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Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
As ridiculous as it sounds it seems to be a fight Shane is chasing. He has said in interviews recently that Pacquiao wouldn't be able to go 12 rounds with him so assuming Pacquiao gets by Hatton would you really want this fight to happen?
At this point I think its way too steep a step for Pacquiao, Mosley has more left at this point and still has speed power and a chin and i think Pacquiao would be way in over his head in this one.
Should this fight ever happen? In the interview danny_g put up Nazim said he'd want it, and in an interview i seen with shane it looks like he wants it too.
Do the fans want it?
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..
Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....
We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Hunter
Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..
Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....
We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....
True.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Hunter
Pac needs to get by Hatton first which is no easy task..
Shane isnt a real big guy and pac seemed to take the additional weight well (seemed to carry his power and speed) for the ODLH fight so I dont think it is outrageous to think about Pac/Shane.....
We will have a better idea after the Hatton fight.....
True.
True x 2
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.
...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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fan johnny
Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.
...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
I think this is an intriguing match up. I would favor Mosley, but you can't ever count Pacquiao out.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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CFH
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James_Teja
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fan johnny
Sure I see it happening.... Shane can go down to 145lbs. And if Pacquiao wins people will just say he likes to beat up senior citizens.
...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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CFH
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James_Teja
...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
Margarito may not have the skills of Pacquiao but he's much larger, he hits harder etc etc. He's as much of a threat, if not more so, than Pac at welter.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Shane is too big he still has speed and Manny ain't gonna hurt the guy. Total mis-match.
DLH was a fukking zombie, a real Welter won't be.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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CFH
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James_Teja
...or Shane got affected by his divorce and the BALCO controversy.
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of
incase Pac beats Mosley.
No 'in case Pac wins' where as Mosely is concerned.
No matter how hard I try I just can't see Pac living with any of the top WW's. I'm one of the few on here that thinks Hatton's power and strength will be too much for Pac, let alone a top WW.
Oscar said that Pac's punches don't hurt so what makes you think somebody with a chin likely Mosely couldn't just walk through everything he throws?
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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CFH
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James_Teja
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CFH
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
Margarito may not have the skills of Pacquiao but he's much larger, he hits harder etc etc. He's as much of a threat, if not more so, than Pac at welter.
Ofcourse Mosley would the biggest, and the fastest fighter Pac would ever encounter. But style makes fight. You'll never know what will happen.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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CFH
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James_Teja
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
Margarito may not have the skills of Pacquiao but he's much larger, he hits harder etc etc. He's as much of a threat, if not more so, than Pac at welter.
Ofcourse Mosley would the biggest, and the fastest fighter Pac would ever encounter. But style makes fight. You'll never know what will happen.
Fair enough, but why do you feel the clash of styles favors Pac?
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Conrad
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James_Teja
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CFH
:rolleyes:
Yeah, they were sure bothering him in the Margarito fight.
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of
incase Pac beats Mosley.
No 'in case Pac wins' where as Mosely is concerned.
No matter how hard I try I just can't see Pac living with any of the top WW's. I'm one of the few on here that thinks Hatton's power and strength will be too much for Pac, let alone a top WW.
Oscar said that Pac's punches don't hurt so what makes you think somebody with a chin likely Mosely couldn't just walk through everything he throws?
DLH lost his legs in the round 6 from head blows. FYI, accumulation punches are deadlier than 1 punch KO. That's the reason of the stoppage.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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Originally Posted by
Conrad
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James_Teja
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
No 'in case Pac wins' where as Mosely is concerned.
No matter how hard I try I just can't see Pac living with any of the top WW's. I'm one of the few on here that thinks Hatton's power and strength will be too much for Pac, let alone a top WW.
Oscar said that Pac's punches don't hurt so what makes you think somebody with a chin likely Mosely couldn't just walk through everything he throws?
DLH lost his legs in the round 6 from head blows. FYI, accumulation punches are deadlier than 1 punch KO. That's the reason of the stoppage.
DLH entered the ring without his legs. He was completely fukked
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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CFH
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James_Teja
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CFH
Margarito may not have the skills of Pacquiao but he's much larger, he hits harder etc etc. He's as much of a threat, if not more so, than Pac at welter.
Ofcourse Mosley would the biggest, and the fastest fighter Pac would ever encounter. But style makes fight. You'll never know what will happen.
Fair enough, but why do you feel the clash of styles favors Pac?
