De La Hoya's next opponent

SO this is very interesting, The Ring (Oscar's magazine) has printed this article saying we (the public) know Oscar's not at the top of his game anymore but although he's not one of the games elite, there are still fights out there that make sense. They list the following:

Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Julio C. Chavez Jr.
Zab Judah
Ike Quartay

So this is a two part question

A. Are any of these fights worth making?
B. IS Oscar using the magazine to try to lure these fighters into the ring?

If De La Hoya fights on, here's 5 opponents he might consider

If he gives Judah that payday, I will hunt him down and kill him in his panty-wearing sleep.

If Mosley beat Margarito, I'd see him angling a fight.

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Originally Posted by OnixAA

SO this is very interesting, The Ring (Oscar's magazine) has printed this article saying we (the public) know Oscar's not at the top of his game anymore but although he's not one of the games elite, there are still fights out there that make sense. They list the following:

Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Julio C. Chavez Jr.
Zab Judah
Ike Quartay

So this is a two part question

A. Are any of these fights worth making?
B. IS Oscar using the magazine to try to lure these fighters into the ring?

If De La Hoya fights on, here's 5 opponents he might consider

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Oscar doesn't need the magazine to lure fighters into the ring. All he has to do is say "I want to fight you." Usually works for him

My first question is why? He has all the money in the world. Plus a once great career is now turning into a joke. Please retire Oscar.

He's fighting reality and what he might have left....and he is behind on points.Put a fork in him....seriously!

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Originally Posted by mrbig1

My first question is why? He has all the money in the world. Plus a once great career is now turning into a joke. Please retire Oscar.

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I agree its time to call it a day. Taking nothing away from Pac but the ODLH that fought Trinidad at WW would have destroyed him IMO.

Look, this guy needs to go ahead and retire, but I guess I understand him at least wanting to leave on a winning note.


Sidenote: I just realized in some ways ODLH-Trinidad is kinda similar to Cotto-Margarito. ODLH & Cotto were the better boxers and boxed effectively for the first eight rounds of the fight and showed their superiority in doing it. But both wasted so much energy in boxing/moving that it was impossible to keep that pace for a full 12 rounds. The difference between the two fights is that Cotto has too much fighter in him and also couldn't deal with the massive pressure Margarito put on him so he went out on his shield. ODLH on the other hand, ran for dear life and was extremely lucky that Trinidad is also somewhat of a boxer too and didn't display the type of pressure Margarito did.

Oscar is as done as they come.

I will laugh if they try to flog any of this rubbish as PPV. The old drag queen should just retire.

I think De La Hoya till has plenty of fight left in him at light middle, probably even welter, he and his team did himself no favours trying to psych Freddie and Manny out by coming in 2 lbs under the limit and keeping so low so long before the fight.

Those extra 2 pounds would have been the difference between him standing still and actually fighting back.

Im not a particular fan of Oscars but he is deffinitly a better fighter than the moron who did nothing against Manny, normally a face first fighter like Pac would suit Oscar, he just had nothing in the tank because of coming in so low.

He may have completely tired out his body, at least for a good few months anyway, if he really wants a big win to finish on I think hes gonna HAVE to take another soft fight between, a deffinite guaranteed win, to guage where hes at before he embarrasses himself again.

To be honest non of those fights are worth watching anyway because I dont find Oscars style very astheticaly pleasing, he needs to be in a tear up for his last fight, just a good ol scrap, so id say chance his luck and fight Margarito after he beats Shane at a weight that suits Oscar.

Even as one of the biggest Oscar-haters here, I'd probably start feeling a bit sorry for Oscar if he were deluded enough to get into the ring again. It would be just plain sad.

I think Oscar is shot mentally, more than physically as a fighter. For one it seems he lets what he perceives to be the public's opinion cloud his judgment. In the Mayweather fight he was winning with his jab. I realize some credit is probably due to Mayweather adjusting his game plan, but I almost thought I could hear ODLH wheels turning in his head, "I have to be more exciting!", so he started trying to rough MW up and abandoned his jab that was winning the fight for him.

