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And yet here we are, just hours away from our first black President of these here United States of America :lickish:
God Bless America
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http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008..._obama_300.jpg
PS and LMAO, I was just watching the news and who do they show in the crowd? None other than Don King.
"Only in America!"
his mother is WHITE? That makes him tanned at best.
LOL ok but he is still considered black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Missy
On a side note..
They are showing Ali and he looks terrible, Ali does not look like he will live much longer :eek:
Black or white, he is still a politician. The early signs are promising, but dont expect any big changes here. He's still a right of centre Democrat.
the puppet on the left is to my liking, hmm, the puppet on the right is to my liking.
Ah shut up party pooper :mr-t:Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
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Fair enough. :rolleyes:;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GAh shut up party pooper :mr-t:Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
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Its your day over there. I was always a supporter of Obama, though. Certainly beats any republican freak getting in again.
If obama is a great president then I don't think that any major changes he will brings will really be seen until he is out of office (unless he has at least 2 terms)
He's got so much shit left over from the bush administration, got to pull out of Iraq without it crumbling like a jenga tower, got to fix the economy and deal with a lot of strained diplomatic relations (I see relations with other countries as taking the least time)
Even though these seeds have been planted years ago I'd hate to see Obama take the blame for things like the economy... shame it didn't come to a head a few months ago instead of as he's getting inaugurated
He certainly seems to have united the states, it reminds me when Blair came to government and we saw the end of the Tories. Hope it does not end the same way for him.
As a Yank,Ive never seen this country so enthused and united for a President,I understand,as does most of the country,that he's got a hell of a mess to clean up.
But anything,including a statue,would be better then whats happened over the years
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Originally Posted by Missy
Well said Missy, if a person has a white parent and a black parent why can black's claim him any more than whites?
If you want to call him black then I'll go through the motherly lineage and claim he's another white President.
At best you can call him a step towards an eventual truly black President.
It's inconsistent to claim that Obama is totally black but then argue (as most do on here) that transexuals arn't totally female.
If my partiality to beautiful Asian women with dinkles is not hetrosexual then your claim that Barak Obama is a black man is not true.:)
Bilbo say the word dinkles and tell me you aren't a flaming homo.
He's black, if you saw him you would think he's black. He's a lot easier to confuse for a black guy then he is a white guy. He actually talks at length in his book about not being a flaming homo.
But no you can't just put an asterisk there, interracial couples piss people off waaaayy more then black people do now. Look up how crazy people got when Terrell Owens and I think Nicolette Sheridan did a Monday Night Football skit.
So if anything it's more impressive. But hell Tiger Woods is half asian it doesn't stop him from being categorized as black. How many people do you know who first think of Tiger as being Asian?
We elect one and now you say, no I want you to elect a real one.
I've always considered Tiger Woods to be Asian/Native American, he has less than 25% African ancestory in him. He's not a black man, he's a true mixed race. I consider him Dutch and Chinese as much as I consider him black.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
But I will admit, I was suprised when Barak got elected. I do think it's a great thing for progress and hopefully the American economy and foreign relations as well.
Rather sadly (for the UK) I think America are probably more open minded than us as I cannot imagine a black Prime Minister at all. I can't even think of a black or Asian person who has ever reached a high political office in the UK. In fact the most important black person in the UK is probably Trisha :-\
Our political system is firmly entrenched in hereditry peers, public schools and white middle/upper class men.
Firstly, Obama is not black.
He is half white and half black, but to white people that seems to make him black. To Africans, that does not make him a black man.
Still, electing him is a reasonable first step for America to try and come to terms with it's horrific history of race relations..... but, guys, please don't think that this makes everything OK now and start fooling yourselves into thinking that the US does not remain racially divided and that there is great deal of work to do (good start though)
Incidentally, amat usually puts up good posts but I'm going to challenge him on the mixed race thing. When I lived in America I noticed that the different racial groups hardly mixed with each other at all ..... Asians stayed with Asians, blacks with blacks, whites with whites. Equally, and inter-racial dating or marriage was very unusual and was seriously looked down upon.
If that is still the case, then there is a cultural apertheid still going on in that country which is absolutely nothing to be proud of.
It's a bit naive to be saying 'God bless America' just yet ....... and us in the rest of the western world need not get on our high horses either as closet racism is just better hidden behind a wall of PC behaviour and legislation.
Anyway ........ rant over......... and congratulations to America for appearing to vote in a Statesman, not a party politician (who cares what colour he is)
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Originally Posted by amat
There was a black albino on big brother. That was confusing.:confused:
I've got a questions for you and I'm not trying to be antagonistic. If Obama said all the same things that he said in the presidential campaign and acted exactly the same, but he looked like Robert Mugabi would he still have won the election :-\
He would in Zimbabwe ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
imo NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
unless.....see what X wrote.;)
...... he may have won a Ugandan election if he looked like John "The Beast" Mugabi rather than Robert?
Nobheads ;D
Mugabi was an example of a proper black geezer ;)
The answer to my questions is almost certainly "NO" so how much as really changed :-\