thats a fuckking mega fight, i think mosley stops him late and shocks the world and hands mayweather his 1st loss.
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thats a fuckking mega fight, i think mosley stops him late and shocks the world and hands mayweather his 1st loss.
If Mayweather comes back he will wait to see who wins the Pacquioa-Hatton fight first.
If a fight ever happens i take Floyd by decision.It will be a hard fight but Mosley has always struggled with fighters with a good jab and Floyd has just that,Mosley will bring the punch power but Floyd counters that by having one of the best defence's in the game you hardly ever see him take a full blooded shot.I think Floyd works mostly behind his jab not over commiting himself and takes the UD.
It's not big enough! Never gonna happen... Way too much risk for Mayweather Jr. forget about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrZelenoff
Ditto. I'd root for SSM, but chances are good Mayweather would pull this one out. I'd pay to see it, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
Mayweather's jab is just too good, his defense, just too impenetrable. He gets the UD. Unfortunately, he doesn't seem into boxing right now :mad:
I really don't see PBF coming back. I think Pac is a mismatch so Mosley would be the only reason to unretire. But I really don't think PBF is coming back to boxing. But if he did I think he wins a competitive decision against Mosley. But sorry boxing fans, I think PBF is really retired. Let it go. Him and Calzaghe may be the rarities in boxing. A boxer who retires himself.
Mayweather has never fought anyone as good as Shane Mosley b4 and he has had a couple of close calls with Castillo and Oscar
I wouldnt be surprised if Mosley beat him . Remember not many thought Shane would beat Tony, let alone smash him to bits and knock him out.
Sadly i think this fight wont happen though i would pay to watch that fight in HD.
All the respect in the world to Mosley but to me he would get his ass handed to him by Floyd. I hope this fight does happen though it would interest me.
man I would love to see been wanting it for years....50/50 with the tide rolling for mosley...but floyd wont take it if he does he will wait until mosley looks completely old and on his death bed.
Ironically enough floyd would probably convince himself that a rematch with hatton is better for his legacy, if hatton manages to beat pacman.
DelaHoya 2
Cotto
Pacquioa
Hatton 2
Mosley..........anyone else see the pattern ??? Im starting to believe Mayweather really is going to stay gone.If this fight did come off,I think Mosley beats him.All things considered.
I think Floyd Mayweather is completely overrated from 140 pounds up. I think if the fight were to happen within the next 6 months Mosley would win. However, I dont think we will be seeing Floyd fight again. And if he does it wont be against another genuine 147 fighter.
Did you see what Moseley did to Marg, you think Mayweather wants a beating fighting a real welter. No chance.
mosley wins in a fight every day of the week
sadly a mayweather return will result in the 2 trading insults inside the ring for 12rounds and mayweather taking a decision!!
Mayweather does not equal Margarito. Not that Mosley couldn't beat him, but that fight would look completely different. Margarito's piss poor defense and lack of speed got him eviscerated. That wouldn't happen against Floyd. Mayweather is faster than Mosley and has a better defense. Now Floyd wouldn't be able to knock out Mosley, but considering Floyd has never sniffed canvas from a legit knockdown Mosley would have to win a hard-fought, 12 round decision. I see Mayweather taxing Shane's legs by utilizing the whole ring, potshotting him the whole way en route to a SD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Cause now Tony had regular gloves, no I gotta give it to Shane. But to compare Floyd and Tony is like to compare light and dark: nothing in commonQuote:
Originally Posted by GAME
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky BalboaCause now Tony had regular gloves, no I gotta give it to Shane. But to compare Floyd and Tony is like to compare light and dark: nothing in commonQuote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You can compare Margarito to Castillo though and alot of people think Castillo beat Floyd. The Mexican outlanded Floyd by alot . Mosley is by far the best person hes been up against. Zab Judahs speed gave him problems early . Mosley though can maintain the speed but he has power and heart too.
There's a lot of leaps and skips in there. I thought Castillo beat Floyd the first time, but he certainly proved Castillo couldn't do it again. Zab gave Floyd problems early, but what happened around round 3-4? He adjusted. Zab's speed became a non-issue. You also have to look at it from the other side. Mosley has a tendency to become discouraged when he knows he's losing. You saw it in the 2nd Forrest fight and in both losses to Wright. Shane's body language changed midway through the fight and he didn't fight the same. Winky lit a fire under him when he let that fortress of a guard down and Shane commenced to smacking him with a few shots to which Winky just smiled at him and covered back up. After that Shane knew he had no chance. What happens when Mayweather shuts it down the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky BalboaCause now Tony had regular gloves, no I gotta give it to Shane. But to compare Floyd and Tony is like to compare light and dark: nothing in commonQuote:
Originally Posted by GAME
You can compare Margarito to Castillo though and alot of people think Castillo beat Floyd. The Mexican outlanded Floyd by alot . Mosley is by far the best person hes been up against. Zab Judahs speed gave him problems early . Mosley though can maintain the speed but he has power and heart too.
