De La Hoya's next opponent

[mrbig1]

My first question is why? He has all the money in the world. Plus a once great career is now turning into a joke. Please retire Oscar.

[Spicoli]

He's fighting reality and what he might have left....and he is behind on points.Put a fork in him....seriously!

[rjj tszyu]

My first question is why? He has all the money in the world. Plus a once great career is now turning into a joke. Please retire Oscar.

I agree its time to call it a day. Taking nothing away from Pac but the ODLH that fought Trinidad at WW would have destroyed him IMO.

[albsur2006]

Look, this guy needs to go ahead and retire, but I guess I understand him at least wanting to leave on a winning note.


Sidenote: I just realized in some ways ODLH-Trinidad is kinda similar to Cotto-Margarito. ODLH & Cotto were the better boxers and boxed effectively for the first eight rounds of the fight and showed their superiority in doing it. But both wasted so much energy in boxing/moving that it was impossible to keep that pace for a full 12 rounds. The difference between the two fights is that Cotto has too much fighter in him and also couldn't deal with the massive pressure Margarito put on him so he went out on his shield. ODLH on the other hand, ran for dear life and was extremely lucky that Trinidad is also somewhat of a boxer too and didn't display the type of pressure Margarito did.

[Gandalf]

Oscar is as done as they come.

I will laugh if they try to flog any of this rubbish as PPV. The old drag queen should just retire.

[ross]

I think De La Hoya till has plenty of fight left in him at light middle, probably even welter, he and his team did himself no favours trying to psych Freddie and Manny out by coming in 2 lbs under the limit and keeping so low so long before the fight.

Those extra 2 pounds would have been the difference between him standing still and actually fighting back.

Im not a particular fan of Oscars but he is deffinitly a better fighter than the moron who did nothing against Manny, normally a face first fighter like Pac would suit Oscar, he just had nothing in the tank because of coming in so low.

He may have completely tired out his body, at least for a good few months anyway, if he really wants a big win to finish on I think hes gonna HAVE to take another soft fight between, a deffinite guaranteed win, to guage where hes at before he embarrasses himself again.

To be honest non of those fights are worth watching anyway because I dont find Oscars style very astheticaly pleasing, he needs to be in a tear up for his last fight, just a good ol scrap, so id say chance his luck and fight Margarito after he beats Shane at a weight that suits Oscar.

[TitoFan]

Even as one of the biggest Oscar-haters here, I'd probably start feeling a bit sorry for Oscar if he were deluded enough to get into the ring again. It would be just plain sad.

[The Fightfan]

As an Oscar fan I would say he has nothing left but who the hell am I to tell him to stop fighting and making money. True he has made more money than anyone in the ring beside's maybe Tyson. If he wants to fight what the hell why not. I would take Tito have a tune-up a on the same card as Tito to build it up then boom The Rematch is set.

[Gandalf]

As an Oscar fan I would say he has nothing left but who the hell am I to tell him to stop fighting and making money. True he has made more money than anyone in the ring beside's maybe Tyson. If he wants to fight what the hell why not. I would take Tito have a tune-up a on the same card as Tito to build it up then boom The Rematch is set.

Nobody should ever pay to watch Oscar again though, its known as fraud.

[KananKrus]

Last time I checked, It's a free country. Allow the man to do what he wants to. He should therefore, go after Margarito or Cotto, if he really wants to prove anything. They are the fighters whom he was accused of ducking. If he thinks he still got it, for the love of boxing, let the man fight. I'd pay to watch it. Anyone?

[Myk_Myk]

I think Oscar is shot mentally, more than physically as a fighter. For one it seems he lets what he perceives to be the public's opinion cloud his judgment. In the Mayweather fight he was winning with his jab. I realize some credit is probably due to Mayweather adjusting his game plan, but I almost thought I could hear ODLH wheels turning in his head, "I have to be more exciting!", so he started trying to rough MW up and abandoned his jab that was winning the fight for him.

With Pac, I don't think he really wanted a real fight. Look at who he picked as a warm-up: Steve Forbes. In that fight he looked very uncomfortable with the punishment his face was taking. Then he takes on Pac, probably thinking he's not in much danger of getting hurt. When he perceives the criticism for picking on someone small, he makes the stupid decision to come in light.

In the Pac fight he actually had a chance to at least make a fight of it, but either didn't realize it, or didn't have the cajones to commit. A couple of times he pushed Pac into the ropes and had some success. I think if he had done that a lot more (esp. if he'd put some weight back on), he could have at least made a respectable fight out of it, maybe won.

Of course, this is the exact opposite of the scenario with Mayweather. In one fight you have him abandoning what was working, and in the other you have him not able to switch to plan B, even though he had some success with it, and they're flip sides of the same coin! To be fair, it seemed like his corner in the pac fight couldn't make any adjustments in their game plan either.

Boxing is too serious a sport to be fucking around half assed with, and Oscar's PPV potential has to be greatly diminished, but somehow fighters seem to just get more delusional...

