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who was the most ferocious?
obviously every fighter has a level of ferocity, but who was the baddest? for me its a toss up between 3: duran, hagler or tyson. imo those 3 in their primes were the most vicious and relentless men to ever step foot in the ring. all 3 seemed to enjoy crushing their opponents (especially duran). it would be good to hear your thoughts on the subject. :)
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Duran, Hagler and Tyson are very good picks, I'd add Chavez, Dempsey, Foreman and Pryor into the mix.
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Hearns Duran, Tyson,
I think hearns had the meanest look though. Its that " im fina fukk you up look".
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Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watch. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
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IMO the guy who sticks out is Aaron Pryor. I think he has a legit claim to be THE most ferocious fighter of all time and moreso then any of the 3 listed he never lost that fire at any point in his career. I remember he got knocked down once I forget by who and he bounced right back up and had the other fighter covering up as Pryor charged back then the ref got in there and issued the count. Was awesome.
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"The Dark Destroyer" Nigel Benn
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Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
I loved that about him, he would land one of those huge, short, sharp right hands and turn as his opponent hit the deck and slowly wander back to his corner;DIt's classy I think.
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jack dempsey and nigel benn actually came to mind as i was writing the thread. those 2 definately had that non stop action thing and lots of it! see what you mean about joe louis, a bit mysterious was joe, and that must have been unnerving to some.
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In terms of sheer terror then it is Liston in the early 60's, Foreman in the early 70's ( remember people actually feared for Ali's life before the Rumble),i have never seen a fighter with such intensity as Duran when he fought Leonard the first time, he was dead set scary and that was part of his psyche. I think Leonard was at times overawed by Duran as much as anything. Sadly this was the last time we really saw the great Roberto Duran at his peak.
Hagler was a menacing figure and Tyson from 1986-1990 was probably the meanest, nastiest, most ferocious fighter ever seen.
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duran bein my favourite ever fighter, was coz of his ferociousness in the ring. unbefuckinleivable. tyson was just as bad. and on the british contingent nigel benn is and will be the most ferocious fighter weve ever seen and for years to come will be. GOOD THREAD
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The wrecking machine in My Avatar:puncher:.Dude was a monster for his weight ;D
Terry Norris had a mean streak
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Any coverage I ever seen of Jack Dempsey was pretty scary...The guy changed his expression little and was hitting with bad intentions every time
Vs Willard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VawHgrLvbD4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkuGHimuG9s Firpo footage
The guy was vicious
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i miss nigel benn, itll be a long time till we see another british fighter like him. i was in my early teens when i used to watch his fights live on tv, id tape them and spend all day sunday watching them over and over (same with naz). first time i ever saw that tape of dempsey beating willard i was about 8 years old and i thought it was incredible, and to this day its still the first fight that comes to mind when i hear the word "beatdown".
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Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
Joe Louis was told not to smile and gloat over the opponent as it would remind the white folk of Jack Johnson.
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gotta go with Tyson. A ferocious stalker to his opponents
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Tommy Hearns genuinely sacred me. I felt sorry for Andries when he walked into the ring, same with Roldan.
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There have been some truly ferocious fighters over the years. They are a genre all of their own (I wouldn't put Hagler in there, though. Hagler is an all time great but he could box and think in the ring and would alter his style accordingly. He was ferocious against Hearns but that was because he chose to be rather than because it was his prime nature)
I agree with people like Dempsey, Tyson, Duran, Benn and people like that .... Louis was a machine rather than a ferocious fighter. 'Ferocious' - for me anyway - is defined by a fighter who appears to enjoy hurting his opponent. To the layman amongst us ..... Clubber Lan is ferocous, Apollo Creed, Rocky Balboa, Ivan Drago and Tommy Gunn are not, although they may well be better fighters ;D
Honourable mention must go to Stanley Ketchell, the Michigan Assassin who bit, clawed and hammered his opponents into the canvas
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Top 3 In this order!
Foreman
Liston
Tyson
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holmcall
Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
Joe Louis was told not to smile and gloat over the opponent as it would remind the white folk of Jack Johnson.
i honestly didnt know that about louis.
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holmcall
Louis was scary becuase he was so deadpanned. Just went out there and slaughtered the opposition and then calmly walked back to his corner. Very scary to watc. Almost like he was a killer robot. LaMotta was ferocious.
Joe Louis was told not to smile and gloat over the opponent as it would remind the white folk of Jack Johnson.
i honestly didnt know that about louis.
Yes indeed -he was also told never to have his photo taken with a white woman, as if it appeared in any newspaper it would remind people of Johnson.
Jack's impact was not just on sport and it was still reverberating in 1930's America.