I think this fight would be the chance for PBF to become a legend. If he were to show up and fight it would be legendary. Sadly, I would expect him to talk a lot and fight the last ten seconds of the last round.
PBF could outrun Shane for a decision, landing little and avoiding all exchanges.
If they actually fought and tried to hurt one another (which Shane always does) Shane beats PBF in a very close and competitive fight which both guys show their metal and becomes a classic. PBF finally earns the respect of the fans and proves he deserves to be an all time great.
I totally agree with you, he beat some very good fighters getting up to 140, imagine if he fought Hatton at 140 or Tszyu. Then Cotto, Pot Paws and Mosley at Welter, could have been some great fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I will give him props for the DLH fight at 154 but the cash worth the risk to him.
Beating a totally shot Mitchell, a war torn Gatti, Zab Judah, Baldomir etc. It's wasted talent if you ask me and he totally overrated himself talking about true greats like SRL and comparing himself to them.
I think people have jumped on the Mosley bandwagon ridiculously because of his fight against Margarito. Yes, he looked amazing against Margarito & IMO he is an ATG, but it can't be forgotten that on more than one occasion he's looked weaker against top class boxers, particularly guys who are good defensively & good thinkers in the ring, eg ODLH 2nd fight, Forrest, Wright. I mean it was only last September he was outboxed for most rounds by Mayorga, so I don't buy this Mosley batters PBF to a pulp stuff, I think Mayweather would do what everyone doesn't want him to and box his way to victory. Let's face it, what would the point be of him engaging in a war with a guy with a chin as good as Mosley's. He's out to win for himself, not to entertain us.
You might want to check that fight again..shane wobbled winky and wink had to grab him to keep from going down...i remember the exchange from merchant and jones jr who were calling the fight that night...Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceThere's a lot of leaps and skips in there. I thought Castillo beat Floyd the first time, but he certainly proved Castillo couldn't do it again. Zab gave Floyd problems early, but what happened around round 3-4? He adjusted. Zab's speed became a non-issue. You also have to look at it from the other side. Mosley has a tendency to become discouraged when he knows he's losing. You saw it in the 2nd Forrest fight and in both losses to Wright. Shane's body language changed midway through the fight and he didn't fight the same. Winky lit a fire under him when he let that fortress of a guard down and Shane commenced to smacking him with a few shots to which Winky just smiled at him and covered back up. After that Shane knew he had no chance. What happens when Mayweather shuts it down the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
You can compare Margarito to Castillo though and alot of people think Castillo beat Floyd. The Mexican outlanded Floyd by alot . Mosley is by far the best person hes been up against. Zab Judahs speed gave him problems early . Mosley though can maintain the speed but he has power and heart too.
after winky dropped his guard:
JONES JR: Aww he hurt Wink!
MERCHANT: What on earth was Wright doing? I think he was intent on showing mosley that he couldn't hurt him...
JONES JR: Yeah well he didn't show him the truth because he did hurt him, hurt him bad too.
MERCHANT: Yeah and you know something Roy he was smart because he went to the body first
JONES JR: yeah that was very smart...
Another thing is while many people love to say things like
Well floyd is no margarito, or look how vernon and winky did this and that to shane....But they never seem to be objective and say
Well shane is no judah, gatti, or baldomir. And Floyd's isnt as big as winky or long as Vernon. in fact Shane's arms are longer than floyd's and he's much stronger.
I recall Wink smiling at him. I recall him covering back up after that and then his corner yelling at him. I don't remember Mosley doing anything else significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou might want to check that fight again..shane wobbled winky and wink had to grab him to keep from going down...i remember the exchange from merchant and jones jr who were calling the fight that night...Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceThere's a lot of leaps and skips in there. I thought Castillo beat Floyd the first time, but he certainly proved Castillo couldn't do it again. Zab gave Floyd problems early, but what happened around round 3-4? He adjusted. Zab's speed became a non-issue. You also have to look at it from the other side. Mosley has a tendency to become discouraged when he knows he's losing. You saw it in the 2nd Forrest fight and in both losses to Wright. Shane's body language changed midway through the fight and he didn't fight the same. Winky lit a fire under him when he let that fortress of a guard down and Shane commenced to smacking him with a few shots to which Winky just smiled at him and covered back up. After that Shane knew he had no chance. What happens when Mayweather shuts it down the same way?Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
after winky dropped his guard:
JONES JR: Aww he hurt Wink!