[miron_lang]

My first question is why? He has all the money in the world. Plus a once great career is now turning into a joke. Please retire Oscar.

I agree its time to call it a day. Taking nothing away from Pac but the ODLH that fought Trinidad at WW would have destroyed him IMO.

That DLH ran in the last quarter.

29 year old PAC beats DLH of any age.

Pacquiao already beat DLH Fact.

[Chino]

Pacquiao already beat DLH Fact

Yes, Pac beat an old, passed his prime, worned out, out of gas, ODLH. Why do people ignore this all the time? Tell me something, how do you think things would be if Kevin McBride (Kevin McWho?) faced Tyson at least 5 years before the fight. How would things turn out if Sugar Ray Leonard fought Terri Norris or Macho Camacho at least 5 years earlier? What if Muhammad Ali faced Trevor Berbick at least 5 years before? What does that tell you? That fighters that are passed their primes look like amateurs when they stay in the ring longer than they should only to pump up any guy's resume and make him look like the best thing out there.
Remember the ODLH that faced Tito Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Bernard Hopkins (eventhough he lost that one), etc.? Look at ODLH speeed, piercing fast jab, legs, hooks, uppercuts, body punches, etc. Imagine if he paced ANYBODY from present time, back in those days. He made the bad decision to stay in the ring longer than he should, drain himself like he did where he even ended up weighting less than Pac! He took a taste of his own medicine just like when he faced old worned out JC Chavez instead of facing JC Chavez at least 5 years before.
Pac is good! No doubt. Keeps improving things here and there with every fight but let's not forget where ODLH was when he faced him. Interestingly, even Pac and his whole team acknowledged this!

[GAME]

Pacquiao already beat DLH Fact

Yes, Pac beat an old, passed his prime, worned out, out of gas, ODLH. Why do people ignore this all the time? Tell me something, how do you think things would be if Kevin McBride (Kevin McWho?) faced Tyson at least 5 years before the fight. How would things turn out if Sugar Ray Leonard fought Terri Norris or Macho Camacho at least 5 years earlier? What if Muhammad Ali faced Trevor Berbick at least 5 years before? What does that tell you? That fighters that are passed their primes look like amateurs when they stay in the ring longer than they should only to pump up any guy's resume and make him look like the best thing out there.
Remember the ODLH that faced Tito Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Bernard Hopkins (eventhough he lost that one), etc.? Look at ODLH speeed, piercing fast jab, legs, hooks, uppercuts, body punches, etc. Imagine if he paced ANYBODY from present time, back in those days. He made the bad decision to stay in the ring longer than he should, drain himself like he did where he even ended up weighting less than Pac! He took a taste of his own medicine just like when he faced old worned out JC Chavez instead of facing JC Chavez at least 5 years before.
Pac is good! No doubt. Keeps improving things here and there with every fight but let's not forget where ODLH was when he faced him. Interestingly, even Pac and his whole team acknowledged this!

I bet If Berbick had a nation of fans behind him they would all be saying how he dominated a prime Ali

[Chino]

Pacquiao already beat DLH Fact

Yes, Pac beat an old, passed his prime, worned out, out of gas, ODLH. Why do people ignore this all the time? Tell me something, how do you think things would be if Kevin McBride (Kevin McWho?) faced Tyson at least 5 years before the fight. How would things turn out if Sugar Ray Leonard fought Terri Norris or Macho Camacho at least 5 years earlier? What if Muhammad Ali faced Trevor Berbick at least 5 years before? What does that tell you? That fighters that are passed their primes look like amateurs when they stay in the ring longer than they should only to pump up any guy's resume and make him look like the best thing out there.
Remember the ODLH that faced Tito Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Bernard Hopkins (even though he lost that one), etc.? Look at ODLH speeed, piercing fast jab, legs, hooks, uppercuts, body punches, etc. Imagine if he paced ANYBODY from present time, back in those days. He made the bad decision to stay in the ring longer than he should, drain himself like he did where he even ended up weighting less than Pac! He took a taste of his own medicine just like when he faced old worned out JC Chavez instead of facing JC Chavez at least 5 years before.
Pac is good! No doubt. Keeps improving things here and there with every fight but let's not forget where ODLH was when he faced him. Interestingly, even Pac and his whole team acknowledged this!

I bet If Berbick had a nation of fans behind him they would all be saying how he dominated a prime Ali

Imagine! If Berbick had hardcore fans and groupies they would ignore that same fact that Ali was simply passed his prime, old, etc.
See, that is the thing! Hardcore fans, groupies, and the casual fan will ignore the fact that a fighter was passed his prime, old, worned out, out of gas, drained, etc. They just pay attention to the fact that their guy won. I've had this discussion with hardcore Pac fans over and over and when I ask them about ODLH being in his prime or not and telling them what Pac and his whole team even acknowledged they just skip it or ignore it. There are other fights Pac has won and I have praised but not the one against ODLH for the reasons already mentioned.