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its a shame that a true legend like joe louis wasnt treated better when he was with us. great fighter and a great man.
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Great call 3rdMan...
I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
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Great call 3rdMan...
I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!
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Great call 3rdMan...
I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!
I agree Briscoe was a bad man.. Stopped only once in his career fought the best fighters around.
http://www.tedspoon.co.uk/briscoe.jpg
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CutMeMick
Great call 3rdMan...
I'd go with Liston, Briscoe, Tyson & Duran.
Benny Briscoe! Of course, a mean man in the ring, anyone who fought Briscoe was in for a tough night and if you beat him you had to be really, really good. In any other era he would have been regarded as a truly great Middleweight champion but he ran into Monzon, Valdez and Hagler!
I agree Briscoe was a bad man.. Stopped only once in his career fought the best fighters around.
I agree, and this saved me from having to really think it over myself :P. Note that all four of these men could well have been psychopaths, and one of them, Tyson, is clearly one.
Jack Johnson came to mind immediately for me, as the man took absolute delight in hurting those foolish enough to get in the ring with him, but most of that I believe was a result of the era he lived in - justifiably so. Liston was carved of the same stone and certainly belongs on this list - he absolutely enjoyed beating a man down. Duran was one of the meanest men to ever strap on the gloves and was born with the guns to compliment that mean streak. Briscoe didn't get the name "Bad" Bennie Briscoe for nothin and was one of the most feared men of his era. I believe he's on Ring's top 100 punchers of all time.
Great picks!
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Jeff Fenech ,no slouch in the ferocious department.
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I'm not sure Johnson took delight in hurting his opponents. He often carried opponents, which is not the usual activity of someone who really enjoys beating them up,...... Johnson liked to humiliate certain opponents, which is different from hurting them - and he only really did this to Burns and Jeffries. He certainly didn't try any funny stuff with Joe Jeanette for example.
As he could seemingly pick and choose which people to humiliate, and because he carried his opponents, I would not classify his as 'ferocious'. He could be, he was a great grreat fighter, but he was too canny to be hell bent on destriction while in the ring.
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It doesnt seem that way watching his fights now,but Id put Ali in to the mix,the way he'd just decide he was bored with you,and end your night,because there is a ferociousness that allows you to toy with someone like that. Because you know he could have ended it whenever he pleased.
Ann Wolfe definitely has to be in the mix as well,come to think of it so does Valerie Mahfood,on the womans side of it,I dont think either of them have ever understood the word reverse.
Manfreddy has to be in there as well,you allways knew were Angel was going to be,right in front of you throwing punches,Mancini was like that too.
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Well i dont know if Evander Holyfeild would be called ferocious but i tell you what he could be scary at times because man with no fear is a scary thing i mean never seen Holyfeild worried in the ring always the same look on his face even if you kicking the crap out of him just jumps right back in your face alot of then time coming back to win.
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Henry Armstrong - From the clips I seen of him and his knock out record he looked pretty ferocious. Good pressure fighter
Manny Pacquiao- He is always looking for the knock out from start to finish.
George Foreman of the 70s
Mike Tyson - He will always be a highlight film
Rick Hatton - In your face all 12 rounds.
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Duran didnt look the ferocious against Hearns did he? Tyson was only ferocious against people who didnt fight back. Louis was ferocious at fighting bums and ducking black opponents. Dempsey was the same. Ducking black fighters and fighting stiffs.
To be trually ferocious you have to fight everybody, white black green or blue, Ferocious means you come strong at every opponent not just ones who arent fighting back. Kelly Pavlik is a ferocious fighter, George Foreman just kept coming and coming trying to destroy you no matter who you were. That is ferocious
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Duran didnt look the ferocious against Hearns did he? Tyson was only ferocious against people who didnt fight back. Louis was ferocious at fighting bums and ducking black opponents. Dempsey was the same. Ducking black fighters and fighting stiffs.
To be trually ferocious you have to fight everybody, white black green or blue, Ferocious means you come strong at every opponent not just ones who arent fighting back. Kelly Pavlik is a ferocious fighter, George Foreman just kept coming and coming trying to destroy you no matter who you were. That is ferocious
Well George you must have forgot about Duran at Lightweight that was the definition of ferocious. And Kelly Pavlik Ferocious? He did not look ferocious against BHop now did he? And Foremans 1st career was ferocious yes. The 2nd was a patient boxer that that waited for the opponent to make a mistake then try and take them out. Tyson never stopped and either you were gonna knock him out or he would have tried all night trying to knock you out hence why all his losses except 2nd Holyfield was knockouts.
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