MERCHANT: What on earth was Wright doing? I think he was intent on showing mosley that he couldn't hurt him...
JONES JR: Yeah well he didn't show him the truth because he did hurt him, hurt him bad too.
MERCHANT: Yeah and you know something Roy he was smart because he went to the body first
JONES JR: yeah that was very smart...
Another thing is while many people love to say things like
Well floyd is no margarito, or look how vernon and winky did this and that to shane....But they never seem to be objective and say
Well shane is no judah, gatti, or baldomir. And Floyd's isnt as big as winky or long as Vernon. in fact Shane's arms are longer than floyd's and he's much stronger.
You're right. Shane is no Judah, Gatti or Baldomir. I wasn't the one comparing. It was whomever saying Floyd is no Margarito. I really was just countering an argument. Floyd would have to work a lot harder than he did versus Judah because Mosley has a lot more heart, a lot more punch than Baldomir (and probably just as much chin) and he can box a helluva lot better than Gatti. To think that Floyd's victories over those 3 means anything against Mosley would be a mistake.
I understand...i should have clarified my point...the latter part was directed at those that actually do try to use pbf victories over those guys as arguments as to him beating shane.Quote:
Originally Posted by KillfaceI recall Wink smiling at him. I recall him covering back up after that and then his corner yelling at him. I don't remember Mosley doing anything else significant.Quote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweatherYou might want to check that fight again..shane wobbled winky and wink had to grab him to keep from going down...i remember the exchange from merchant and jones jr who were calling the fight that night...Quote:
Originally Posted by Killface
after winky dropped his guard:
JONES JR: Aww he hurt Wink!
MERCHANT: What on earth was Wright doing? I think he was intent on showing mosley that he couldn't hurt him...
JONES JR: Yeah well he didn't show him the truth because he did hurt him, hurt him bad too.
MERCHANT: Yeah and you know something Roy he was smart because he went to the body first
JONES JR: yeah that was very smart...
Another thing is while many people love to say things like
Well floyd is no margarito, or look how vernon and winky did this and that to shane....But they never seem to be objective and say
Well shane is no judah, gatti, or baldomir. And Floyd's isnt as big as winky or long as Vernon. in fact Shane's arms are longer than floyd's and he's much stronger.
You're right. Shane is no Judah, Gatti or Baldomir. I wasn't the one comparing. It was whomever saying Floyd is no Margarito. I really was just countering an argument. Floyd would have to work a lot harder than he did versus Judah because Mosley has a lot more heart, a lot more punch than Baldomir (and probably just as much chin) and he can box a helluva lot better than Gatti. To think that Floyd's victories over those 3 means anything against Mosley would be a mistake.
And the second winky fight the score was 115-113 go have gone either way....you should check it out again.
How can you say that? Floyd fought a genuine Junior Middle in Oscar and beat him and that was before he was shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If this fight will happen: I will go insane. I will be... well... words wouldn't be able to describe my excitement. This would be the fight I most anticipate ever. EVER. I'd want PBF to win. What would be the best is if it happened to be a war (no, not standind toe-to-toe exchanging). If Floyd was hurt and had to fight for his life. To prove his heart to the fans. That would be incredible. Ya... I hope this happens.
Perhaps Oscar was shot, Roach figured it out from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHow can you say that? Floyd fought a genuine Junior Middle in Oscar and beat him and that was before he was shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I remember him saying he saw it for definite in the Forbes fight. He said he saw signs that ODLH was a bit shot in the PBF fight, but wasn't sure whether that was because of Oscar himself or Floyd. That's why he wanted the fight at 147 to make sure. I'm sure I remember reading that somewhere, I'll hunt around for a linkQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterPerhaps Oscar was shot, Roach figured it out from that fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuHow can you say that? Floyd fought a genuine Junior Middle in Oscar and beat him and that was before he was shot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Would be great fight PBF wins by close SD but Floyd is going to stay retired.
I dont know man,I think Mosley was the stronger fighter in the DLH rematch and it showed in the late rounds,Oscar was more focused and sharp early but Shane was moving DeLaHoya.This is one fight where Lampley must have basically had his script typed up prior to the match,He went over board smoozing alllll over Oscar that night.In with Wright you could see it,Mosley had little effect on a very sturdy natural 154 defensive wiz,try as he might.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Well, it's not like there aren't 'medicinal' reasons for that ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'NawlinsI dont know man,I think Mosley was the stronger fighter in the DLH rematch and it showed in the late rounds,Oscar was more focused and sharp early but Shane was moving DeLaHoya.This is one fight where Lampley must have basically had his script typed up prior to the match,He went over board smoozing alllll over Oscar that night.In with Wright you could see it,Mosley had little effect on a very sturdy natural 154 defensive wiz,try as he might.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin