I had an arguement at the boxing club the other day with a lad who thought calzaghe had faster hands than roy jones, in their prime. I would say jones just wanted other peoples views.
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I had an arguement at the boxing club the other day with a lad who thought calzaghe had faster hands than roy jones, in their prime. I would say jones just wanted other peoples views.
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Prime Jones has much faster hands than Calzaghe, if he didnt he couldnt hav fought the way he did. Calzaghe has fast hands, but not on the level of RJJ, I'm guessin the guy must not have seen any of Jones prior to the Calzaghe fight. His handspeed was just too much bak in da day. Can't think of too many guys whose handspeed is comparable P4P with Jones to be honest
mosley in his early days could easily throw 20-25 punches in a matter of seconds
obviously the lighter guys are gonna have faster hands than the middle, heavy fighters - but if your talking all round in general id still have to say mosley has the fastest ive seen
RJJ - He was the most physically gifted athlete to ever box......
The lighter you go, the faster they get.
Roy had way faster hands than Joe. Meldrick Taylor and Hector Camacho Sr (before he was ruined by Edwin Rosario) were both faster. Ray Leonard had unbelievably fast hands when he was coming up through the welterweight ranks after the Olympics. Hell, I remember Ricardo Lopez as having incredibly fast hands and reaction time in his prime, and Roy was about as fast.
The 1-2 that Roy dropped Reggie Johnson with was one of the fastest two-punch combinations I have ever seen. Roy was way faster than Joe, but Roy was not as fast as prime Meldrick Taylor.
The only person who I can think of as being definitely faster than Taylor was Eddie Cook. He was fighting Israel Contreras for the WBA bantamweight title and his hands were so fast I almost couldn't see them land. The guy was unbelievable.
Roy Jones has the fastest hands for sure. Do not underestimate Pretty boy Floyd either he has lightning fast hands too.
I would confidently say that Roy Jones has the fastest hands and by far. As much as I appreciate Mighty Joe, a prime Joe vs a Prime Roy = Joe that sees a flurry of white flashes popped out of nowhere.
Meldrick Taylor was fast, but p4p he wasn't as quick as RJJ. I think his combinations were more impressive than his potshotting quickness, and that there are few guys who can match his individual punch speed. SHane Mosley, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Mayweather(at 130), Andre Berto could throw a punch as fast as Meldrick Taylor. But honestly RJJ could compete with any of these guys in speed and he was 30+ pounds heavier than them in his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly D@vid Leeder
There are a few guys coming up in the amateurs and going pro that don't throw the same type of combinations but their individual punches are IMO faster than Meldrick Taylor or Guillermo Rigondeaux, Rau'Shee Warren, and the Gary Russell crew.
I think Manny also has elite level handspeed, but he loaded up so much on punches at 130-, and he is one of the easier guys to hit with elite speed that he seemed slower than he actually was.
Ali
Terrence Ali
Amir Khan
'95 RJJr. No doubt.
Mike Arnaoutis has the fastest p4p hands. They are so fast compubox has to multiply their results by 10 to match the true output. So 5 punches landed in reality is actually 50.
Roy Jones Jr in his prime is a close second followed by Ray Leonard and Floyd Mayweather Jr.
There is a video clip of Jones in training throwing about 25 hard shots in 5 seconds on a floor to ceiling bag. If I can find it I'll post it. It's amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
To get back to the point of the thread, Jones' handspeed is p4p the fastest I've ever seen so obviously far faster than Calzaghe.
And that was an old Roy Jones tooQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThere is a video clip of Jones in training throwing about 25 hard shots in 5 seconds on a floor to ceiling bag. If I can find it I'll post it. It's amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
To get back to the point of the thread, Jones' handspeed is p4p the fastest I've ever seen so obviously far faster than Calzaghe.
YouTube - Roy Jones Jr. Training
Does the combo at the 6:10 mark
Eddie Cook did have fast hands. But the fastest hands i ever seen belong to Ed Hopson. Nobody could match his hand speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly D@vid Leeder
Jones punches, Calzaghe slaps. There's no comparison there.
Yeah, I have no problem going along with this statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Very true but Jones' were all power punches which was what made his speed so unique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseEddie Cook did have fast hands. But the fastest hands i ever seen belong to Ed Hopson. Nobody could match his hand speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly D@vid Leeder
I know it was an oldish Jones. Thats why I'd love to see just how fast he could have punched around his MW and SMW days. For me he seemed (strange as it seems) to get faster when he moved up from LMW.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyAnd that was an old Roy Jones tooQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuThere is a video clip of Jones in training throwing about 25 hard shots in 5 seconds on a floor to ceiling bag. If I can find it I'll post it. It's amazing!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
To get back to the point of the thread, Jones' handspeed is p4p the fastest I've ever seen so obviously far faster than Calzaghe.
YouTube - Roy Jones Jr. Training
Does the combo at the 6:10 mark
Thats it I'm off to watch his career box set again!
Roy p4p was the fastest. A lot of people may disagree but I think Yurioukis Gamboa is the fastest handed fighter of the 2000's.
terry norris was like that too. power and speedQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuVery true but Jones' were all power punches which was what made his speed so unique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseEddie Cook did have fast hands. But the fastest hands i ever seen belong to Ed Hopson. Nobody could match his hand speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Formerly D@vid Leeder
Say it would be a tie between Mosley,Taylor and Jones i seen alot of there stuff they dont seem far apart even pound for pound feel there close and also Ali has to be up there as well because for a heavyweight that man was very fast not mention Leonard has to be close as well.
Bertos fast...but hes no Taylor.Watch the Meekins and McGirt breakdowns,Amazing
I dont know about ever but Johhny Tapia had some stabbing fast shots.Poppa Camacho too.
When you say fast hands are you talking about pot shoting one punch thrown or are we talking about combos that are thrown fast and such.
Chris Byrd could be fast. Sugar Ray Robinson also
I think Meldrick had the fastest hand speed.
Followed by RJJ then SRL.
Ali def. deserves a mention anyone seen training footage of him will tell you.
im glad people agree. A name not mentioned was tyson he deserves a mention, was watching him on espn classics and he was very fast for a big guy.
As soon as I read the headline of this post I thought of Meldrick Taylor. Unreal handspeed and all solid shots. The only other guy who has a reasonable argument is RJJ. Roy is something hard to define. A guy his size with those reflexes. He is a freak of nature. No exaggeration. P4P, RJJ has no competition in handspeed. Even without the p4p crap, RJJ is at worst 2nd in handspeed all time. Old school Ike Williams had amazing speed too. Mosley, Mayweather, Berto, etc. these guys are fast but not even in the same plane as Meldrick Taylor or RJJ. Roy is the guy who started the left hook lead because his freakish speed made up for technical flaws that would not work long for anyone else. Mayweather stole that left hook lead. And as one guy posted, that 1-2 RJJ landed on Reggie Johnson was unpreventable. You couldn't prepare for it in real speed. He hit Reggie with a left then right then backed up admiring his work and getting out of range of a possible counter before Reggie even started to fall. It was sick.
I think Mosley was close in his prime he could throw combos with great speed and i think Leonard not that far off as well watch some video and so while i been while since i seen a prime Molsey fight and while since i seen a prime Leonard fight as well but from what i remeber they were just as fast and they could use it to pot shot and throw great combos as well.
Floyd Patterson easily for me. You watch the rematches with Ingemar Johanssen.Floyd Patterson's punches move so quick you blink you miss 3 punches it was insane. It's just that he was so small he had to hit you with a thousand times before you'd budge. A great fantasy match-up would have been with Marciano.They just missed each other do to Rocky retiring and some have mentioned because of Floyd.
Another Cus D'Amato special that no one mentioned is Mike Tyson. I can't believe it.
Also you have to put the man on that list Sugar Ray Robinson
Mighty Mike has been mentioned and so has Sugar Ray Robinson.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Ricardo Lopez, Cassius Clay, Manny Pacquiao, Chad Dawson, Henry Armstrong, James Toney has fast hands on the inside and Paul Williams is pretty fast also.
ROY!!!!! then meldrick taylor..then shane....Shane even said in an interview that meldrick could throw 6 or more faster but 3 to 4 he believed he was faster than meldrick.
Norris is a good choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott22terry norris was like that too. power and speedQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuVery true but Jones' were all power punches which was what made his speed so unique.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
amazing that Saddoboxer or Bruce leroy haven't come on here saying Pacquiao has the fastest hands of all time
I think the difference between Mayweather's speed and a lot of these guys is he sticks his punches, especially his jab he doesn't just flick it out there, Roy Jones Jr had a tendency to do that, Mayweather actually punched through the target, and when he throw combinations it wasn't shoe shining, he throws them more like Tyson or Cotto, he digs into each punch how you are suppose to do it.
Ali's hand speed was unreal...but considering he was a heavyweight...it makes it that much more amazing.
Surprised no has mentioned a Prime Tyson. His combonations were insanely fast!
i said tyson already, hearns had quick hands 2
my top ten in no order
1. roy jones
2. sugar shane
3. sugar ray leonard
4. sugar ray robinson
5. meldrick taylor
6. Ali
7. Tyson
8. calzaghe
9. mayweather
10. ally feeney :)
All in their prime so fast it was scary
Sugar Ray Leonard
Roy clearly faster than Joe. As for p4p speed, gotta be Ali. I saw a documentary where they measured his soeed and found he was quicker than Ray Robinson. Thats saying something bearing in mind the different weights. Also dont forget Hamed. Watch his first knockdown of Belcastro. Nothing short of astonishing. He is not even that close to him when he throws the punch. Plus his final KO of Kelley. Kelley's whole body shook from that one punch. I think he is up there, and possible ahead of, Jones Jr in terms of pure athleticism (although failed to stick with it obviosuly)