With Pac, I don't think he really wanted a real fight. Look at who he picked as a warm-up: Steve Forbes. In that fight he looked very uncomfortable with the punishment his face was taking. Then he takes on Pac, probably thinking he's not in much danger of getting hurt. When he perceives the criticism for picking on someone small, he makes the stupid decision to come in light.

In the Pac fight he actually had a chance to at least make a fight of it, but either didn't realize it, or didn't have the cajones to commit. A couple of times he pushed Pac into the ropes and had some success. I think if he had done that a lot more (esp. if he'd put some weight back on), he could have at least made a respectable fight out of it, maybe won.

Of course, this is the exact opposite of the scenario with Mayweather. In one fight you have him abandoning what was working, and in the other you have him not able to switch to plan B, even though he had some success with it, and they're flip sides of the same coin! To be fair, it seemed like his corner in the pac fight couldn't make any adjustments in their game plan either.

Boxing is too serious a sport to be fucking around half assed with, and Oscar's PPV potential has to be greatly diminished, but somehow fighters seem to just get more delusional...

As an Oscar fan I would say he has nothing left but who the hell am I to tell him to stop fighting and making money. True he has made more money than anyone in the ring beside's maybe Tyson. If he wants to fight what the hell why not. I would take Tito have a tune-up a on the same card as Tito to build it up then boom The Rematch is set.

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Originally Posted by The Fightfan

As an Oscar fan I would say he has nothing left but who the hell am I to tell him to stop fighting and making money. True he has made more money than anyone in the ring beside's maybe Tyson. If he wants to fight what the hell why not. I would take Tito have a tune-up a on the same card as Tito to build it up then boom The Rematch is set.

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Nobody should ever pay to watch Oscar again though, its known as fraud.

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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I would never pay to watch Oscar Delahoya. As any self respecting individual would abstain from doing so too! I saw him get beaten up for free here, and if he would like to recieve a bigger beating from Cotto or Margarito, I guess I would watch the same for free too. If people want to pay for such a charade
then its down to them I guess. Each to their own. ;D

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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Why not just have him stand in freeway traffic? You'd get just about the same result.

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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Why not just have him stand in freeway traffic? You'd get just about the same result.

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I would actually pay to see him cut down by a lawnmower. At least a few dollars gained there. ;D

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As an Oscar fan I would say he has nothing left but who the hell am I to tell him to stop fighting and making money. True he has made more money than anyone in the ring beside's maybe Tyson. If he wants to fight what the hell why not. I would take Tito have a tune-up a on the same card as Tito to build it up then boom The Rematch is set.

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Nobody should ever pay to watch Oscar again though, its known as fraud.

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Do you realize there are still people who think Mike Tyson can become heavyweight champ. Honestly now people you would talk to at the gym would say "well he still has a punch" That is just sad. If some way he does come back you wouldn't watch his return ? I don't know about you personally but I know many who would buy it just for Tyson.

I think Cotto will be a great fight, as long Oscar wins these fight he will have a chance to redeem himself he is great fighter a fighter will always fight it is in the heart! :mad:

Oscar's next opponent should be anyone in the new Fight Night Round 4 game..

The only way he should fight again is by playing that game, on his couch.

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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Why not just have him stand in freeway traffic? You'd get just about the same result.

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You might be right there, TitoFan. Same reason why I posted the same. If DeLaHoya insists that he can still hack it, , then he should do so, regardless if it is to pay forth with extreme consequences. No little white gloves from me, No!

For those big names tho, its enough for me to shun some goodies, and charge the card for HBO's services. $49.95!

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

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Why not just have him stand in freeway traffic? You'd get just about the same result.

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You might be right there, TitoFan. Same reason why I posted the same. If DeLaHoya insists that he can still hack it, , then he should do so, regardless if it is to pay forth with extreme consequences. No little white gloves from me, No!

For those big names tho, its enough for me to shun some goodies, and charge the card for HBO's services. $49.95!

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agree.. i mean, you can only hear the "i failed my jab, my jab didn't fail me" and "he was the better man tonight" excuses so many times..

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Originally Posted by mod777

I think Cotto will be a great fight, as long Oscar wins these fight he will have a chance to redeem himself he is great fighter a fighter will always fight it is in the heart! :mad:

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I take it you did not see the DLH-Pacquiao fight.

i would watch DLH against any of those guys, as long as not PPV.

i have a feeling he got one more fight in him then retire, he has to go out on a good note.

