-
Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Who is to America like Hatton is for the UK?
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I voted Shane because everyone likes him, or at least respects him. All races and ages want Shane Mosley to win because he is a boxer/puncher who is exciting and will fight anyone.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Thats quite hard to answer, America doesnt really love or cherrish its sportsmen like the Britts do theirs but I think the closest would have to be Pavlik, he has a local following and has the white boy that can fight bit down too;D
Saying about Britts loving their sportsmen, thats not always true, they have to earn it otherwise they are despised, like Khan is.
Eubank used to be until he was humbled in his last few fights and then people got behind him.
I know I used to hate Calzaghe and alot of people here think im a fan but he has earned that respect out of me, at first I couldnt see the big deal, I remember when Eubank was gonna fight him and id watched his televised fights leading up to that, he fought some south American bloke and slapped him around with arm punches till the ref jumped in and I thought "big deal, Chris will eat him up" Then fuuck me if he doesnt drop Eubank in the first and just works and works and works Chris over!!
The Kessler fight really made me admire him, for all is techinal defficiencies he fights like a man who has to win and thats whats got him where he is, no complacency, working hard every round of every fight.
Hatton gets respect because he is so fan friendly and accessable, he also used to throw some nice combinations that caught the eye, like Tysons old right hook, jump to the left then right uppercut, I used to dislike him as well and wrote him off in the Tszyu fight but anyone who can work Tszyu over like that and take his power has a bit of something, look what Tszyu had just done to mitchell!!
Haye is yet to really earn any sort of following at the moment he bugs me, gives it all the chat but has already been shown up by an old Thompson, he may win me over in a heavy title fight but I have a feeling he wont;D
If Froch was to beat Kessler then he may win me over also but again, I dont see it happening.
I used to hate Hamed with a passion but as soon as he went to America, I actually found it funny that he still acted the wanker, fought like a diick and still knocked out a few good names, like he could just fight how he wanted and find some power, until he met Barrera that is;D
No shame in that though really, as Hamed was shown to be poorly prepared but he never took the rematch so must have robbed him of his confidence but I think if hed have actually boxed instead of believing his power would get him through I think he could have done Barrera, Marco has said that Hamed was stronger than Pac and when you see his legs its not hard to believe but his stupidity and arrogance with his power made him so easy to hit and he was always off balance and made to look stupid all the time but thats why I found it funny, he could do that and get away with it for a while:p
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
A rather underwhelming response here.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Hopkins shows what hard work will do for you even if you should be in a rocking chair watching fights rather than being in fights.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
No clear-cut answer. Nobody possesses the same combination of charisma, likeability, and skill like Hatton. There may be some truth to the song: "There's only one Ricky Hatton..."
Pavlik would have been without the Hopkins loss and may still be providing he comes back to string together a few wins. Pwill isn't there yet. Dawson may be the truth, but isn't quite there. PBF is disliked by most people. Arreola is far from there and to be honest, no matter how talented or likeable he is, I'm not convinced Americans are ready for a Mexican American to be the US-version of Ricky Hatton. I am, of course, but the average American may not be. :mad: I'd love to be proved wrong. Although not on the list, Jermain Taylor, assuming he can beat the competition, could be the next big American star because he already has some notoriety.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I was going back and forth between Hopkins and Mosley. Because of Mosley's steroid controversy I'll give the edge to Bernard.
Plus, Bernard is proving that age is just a number. Yes, Shane is old too but Hopkins is WAY older.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Hopkins is a self-exposed racist ex criminal that thinks it's fine to cheat and play-act to win.
I think Mosley is a genuine nice guy (shame about the steroids).
Forrest is a nice guy too. And Pavlik.
Oscar is Americas equivalent of Hatton though.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Fenster
Hopkins is a self-exposed racist ex criminal that thinks it's fine to cheat and play-act to win.
I think Mosley is a genuine nice guy (shame about the steroids).
Forrest is a nice guy too. And Pavlik.
Oscar is Americas equivalent of Hatton though.
I intentionally left him out, because I consider him a promoter first.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
ross
Thats quite hard to answer, America doesnt really love or cherrish its sportsmen like the Britts do theirs but I think the closest would have to be Pavlik, he has a local following and has the white boy that can fight bit down too;D
Saying about Britts loving their sportsmen, thats not always true, they have to earn it otherwise they are despised, like Khan is.
Eubank used to be until he was humbled in his last few fights and then people got behind him.
I know I used to hate Calzaghe and alot of people here think im a fan but he has earned that respect out of me, at first I couldnt see the big deal, I remember when Eubank was gonna fight him and id watched his televised fights leading up to that, he fought some south American bloke and slapped him around with arm punches till the ref jumped in and I thought "big deal, Chris will eat him up" Then fuuck me if he doesnt drop Eubank in the first and just works and works and works Chris over!!
The Kessler fight really made me admire him, for all is techinal defficiencies he fights like a man who has to win and thats whats got him where he is, no complacency, working hard every round of every fight.
Hatton gets respect because he is so fan friendly and accessable, he also used to throw some nice combinations that caught the eye, like Tysons old right hook, jump to the left then right uppercut, I used to dislike him as well and wrote him off in the Tszyu fight but anyone who can work Tszyu over like that and take his power has a bit of something, look what Tszyu had just done to mitchell!!
Haye is yet to really earn any sort of following at the moment he bugs me, gives it all the chat but has already been shown up by an old Thompson, he may win me over in a heavy title fight but I have a feeling he wont;D
If Froch was to beat Kessler then he may win me over also but again, I dont see it happening.