I would favor Mosley to beat Pac by a tad. But! I wouldn't be surprised if Pac shock the world and beats him.. simply because Shane never faced someone like Pac.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
If I was Pac I would wait it out before I fought Sugar. Plus he has 1 helluva opponent in the Hitman coming up and this will be the fight that will determine if Manny belongs in the welters. I think Shane and Cotto should fight each other 1st in the rematch. I really want to see Pacman beat Ricky then see if Money Mayweather comes out of retirement and fights him by the end of the year. Then fight the winner of Cotto vs Mosley or a rubber match with JMM. If Manny decides to fight at 147 again then that is the weight he should continue to fight at from now on. Because going up and down on weight can take its toll on any fighter. But if it does happen then I gotta go with Manny by decision because I think Manny's style will give him problems. Or it might be a No Contest because both fighters fight on the inside and lead with their heads alot.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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Conrad
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James_Teja
Margarito aint no Pacquiao. Plus they're the only excuses by pac's hater that they can think of incase Pac beats Mosley.
No 'in case Pac wins' where as Mosely is concerned.
No matter how hard I try I just can't see Pac living with any of the top WW's. I'm one of the few on here that thinks Hatton's power and strength will be too much for Pac, let alone a top WW.
Oscar said that Pac's punches don't hurt so what makes you think somebody with a chin likely Mosely couldn't just walk through everything he throws?
DLH lost his legs in the round 6 from head blows.
FYI, accumulation punches are deadlier than 1 punch KO. That's the reason of the stoppage.
Well thank you for enlightening us Einstein. That has to be the most informative thing I've ever read on this forum personally. What if the accumulation doesn't result in death though? I know it's rare, Pacquaio most certainly will end up killing most of his previous opponents once the accumulation takes its toll years down the road; but could it be argued that a one punch KO would do more damage in the short term? Whadaya think?
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
I like it when Mosley showed publicly that he eagerly chasing Pacquiao... :)
If PAC can demolish Hatton, then why not a fight with Mosley probably at a catch weight of 144-145...
But this is the list of boxers (in order of priority), I want PAC to be his farewell fight before he retires at the end of this year:
1. PBF - hopes he unretires and fights PAC if PAC defeats Hatton more convincingly than what he did to Hatton.
2. Cotto - he started mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent but I doubt he can get past Clottey this coming June.
3. Mosley - well he fervently chasing PAC.
4. Valero - let's see if he can succeed PAC as one of boxing superstars.
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69. JMM - If PAC can't have a fight with anyone of the first 68 boxers on this list then maybe he can settle for JMM. ;D
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
I really think Mosley would beat Pacquiao by a good margin,doing the bigger damage down the stretch.Mosley is comfortable facing much bigger fighters and would be very solid in frame,all around retained skills and huge fight experience,once he gets Pac backing up,which I think he would...he can call the shots.I dont think Mosley needs Pacquiao now but recognizes a huge cash cow when he sees one.One step to many for Pac I believe......who needs to stop reading the press clippings & be soley,entirely and completely focused on Hatton.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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James_Teja
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Conrad
No 'in case Pac wins' where as Mosely is concerned.
No matter how hard I try I just can't see Pac living with any of the top WW's. I'm one of the few on here that thinks Hatton's power and strength will be too much for Pac, let alone a top WW.
Oscar said that Pac's punches don't hurt so what makes you think somebody with a chin likely Mosely couldn't just walk through everything he throws?
DLH lost his legs in the round 6 from head blows.
FYI, accumulation punches are deadlier than 1 punch KO. That's the reason of the stoppage.
Well thank you for enlightening us Einstein. That has to be the most informative thing I've ever read on this forum personally. What if the accumulation doesn't result in death though? I know it's rare, Pacquaio most certainly will end up killing most of his previous opponents once the accumulation takes its toll years down the road; but could it be argued that a one punch KO would do more damage in the short term? Whadaya think?
What do Lito Sisnorio, Choi Yo Sam, Duk Koo Kim, Chris Byrd, Victor Borgus, and Oscar Diaz have in common?
Did they all recieve the one punch KO?
Well?...
If you can't answer that, name one boxer who died from a one punch KO then?...
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Pac vs Mosley would be a dream fight for me. I'm a Mosley nuthugger before I became a pacfan.
This would be very very exciting.:lickish:
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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SaddoBoxer
I like it when Mosley showed publicly that he eagerly chasing Pacquiao... :)
If PAC can demolish Hatton, then why not a fight with Mosley probably at a catch weight of 144-145...
But this is the list of boxers (in order of priority), I want PAC to be his farewell fight before he retires at the end of this year:
1. PBF - hopes he unretires and fights PAC if PAC defeats Hatton more convincingly than what he did to Hatton.
2. Cotto - he started mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent but I doubt he can get past Clottey this coming June.