He should fight Tito and call it a career.

Fight Tito? If they do, I can see Tito REALLY REALLY REALLY winning this time around. He looked less rusty in his last fight compared to ODLH.

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Fight Tito? If they do, I can see Tito REALLY REALLY REALLY winning this time around. He looked less rusty in his last fight compared to ODLH.

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Maybe. I'd favor Tito. Since he's coming off a decision loss to Roy Jones and Oscar is coming off a TKO loss to Pacquaio.

Sounds weird saying that. lol

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Originally Posted by mod777

I think Cotto will be a great fight, as long Oscar wins these fight he will have a chance to redeem himself he is great fighter a fighter will always fight it is in the heart! :mad:

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I take it you did not see the DLH-Pacquiao fight.

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If that ODLH fought Cotto at 147. I'm sorry but Cotto would have eaten ODLH ALIVE!!! ODLH would have left that ring in a body bag around round 4.

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Fight Tito? If they do, I can see Tito REALLY REALLY REALLY winning this time around. He looked less rusty in his last fight compared to ODLH.

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Maybe. I'd favor Tito. Since he's coming off a decision loss to Roy Jones and Oscar is coming off a TKO loss to Pacquaio.
Sounds weird saying that. lol

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Not only that. I mean, sure, Tito got knocked down a couple of times but somehow made it to the decision. ODLH simply didn't and the fight got stopped. I know it may sound weird as both lost but I'll say Tito looked in better shape, willing to fight, good stance, etc. He simply picked on a bigger guy. I still see some gas in the tank for Tito, not Oscar. And this time around, I can REALLY see Tito beating ODLH.

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If that ODLH fought Cotto at 147. I'm sorry but Cotto would have eaten ODLH ALIVE!!! ODLH would have left that ring in a body bag around round 4.

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Unless they fought around the time Oscar faced Tito and Quartey.

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Originally Posted by OnixAA

SO this is very interesting, The Ring (Oscar's magazine) has printed this article saying we (the public) know Oscar's not at the top of his game anymore but although he's not one of the games elite, there are still fights out there that make sense. They list the following:

Felix Trinidad
Shane Mosley
Julio C. Chavez Jr.
Zab Judah
Ike Quartay

So this is a two part question

A. Are any of these fights worth making?
B. IS Oscar using the magazine to try to lure these fighters into the ring?

If De La Hoya fights on, here's 5 opponents he might consider

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oscar de la hoya should retire in my opinion. hes just not got it anymore. It baffles me to think he still commands the big pay days.

It's time to retire and stick to making fights as a promoter only!

I'd love to see him fight Cotto or Mayweather again. I need to prove something about ODLH.:cool:

Yes, Oscar must fight again.

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Originally Posted by brucelee

I'd love to see him fight Cotto or Mayweather again. I need to prove something about ODLH.:cool:

Yes, Oscar must fight again.

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He gets the same kind of pasting at 147 againsed any top 10 welter I think.

I'm going with JCC Jr. and I think that's the fight they're looking at.

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Originally Posted by Tenshio

I'm going with JCC Jr. and I think that's the fight they're looking at.

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I think he might fight Chavez Jr too. Problem is I see him beating Jr and then thinking he is the top dog in boxing again which will only lead him into another crushing defeat. RETIRE NOW.

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I think he might fight Chavez Jr too. Problem is I see him beating Jr and then thinking he is the top dog in boxing again which will only lead him into another crushing defeat. RETIRE NOW

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I see it going both ways. If Chavez Jr. beats him, he might also think he’s the top dog for beating ODLH forgetting that ODLH is passed his prime. It happens all the time whenever someone beats a big name regardless of that big name being passed his prime. Fans seem to forget that.

Oscar has to fight atleast once more cuz he cant end a great career by getting stopped by a little man

He has to redeem his reputation as best he can and at light middleweight

Chavez Jnr makes most sense. I wouldnt advise he goes anywhere near Sugar Shane again.

Oscars Next Opponent=Time

Let Oscar carry on and make a mug of himself because his ego cannot accept that he is a shell of a fighter was never that great anyway.