacfan win or lose. his a legend already, imo he has nothing left to prove but any addition win is just icing on his great career.

5 time champion in 4 weight classes.
41 pounds from his starting weight (Record)
First Filipino to win Lightweight title (Record)
2 wins over el terrible
2 wins over MabMan
1 win and a draw with JMM
The only fighter to ever start from 106 and fight at 147(Record)
First Pound for Pound King from Asia(Record)
52 fights and only 29 years old.

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lets just watch and witness, sugar ray tried it but failed his still the greatest though ;D i dont think a lost will affect pac that much, he deserve this pay day more then anybody. his been taking on the best possible since he knew what boxing was. im proud of our boy pacfan win or lose. his a legend already, imo he has nothing left to prove but any addition win is just icing on his great career.

5 time champion in 4 weight classes.
41 pounds from his starting weight (Record)
First Filipino to win Lightweight title (Record)
2 wins over el terrible
2 wins over MabMan
1 win and a draw with JMM
The only fighter to ever start from 106 and fight at 147(Record)
First Pound for Pound King from Asia(Record)
52 fights and only 29 years old.

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OKay pacfan..... I will be adding more to your anxiety. Personally, I really thought and believed that DLH was winning during the early rounds against PBF whom everybody considers as an excellent technical fighter. Consider me as a bad judge but I really thought DLH won that fight.

If PBF was unable to KO DLH, I don't see any reason why PAc would be able to do it. I've seen how PBF handled Hatton. I've seen how Hatton dismissed MAlignaggi easily. You know what, I still believe that Hatton would be too much for Pac.

These events lead me to conclude and affirm my previous prediction that Pac will not be winning this fight. I do agree that style makes fight but Pac's style won't work against DLH considering the fact that no matter how fast and strong PAc is, he won't be able to KO DLH.

This fight had been decided already. Pac will lose this fight but will go home a very, very wealthy man.

For the record, that's the only reason I'm agreeing on this fight.

Also, let it be noted that I rarely make mistake in my major prediction.:cool:

I don't know if Iwill include this fight in my prayers.

Mr. pacfan,

Here's one scenario on what might happen in the Hoya-PAC fight... ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4
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I made a post on some other thread about something like this. I NEEDED convincing because the only outcome I see is Oscar knocking out Pac brutally. Anything else would be a victory in itself.

C'MON PAC!!! PROVE ME WRONG!

He needs to only come in when he is throwing shots, otherwise stay fully out of Oscar's range and hope that Oscar doesn't impose himself which he has never been known for doing fully. Pacquiao needs to either do that or swamp Oscar with workrate, and hope he can handle Oscar's power.

Dear Mr. pacfan,

Here's one boxing writer's imagination of the fight outcome;

"De La Hoya’s greatest weapon is a hybrid left hook/uppercut he calls his “45” – the angle at which the punch is delivered. But Pacquiao’s southpaw stance neutralizes much of its effect. De La Hoya’s 45 is best thrown over an oncoming orthodox fighter’s lowered right hand. That fighter’s chin sits at the end of De La Hoya’s extended left arm. Pacquiao’s chin will be closer and moving forward faster. Pacquiao’s right hand will be higher – for being in the lead.

With his 45 neutralized De La Hoya has to rely on his jab. But Pacquiao’s awfully quick. If he can slip De La Hoya’s jab he can pressure De La Hoya. Then it becomes a battle between Pacquiao’s left cross and De La Hoya’s right. Thirty pounds or otherwise, my money is on Pacquiao’s left.

So let’s imagine Pacquiao catches De La Hoya straight on the beard with a leaping left cross. De La Hoya drops. He rises. Then Pacquiao attacks, the best closer since Alec Baldwin in “Glengarry Glen Ross.” And De La Hoya withstands the onslaught. Now what?

De La Hoya has an opportunity to adjust, survive and outmaneuver both Pacquiao and trainer Freddie Roach – De La Hoya’s one-time trainer. If he can do this then win decisively, he can save his franchise.

How about that? A well-matched fight with ebb and flow and someone hitting the blue mat. Sounds like a recipe for any great fight. Maybe “The Dream Match” isn’t so different after all.

Time for a pick, then? No. I still don’t know who’s going to win."

Respectfully,

SaddoBoxer ;D

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Now that's not exactly the kind of encouragement I had in mind... go on...

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i think maybe pac has a slim chance.. he is a live underdog.. who knows... will that make you feel better? ;)

Pac is going to make ODLH look like an old man... - Fact (had to borrow that one for a second Fenster)



Enjoy your week of anxiety... it'll be worth it for the celebrations on Sunday..

Mr. pacfan,

This statement coming from the man himself, Manny "PACMAN" Pacquiao...

"I know both of us, there's pressure on each other. Especially for me, it's a big pressure because a lot of people are saying I'm small and I took this fight because of money. But I want to show the people that I accepted this fight because I have a big chance to win and I want to show the people - especially the Filipino people - that I'll win in this fight and bring honor to the country."

;D

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pac get hits too easilly to win this im afraid,

the best he can hope for is to try and stay away from de la hoya as much as possible darting in and out (and definatley NOT staying inside) and wait for oscar to tire which he will do

the weight still seems a bit of an odd issue to consider for me

in the tale of De La Hoya - Trinidad Oscar said he was killing himself to make weight and even had to weigh in nude to get down to 147, now how many years ago was that fight, almost a decade, but now suddenly at 35 he can do it ?

something doesnt ring true, i just cannot see Oscar making it and i am prepared to be dissapointed like i was when the guzman - cambell fight got cancelled

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It wont be cancelled cuz of weight . If Oscars over he pays Pac summat like a million dollars for every pound he is over . I think he can make the weight. Anyone can make weight its just being strong at the weight that counts. Whats worrying was I heard Oscar say that he was light headed when he came down in weight . Thats not a good sign but I still think he wins if he lets his skills do the business for him

If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....

I don't think Pac has any chance.. i'm afraid Mr. Pacfan.

Pac is going to look like a midget compared with Oscar. He's gonna be hit harder than ever before. His punches are going to have less impact than ever before.

If he makes it the distance it should be seen as a moral victory.

This fight will play out just like B-Hop vs Oscar. Only this time Oscar is B-Hop and Manny rolls around on the canvas pounding his fist. Ok maybe not like that but it really dosen't look good. Manny is very underated at getting in throwing and getting out. The only one really who caught him coming in and out is Marquez. In theory Oscar starts fast and fades in the late rounds. I think this time around Manny's workrate will take over early and even make Oscar look bad and old, but as the fight goes on all that natural weight and power will start to show up and wear Manny down. I'm going with a 10th KO from Oscar.

He's got to outspeed him and not take too many big shots. Hopefully he can but highly unlikely, he almost certainly gets stopped or KO'd.

Anything can happen in boxing. Pac might come into this fight with a brilliant performance and totally frustrate Oscar. Oscar might look old and shot come fight night. It's just that these scenerios are highly unlikely. Oscar is older and not been as active...sure. But he is no Eric Morales. Morales had been in so many wars even before he was 30. And he always had to kill himself to make 130. Oscar, for all the great fighters he has faced, isn't beat down like that. If Oscar comes into this fight in shape and sharp...you have ot go with logic...and say he wins. If Manny pulls the huge upset...mad props to him. I just don't see it happening.

theres a lot of misconception with pac and filipinos in general. being able to land a punch on oscar is already a victory for manny. besides the money, pac taking on a bigger better fighter in oscar is already a victory on manny's part. most of us who are born back home, making it over to the US is already a victory. everything else is just part of the struggle. take a look at pac, he came from nothing to fighting the ppv king of boxing. thats a victory in itself. answering the bell during fight night is a victory. and even if pac loses as long as he fought his best which i know he will, that is a victory too.

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If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....

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that's right, anything can happen in this fight considering that it's at 147lbs, a weight oscar hasn't been at in more than 7 years. if oscar doesn't put enough damage to pac in the early rounds he just might find himself scraping the bottom of the barrel for some energy just to finish the fight. then again, one flush hit from oscar could end it for pac. i hope pac can stay away from de la hoya's biggest bomb throughout the bout.

pacfan, this a message from pacquiao, "Relax lang kayo, masyado naman kayong kinakabahan," he told those present in a lunch he hosted on Sunday. "Masyado kayong tense e. Relax lang kayo," he said smiling.

If Pacquiao reaches DLH with anything which can hurt the guy, he has a chance... Only thing that DLH needs is to maintain his composure and not lose steam... or else, its gonna be a date with the mat for sure.:) I'd be at work come this day... the agony...:eek: has anybody tried this site out in their area?

Pacquiao Vs. Dela Hoya

planning to sneak a view or two while they ain't looking :p wish it would available where I'm at though:-\

Initially, I thought Pac was going to win, but the more I think about it, the more I believe that was just wishful thinking on my part. I still think Pac has a shot, but I'm leaning heavily towards ODH at this point. Unless Oscar is devestated by the weight loss and really shows his age, I don't rationally see how Pac can win.

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Initially, I thought Pac was going to win, but the more I think about it, the more I believe that was just wishful thinking on my part. I still think Pac has a shot, but I'm leaning heavily towards ODH at this point. Unless Oscar is devestated by the weight loss and really shows his age, I don't rationally see how Pac can win.

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This fight is killing me.;D;D;D


Things I love to see during the fight:
1. I would love to see Pac KOs de la hoya even just once. :lickish:
2. Pacquaio's background song when he enters should be the "Impossible Dream". That song is my all-time favorite.;D..... a song that is very apt for that moment.

Thanks fellas, for your help...
...in adding to my confusion...


...I think I'll just get some aspirins...


Where are the rest of the gangs, Icey, Spicoli, Lefty, Chino, p4pking, etc...
come on down here and make some contributions for world peace... I mean this pacfan's peace of mind...

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If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....

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You got to be kidding me homie ?

Freddie Roach is becoming more deluded as the days pass by.

He said recently glass chinned Amir Khan can beat Ricky Hatton, that is a beyond absurd statement.

He also said Izzy Vasquez shouldn't take the Marquez 2 fight.

Stated Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight :rolleyes:

The day I believe something out of Freddie Roach's mouth is the day Pig's fly.

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If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....

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You got to be kidding me homie ?

Freddie Roach is becoming more deluded as the days pass by.

He said recently glass chinned Amir Khan can beat Ricky Hatton, that is a beyond absurd statement.

He also said Izzy Vasquez shouldn't take the Marquez 2 fight.

Stated Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight :rolleyes:

The day I believe something out of Freddie Roach's mouth is the day Pig's fly.

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Spot on. I have lost a lot of respect for Roach recently. He has become a major trash talker...and it just doesn't suit him. I think it's a potentially HUGE mistake for him to be talking so much trash about Oscar. I know he could be trying to hype the fight up and take pressure of his fighter...but it could backfire. Oscar is still a very good fighter...someone who has been in so many "mega" fights...not smart to put a flame under a champion. His opinions have been off recently as well. Manny is his meal ticket...if it wasn't for Pac, Roach doesn't have a lot to fall back on.

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Its so nice when you a right ;D

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Its so nice when you a right ;D

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;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D;D

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Its so nice when you a right ;D

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True sign of a man that gets things WRONG most of the time ;D

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Its so nice when you a right ;D

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True sign of a man that gets things WRONG most of the time ;D

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HAHAHA yes im going to make the most of this !!!! ;D

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Its so nice when you a right ;D

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Your incredible prediction is duly recognized! Enjoy your new-found fame, but forget the fortune - it'll probably follow next.;D;)