3. Mosley - well he fervently chasing PAC.
4. Valero - let's see if he can succeed PAC as one of boxing superstars.
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69. JMM - If PAC can't have a fight with anyone of the first 68 boxers on this list then maybe he can settle for JMM. ;D
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Why the fuck would Shane do that? Does PBF and Cotto have to fight at a catch-weight too?
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
I like it when Mosley showed publicly that he eagerly chasing Pacquiao... :)
If PAC can demolish Hatton, then why not a fight with Mosley probably at a catch weight of 144-145...
But this is the list of boxers (in order of priority), I want PAC to be his farewell fight before he retires at the end of this year:
1. PBF - hopes he unretires and fights PAC if PAC defeats Hatton more convincingly than what he did to Hatton.
2. Cotto - he started mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent but I doubt he can get past Clottey this coming June.
3. Mosley - well he fervently chasing PAC.
4. Valero - let's see if he can succeed PAC as one of boxing superstars.
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69. JMM - If PAC can't have a fight with anyone of the first 68 boxers on this list then maybe he can settle for JMM. ;D
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Why the fuck would Shane do that? Does PBF and Cotto have to fight at a catch-weight too?
Haha ;D That's part of Boxing Negotiation 101... PAC is the man of boxing right now... Shane is eagerly chasing for a PAC fight... He wants PAC then he should agree to go down to a catch weight to even things up since Mosley is naturally bigger... Same will apply to Cotto and PBF...
PAC was successful to have Hoya (the current boxing superstar) go down to 147... PAC could do the same to Mosley, Cotto and PBF...
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
I like it when Mosley showed publicly that he eagerly chasing Pacquiao... :)
If PAC can demolish Hatton, then why not a fight with Mosley probably at a catch weight of 144-145...
But this is the list of boxers (in order of priority), I want PAC to be his farewell fight before he retires at the end of this year:
1. PBF - hopes he unretires and fights PAC if PAC defeats Hatton more convincingly than what he did to Hatton.
2. Cotto - he started mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent but I doubt he can get past Clottey this coming June.
3. Mosley - well he fervently chasing PAC.
4. Valero - let's see if he can succeed PAC as one of boxing superstars.
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69. JMM - If PAC can't have a fight with anyone of the first 68 boxers on this list then maybe he can settle for JMM. ;D
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Why the fuck would Shane do that? Does PBF and Cotto have to fight at a catch-weight too?
Haha ;D That's part of Boxing Negotiation 101... PAC is the man of boxing right now... Shane is eagerly chasing for a PAC fight... He wants PAC then he should agree to go down to a catch weight to even things up since Mosley is naturally bigger... Same will apply to Cotto and PBF...
PAC was successful to have Hoya (the current boxing superstar) go down to 147... PAC could do the same to Mosley, Cotto and PBF...
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So Shane should kill himself making weight.......like Oscar did? Oscar fucked up there but Manny agreed to fight at 147. Why should a Welter have to come down in weight too?
Tell me
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Kel
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Originally Posted by
SaddoBoxer
I like it when Mosley showed publicly that he eagerly chasing Pacquiao... :)
If PAC can demolish Hatton, then why not a fight with Mosley probably at a catch weight of 144-145...
But this is the list of boxers (in order of priority), I want PAC to be his farewell fight before he retires at the end of this year:
1. PBF - hopes he unretires and fights PAC if PAC defeats Hatton more convincingly than what he did to Hatton.
2. Cotto - he started mentioning PAC as a possible future opponent but I doubt he can get past Clottey this coming June.
3. Mosley - well he fervently chasing PAC.
4. Valero - let's see if he can succeed PAC as one of boxing superstars.
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69. JMM - If PAC can't have a fight with anyone of the first 68 boxers on this list then maybe he can settle for JMM. ;D
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Why the fuck would Shane do that? Does PBF and Cotto have to fight at a catch-weight too?
Haha ;D That's part of Boxing Negotiation 101... PAC is the man of boxing right now... Shane is eagerly chasing for a PAC fight... He wants PAC then he should agree to go down to a catch weight to even things up since Mosley is naturally bigger... Same will apply to Cotto and PBF...
PAC was successful to have Hoya (the current boxing superstar) go down to 147... PAC could do the same to Mosley, Cotto and PBF...
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Forget it,Mosley is not 'going down' catchweight to chase,disect Pacquiao.Thats is funny :kar:....keep overlooking Hatton....Go ahead :cwm13:
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
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Originally Posted by
Kel
Why the fuck would Shane do that? Does PBF and Cotto have to fight at a catch-weight too?
Haha ;D That's part of Boxing Negotiation 101... PAC is the man of boxing right now... Shane is eagerly chasing for a PAC fight... He wants PAC then he should agree to go down to a catch weight to even things up since Mosley is naturally bigger... Same will apply to Cotto and PBF...
PAC was successful to have Hoya (the current boxing superstar) go down to 147... PAC could do the same to Mosley, Cotto and PBF...
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So Shane should kill himself making weight.......like Oscar did? Oscar fucked up there but Manny agreed to fight at 147. Why should a Welter have to come down in weight too?
Tell me
If Mosley is serious in pursuing a PAC fight then he should be willing to meet PAC halfway at 144 lbs. PAC is the man right now (specially if PAC annihilates Hatton) and it's expected for PAC to have the larger negotiating power...
Oscar fought PBF at 154
PBF fought Hatton at 147
PAC fought Oscar at 147
PAC will fight Hatton at 140
Weight class will come down to whoever has the larger say during negotiation...
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
NO! Just no!
Shane is too old for that shit are you crazy? Cotto moved up because he had to, he struggled to make 140.
Floyd? LOL, like that prick would ever give up an advantage....you really are mad!
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
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SaddoBoxer
Haha ;D That's part of Boxing Negotiation 101... PAC is the man of boxing right now... Shane is eagerly chasing for a PAC fight... He wants PAC then he should agree to go down to a catch weight to even things up since Mosley is naturally bigger... Same will apply to Cotto and PBF...
PAC was successful to have Hoya (the current boxing superstar) go down to 147... PAC could do the same to Mosley, Cotto and PBF...
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So Shane should kill himself making weight.......like Oscar did? Oscar fucked up there but Manny agreed to fight at 147. Why should a Welter have to come down in weight too?
Tell me
If Mosley is serious in pursuing a PAC fight then he should be willing to meet PAC halfway at 144 lbs. PAC is the man right now (specially if PAC annihilates Hatton) and it's expected for PAC to have the larger negotiating power...
Oscar fought PBF at 154
PBF fought Hatton at 147
PAC fought Oscar at 147
PAC will fight Hatton at 140
Weight class will come down to whoever has the larger say during negotiation...
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That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Mosley needs to come down to 144 to fight Pac? :rolleyes:
Get out of here with this nonsense!! This place has become a freakshow.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Kel
NO! Just no!
Shane is too old for that shit are you crazy? Cotto moved up because he had to, he struggled to make 140.
Floyd? LOL, like that prick would ever give up an advantage....you really are mad!
I dunno but PAC was able to have Oscar (whom is way much bigger in terms of negotiating power compared to Mosley, Cotto or PBF) killed himself going down to 147... Oscar chased the PAC fight and PAC smartly convinced Oscar to go down to 147 in order to seal the fight...;)
Actually fighting at a catch weight is just to even things up... Mosley, Cotto and PBF are naturally bigger boxers than PAC... ;)
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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SaddoBoxer
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Kel
So Shane should kill himself making weight.......like Oscar did? Oscar fucked up there but Manny agreed to fight at 147. Why should a Welter have to come down in weight too?
Tell me
If Mosley is serious in pursuing a PAC fight then he should be willing to meet PAC halfway at 144 lbs. PAC is the man right now (specially if PAC annihilates Hatton) and it's expected for PAC to have the larger negotiating power...
Oscar fought PBF at 154
PBF fought Hatton at 147
PAC fought Oscar at 147
PAC will fight Hatton at 140
Weight class will come down to whoever has the larger say during negotiation...
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That is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard. Mosley needs to come down to 144 to fight Pac? :rolleyes:
Get out of here with this nonsense!! This place has become a freakshow.
If Oscar who last fought at 147 8 years ago agreed to fight PAC at 147 then I think Mosley who last fought at 147 one month ago can easily make 144 specially if he will get an $8M guaranteed purse... What's 3 lbs. if you're guaranteed to get $8M ??
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.
People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.
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DLH lost his legs in the round 6 from head blows
ODLH lost the fight since the bell rang on round 1. He didn't do anything at all really. I can see the ODLH vs Hopkins fight where he lost by KO and see that Oscar was DOING A LOT! But lost. Oscar was doing fast combos, jabs, uppercuts, hooks, lateral movements, etc. Even though he lost, I think he boxed pretty good vs Hopkins. Now, vs Pac, he didn't do anything really.
Like I said before, I think Pac looked better beating Morales and Barrera, and also """beating""" JMM. Taking some punches, getting hurt and in wobbly legs and coming back, counter punching, etc. If ODLH did everything in his arsenal vs Pac (like he did vs Hopkins) and still lost then yeah, I would be impressed and all but not in a fight where he didn't do anything.
It's like getting excited about Lennox Lewis vs Oliver McCall II and saying "Oh my gawd! Lennox is the man! Did you see those combos?! Oh my gawd! Did you see that jab? Superb!" when McCall didn't do anything at all.
I can see Pac doing just fine in coming fights. He seems to have the right corner and skills.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.
People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.
This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.
IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:
#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM
It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Oscar was boxing 12 rounds fine in the gym, I don't think it was stamina, he just couldn't catch Pacquiao, people said he had no snap on his punches, but Pacquiao never let him find the range, hence Oscar was only throwing range finders against Manny. Mayweather made the mistake of getting caught on the ropes, and not using enough movement against Oscar, but Manny didn't.
IMO I think Mosley is a harder opponent for Pacquiao than Cotto. IMO I don't see Cotto being able to catch Pacquiao in a big ring. Timing is important, but as good as Cotto's timing is, his footspeed and his timing aren't comparable to JMM, like we saw with Oscar I think Pacquiao could get in and out before Cotto would be able to react, Judah never used enough footwork, or that fight would have been a lot tougher for Cotto because Judah should have throw the left cross and uppercut all night, but he didn't, nor did he set them up at all.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
I think the biggest money fight would be the winner of Hatton/Pac against Mosley.....Unless Money comes back than it would be winner of Hatton/pac vs Mayweather.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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I think the biggest money fight would be the winner of Hatton/Pac against Mosley.....Unless Money comes back than it would be winner of Hatton/pac vs Mayweather.
Even though there is buzz about JMM, I agree.... I also think the biggest money fight, provided Pacquiao wins East/West, is Mosley. The only thing is Top Rank has already lined up Cotto as long as he comes out the winner in June. ;D
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
Pac has to be careful for a couple of reasons. Firstly he cant let all this media speculation distract him from his first task, defeating Hatton. Take Ricky lightly and he could get hurt, and all these big fights will be out the window.
Pac also has to realise his limitations. He wins a lot of fights against fighters who are arguably more skilled than him thru having speed, strength and chin. Against Mosely he would be giving up atleast 2 of these (strength and chin) and maybe even 3 cos Shane aint slow.
I guess we'll know a lot more after the Hatton fight but i think if Shane is at the same level he was against Margarito in a Pac fight he takes out Pac in 6.
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Re: Shane Mosley vs Manny Pacquiao
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Taeth
In all honesty if Manny can handle Mosley's power he has a good chance in this fight, he punches straighter, has the same speed, and higher output. That left cross from Winky was a nightmare for Mosley much nearer to his prime, I think Manny will be able to land that punch at will. Also Mosley is the same elite level of technical boxer JMM was, I am not sure if he has the boxing ability to really exploit Manny's flaws. The only two people around Manny's weight I see that can/could do that are Mayweather and JMM.
People comment about Oscar being weight drained, but fighters who are weight drained aren't 3 pounds away from the weigh-in weight a week and more in advance. I think his corner made the mistake of trying to make him really light on his feet so he could rush in after Manny through that left hand ala JMM, but it really backfired because he wasn't quick enough to do that.
This is a complete fallacy.... being "weight drained" is just a term used to basically say he had no stamina. It is not technical in terms of boxing nutrition. It was obvious that De La Hoya had a lack of stamina for his fight with Pacquiao.
IMO: Pacquiao originally setup Margarito as his target after Hatton, but since that fell through.... Cotto stepped into the #2 slot. When Mosley beat Margarito, Mosley had since murmured Pacquiao's name hoping to get a shot at that mega money. Since JMM defeated Diaz it put him back on the list. So provided Pacquiao comes away with the bigger half of the wishbone the list is like this:
#1 PBF
#2 MC
#3 SSM
#4 JMM
It all depends on the outcome of Hatton/Pacquiao, Cotto/Clottey and if PBF unretires. It's a toss up as to which is the bigger money draw with Marquez or Mosley. The primary reason Cotto is before SSM and JMM is Cotto is with Top Rank. How powerful is the mega money.......? I don't think we'll see either Mosley or Marquez line up another fight without knowing the fate of Pacquiao / Hatton and Pacquiao's next opponent.
I've heard a number of Pac fans say Manny was weight drained when he got KTFO by singsurat, so if weight drain is a 'fallacy' did Manny lose that fight fair and square?