I used to hate Hamed with a passion but as soon as he went to America, I actually found it funny that he still acted the wanker, fought like a diick and still knocked out a few good names, like he could just fight how he wanted and find some power, until he met Barrera that is;D
No shame in that though really, as Hamed was shown to be poorly prepared but he never took the rematch so must have robbed him of his confidence but I think if hed have actually boxed instead of believing his power would get him through I think he could have done Barrera, Marco has said that Hamed was stronger than Pac and when you see his legs its not hard to believe but his stupidity and arrogance with his power made him so easy to hit and he was always off balance and made to look stupid all the time but thats why I found it funny, he could do that and get away with it for a while:p
Who said anythign about UK fighters? Perhaps another blog?
This is a blog-jack of all blog-jacks
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
boozeboxer
I voted Shane because everyone likes him, or at least respects him. All races and ages want Shane Mosley to win because he is a boxer/puncher who is exciting and will fight anyone.
I totally agree and I want to mention he also proved he has a lot of class.
I think (and I hope) the next one will be Bad Chad.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Yes it would be Mosley minus the steroids :-\
Pavlik was on verge of being it and hopefully he can still get there - seems like an all round nice guy and exciting fighter with a hell of a punch.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Imposable to say,America isnt a unified country
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Quote:
Originally Posted by
Kel
Mosley I HOPE! He is a happy, go lucky fella who always has a smile on his face, he is humble and respectful and from that list he is the obvious choice.
People who think Hopkins best represents their country have a low opinion of the US. He is a gobby, cocky loud-mouth Kunt!
Tell us how ya really feel Kel ;D....What exactly is 'Gobby' ?
Im split on Hopkins and Mosley.Mosley is an all around class act inside and outside of the ring.I'll leave the steroids maybes and maybe not for those that want to flaunt it.A very reserved guy though but clearly not all about himself compared to Hopkins.
Hopkins ,while fully content to stroke his own ego,also shows that a once street tough can come from the lowest of depths and stacked odds,commiting a crime...doing his time and never repeating his errors.Maintaining tip top form of mind and body in chossen profession,earning his millions at it and defying the odds makers and doubters when many had written him off....insert rolling eyes anywhere lol....but clearly yeah,quite a cocky dude.Trashing the flag of Puerto Rico was crappy also.
Sorry, it's a British word for people who back-chat or talk in a negative way towards someone else.
'Gob' is another word for mouth (at least it was up North when I lived in Bradford)
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Sorry everyone, the forum had problems when I tried to post I thought it was my wireless internet plaing up and kept trying to submit countless times. I had no idea all would post at the same time.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Sorry everyone, thought my wireless was playing up but it posted everytime
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Sorry everyone, thought my wireless was playing up but it posted everytime
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
At the moment It's got to be Mosley
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Chad Dawson man, why isnt he on there?
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
No Contest
Chad Dawson man, why isnt he on there?
Because I'm an idiot.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
sugars the man for me
For years i would of said oscar but now mosley has well and truly taken his place as the main men.
If your talking p4p then of course its bhop. But in regards to a great great fighter who does your country proud inside AND outside the ring its mosley all the way.
american or non american when he is gone from the sport we`ll all be worser off without him!!
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
That everyman appeal that Hatton has, is more akin to the kind of appeal Pavlik has IMO.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Quote:
Originally Posted by
miles
That everyman appeal that Hatton has, is more akin to the kind of appeal Pavlik has IMO.
true
this is where the question gets misenterpreted
when i saw hopkins was the winner i was mistified
To be americas hatton you not only have to be a great fighter but a decent guy. Hopkins is more britains answer to junior witter!!
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Sugar is the best representive of them all.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I think Kelly Pavlik for the sheer level of support he is able to generate, even if he isn't the best boxing representative, I think he's the guy who if he fought abroad would have fans flyin round the world to see him
Ok I just read the sub-headline sayin who was America's Hatton hence my vote for Pavlik. The man in terms of ability is between B-Hop & Shane, I'd just side with Hopkins
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
representitive... as in skill? fan support? grit determination?
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I believe that would be SSM.
In a few yrs. it can easily be Pavlik or Berto.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Pavlik, sticking it out in Youngstown Ohio and all, just bein' one of the boys! That great wide-eyed, no street smart and money grabbing attributes.
Innocent, but deadly effective atop the ring.
Forget the recent loss from Hopkins, it was a learning experience for him. He was humbled, "BUT" he accepted it like a real man!
Maybe a tad young for now, but for later, has tons of potential for the honor!
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I voted Mosley, BUT after reading the question in your thread I would say Pavlik is the best comparison to Hatton.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
I voted Shane Mosley, with Pavlik a close second. Had Pavlik not lost his fight to Hopkins and Shane not dominated Margarito the way he did, it would've just as well been reversed. But Mosley has grabbed the spotlight again after his stunning devastation of Margarito. Pavlik is "Heartland America's sweetheart", but he needs to get back to his winning ways in a convincing fashion.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
paulie malignaggi. after all he was to quick and slick for hatton like alot of people said on here, naming no names.
-
Re: Which current fighter is the best representitive for America
Shane Mosely for the class he always shows and that nice guys don't always finish last and then there's Hopkins and I don't really care for his out of ring behavior but he is amazing. Kelly Pavlik is the rags to riches type of hard worker and Paul Williams is under construction. Honorable Mention to Juan Diaz. For him it's just beginning unless Marquez has other plans.