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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by hitmanhatton View Post
    pac get hits too easilly to win this im afraid,

    the best he can hope for is to try and stay away from de la hoya as much as possible darting in and out (and definatley NOT staying inside) and wait for oscar to tire which he will do

    the weight still seems a bit of an odd issue to consider for me

    in the tale of De La Hoya - Trinidad Oscar said he was killing himself to make weight and even had to weigh in nude to get down to 147, now how many years ago was that fight, almost a decade, but now suddenly at 35 he can do it ?

    something doesnt ring true, i just cannot see Oscar making it and i am prepared to be dissapointed like i was when the guzman - cambell fight got cancelled
    It wont be cancelled cuz of weight . If Oscars over he pays Pac summat like a million dollars for every pound he is over . I think he can make the weight. Anyone can make weight its just being strong at the weight that counts. Whats worrying was I heard Oscar say that he was light headed when he came down in weight . Thats not a good sign but I still think he wins if he lets his skills do the business for him

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
    Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
    Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.
    i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    I don't think Pac has any chance.. i'm afraid Mr. Pacfan.

    Pac is going to look like a midget compared with Oscar. He's gonna be hit harder than ever before. His punches are going to have less impact than ever before.

    If he makes it the distance it should be seen as a moral victory.
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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    This fight will play out just like B-Hop vs Oscar. Only this time Oscar is B-Hop and Manny rolls around on the canvas pounding his fist. Ok maybe not like that but it really dosen't look good. Manny is very underated at getting in throwing and getting out. The only one really who caught him coming in and out is Marquez. In theory Oscar starts fast and fades in the late rounds. I think this time around Manny's workrate will take over early and even make Oscar look bad and old, but as the fight goes on all that natural weight and power will start to show up and wear Manny down. I'm going with a 10th KO from Oscar.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    He's got to outspeed him and not take too many big shots. Hopefully he can but highly unlikely, he almost certainly gets stopped or KO'd.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Anything can happen in boxing. Pac might come into this fight with a brilliant performance and totally frustrate Oscar. Oscar might look old and shot come fight night. It's just that these scenerios are highly unlikely. Oscar is older and not been as active...sure. But he is no Eric Morales. Morales had been in so many wars even before he was 30. And he always had to kill himself to make 130. Oscar, for all the great fighters he has faced, isn't beat down like that. If Oscar comes into this fight in shape and sharp...you have ot go with logic...and say he wins. If Manny pulls the huge upset...mad props to him. I just don't see it happening.

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    theres a lot of misconception with pac and filipinos in general. being able to land a punch on oscar is already a victory for manny. besides the money, pac taking on a bigger better fighter in oscar is already a victory on manny's part. most of us who are born back home, making it over to the US is already a victory. everything else is just part of the struggle. take a look at pac, he came from nothing to fighting the ppv king of boxing. thats a victory in itself. answering the bell during fight night is a victory. and even if pac loses as long as he fought his best which i know he will, that is a victory too.
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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
    Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.
    i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....
    that's right, anything can happen in this fight considering that it's at 147lbs, a weight oscar hasn't been at in more than 7 years. if oscar doesn't put enough damage to pac in the early rounds he just might find himself scraping the bottom of the barrel for some energy just to finish the fight. then again, one flush hit from oscar could end it for pac. i hope pac can stay away from de la hoya's biggest bomb throughout the bout.

    pacfan, this a message from pacquiao, "Relax lang kayo, masyado naman kayong kinakabahan," he told those present in a lunch he hosted on Sunday. "Masyado kayong tense e. Relax lang kayo," he said smiling.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    If Pacquiao reaches DLH with anything which can hurt the guy, he has a chance... Only thing that DLH needs is to maintain his composure and not lose steam... or else, its gonna be a date with the mat for sure. I'd be at work come this day... the agony... has anybody tried this site out in their area?

    Pacquiao Vs. Dela Hoya

    planning to sneak a view or two while they ain't looking wish it would available where I'm at though

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Initially, I thought Pac was going to win, but the more I think about it, the more I believe that was just wishful thinking on my part. I still think Pac has a shot, but I'm leaning heavily towards ODH at this point. Unless Oscar is devestated by the weight loss and really shows his age, I don't rationally see how Pac can win.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Initially, I thought Pac was going to win, but the more I think about it, the more I believe that was just wishful thinking on my part. I still think Pac has a shot, but I'm leaning heavily towards ODH at this point. Unless Oscar is devestated by the weight loss and really shows his age, I don't rationally see how Pac can win.
    This fight is killing me.


    Things I love to see during the fight:
    1. I would love to see Pac KOs de la hoya even just once.
    2. Pacquaio's background song when he enters should be the "Impossible Dream". That song is my all-time favorite...... a song that is very apt for that moment.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Thanks fellas, for your help...
    ...in adding to my confusion...


    ...I think I'll just get some aspirins...


    Where are the rest of the gangs, Icey, Spicoli, Lefty, Chino, p4pking, etc...
    come on down here and make some contributions for world peace... I mean this pacfan's peace of mind...
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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
    Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.
    i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....
    You got to be kidding me homie ?

    Freddie Roach is becoming more deluded as the days pass by.

    He said recently glass chinned Amir Khan can beat Ricky Hatton, that is a beyond absurd statement.

    He also said Izzy Vasquez shouldn't take the Marquez 2 fight.

    Stated Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight

    The day I believe something out of Freddie Roach's mouth is the day Pig's fly.
    Last edited by leftylee; 12-02-2008 at 04:58 PM.

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    Default Re: Pac - dela Hoya, it's a week before the fight, tell me boys...

    Quote Originally Posted by leftylee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    If I was a Pac fan,Id be worried sick right now,I havent seen DLH work this hard in forever.
    Pacs best hopes are that either age finally catches Oscar,or that Roach isnt blowing smoke and really did see a serious flaw in Oscars game,that Nacho cant fix.
    i think oscar may come to this fight like how eric came in for the third fight. overtrained and thin and couldn't gain back his weight after the weigh in. if that happens to oscar then oscar is in trouble. Plus i have faith in Freddy Roach, he wont put pac in danger. If he said he know pac will beat oscar then that means his dead serious. Ofcourse anything can happen in boxing so who knows....
    You got to be kidding me homie ?

    Freddie Roach is becoming more deluded as the days pass by.

    He said recently glass chinned Amir Khan can beat Ricky Hatton, that is a beyond absurd statement.

    He also said Izzy Vasquez shouldn't take the Marquez 2 fight.

    Stated Hopkins would get badly hurt in the Pavlik fight

    The day I believe something out of Freddie Roach's mouth is the day Pig's fly.
    Spot on. I have lost a lot of respect for Roach recently. He has become a major trash talker...and it just doesn't suit him. I think it's a potentially HUGE mistake for him to be talking so much trash about Oscar. I know he could be trying to hype the fight up and take pressure of his fighter...but it could backfire. Oscar is still a very good fighter...someone who has been in so many "mega" fights...not smart to put a flame under a champion. His opinions have been off recently as well. Manny is his meal ticket...if it wasn't for Pac, Roach doesn't have a lot to fall back on.

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