Printable View
Used to be a big fan of TM in the 90s.
He was flawed but always fought with hart and entertained the fans unlike the deadbeats who are boxing in the heavyweight division today.
Sad to hear he was HIV possitive but was even more supprised when some years later he said he was not.
I would have thought it was quiet a straight YES/NO question but nobody seems to know the answer for sure.
:confused:?Anybody know?:confused:
Not to sound like a dick, but does it really matter? I mean he is almost 2 decades out of his prime.
Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I would if you are a fan of sombody the answer is YES!.:rolleyes:
He's making a comeback isn't he? I'm sure I heard him say on Buncey's Boxing Hour that he had Hep C at the time which can give false HIV results.
You cant cure HIV so he has it. Look at Magic johnson, he has it but if you saw him it would be hard to tell. He is just taking a ton of drugs and be real shady when they try and test him. His days as a top level fighter are over anyway....He should just hang them up but he is probably broke.
Exactly, all of his 3 comeback fights were in jurisdictions that do not require HIV tests.Quote:
Originally Posted by scousekilla
I still cant get over his breast implants. Now that he lost weight, they look really strange.
he was cleared a few years ago.
app. the first test he took gave hima false reading :mad:
I think he has aids. Even after that 'false postive' stuff he claimed. Look at him, the story is in his physical appearance.
The medications for it available today can pretty much nullify the progression if you have the money to afford it.
What kind of ass backwards state doesn't test for hiv/aids before a fighter gets in the ring? A guy must be pretty fatalistic to get into the ring with him.
Last I read was that he had been given a clear reading for HIV and was staging a comeback.Also read about the Hep C and how it can cause a bad reading for HIV, he does go on about it being a conspiracy against him etc etc, he should go as public as he can to get it confirmed ...........maybe Jerry Springer could run one of those reveal the results of your test shows:p
And yes given he was coming back and despite being passed it , I think it's a relevant question to post.
I think he has HIV. You don't stay out of a sport that can make you serious money for a decade if you haven't got it. A fighter shouldn't be allowed to box with HIV as far as I'm concerned. It's a bit nasty.
I think medically it may be constantly disputed but sort of the talk that concludes it self.Its like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube.If he does,I wish him the best.I dont know about his early career marital status but you can forget all of the feeg jokes,this guy must of had the women as he choose & lined by the truck load back in the day.Although I could never figure out why he insisted on wearing the eye liner ;D.Do hope he is smart about 'comeback'...has bad ending written all over it.Some of those bat tenders can punch.
if he indeed is HIV positive and fighting either way i hope he gets a case of chronic tumors on his nuts :mad:
Ive talked to the WV commisioner,he was triple blood tested by Lab Corp,and he came back clean every time
Well judging by that he does sound clear. I was going to post saying that I think he IS HIV but now maybe not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Yeah but good commissions like Nevada test the fighter themselves, to make sure there is no funny business with the samples. WV allowed Morrison to submit test from a private facility, and no one from the commission was their to oversea the test.
If Tommy Morrison really does not have HIV, all he needs to do is applied to fight in Nevada. If he passes a real HIV test, then he will be clean and able to fight in real juridictions again. Instead, all he does is cherry pick this weak commissions.
did he record the results on tape and then mail them to you? :rolleyes: was just wonderingn ;D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Why dont you call Mr Allred yourself douchebag?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdid he record the results on tape and then mail them to you? :rolleyes: was just wonderingn ;D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
....magic johnson is probably wondering the same thing.
don't be soooooooo touchy, not my fault Kid Thunder still sucks ass while you're "training" him :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlWhy dont you call Mr Allred yourself douchebag?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdid he record the results on tape and then mail them to you? :rolleyes: was just wonderingn ;D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Mr. Allred is incompetent for letting a fighter who has previously failed HIV tests, provide his own HIV test results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlWhy dont you call Mr Allred yourself douchebag?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesdid he record the results on tape and then mail them to you? :rolleyes: was just wonderingn ;D lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Any legitimate commission would say: "No Tommy, you dont get to monitor your own blood test, your taking OUR blood test."
exact same logic i had, but remember Monkey's the one sayin it, and i also think a fighter should be monitored by his trainer in person also:rolleyes: but hey that's just me ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutMr. Allred is incompetent for letting a fighter who has previously failed HIV tests, provide his own HIV test results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlWhy dont you call Mr Allred yourself douchebag?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Any legitimate commission would say: "No Tommy, you dont get to monitor your own blood test, your taking OUR blood test."
They did,they sent it through Lab CorpQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutMr. Allred is incompetent for letting a fighter who has previously failed HIV tests, provide his own HIV test results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlWhy dont you call Mr Allred yourself douchebag?Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Any legitimate commission would say: "No Tommy, you dont get to monitor your own blood test, your taking OUR blood test."
This is an article from Dan Rafael of ESPN from around the time of the WV fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlThey did,they sent it through Lab CorpQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutMr. Allred is incompetent for letting a fighter who has previously failed HIV tests, provide his own HIV test results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Any legitimate commission would say: "No Tommy, you dont get to monitor your own blood test, your taking OUR blood test."
"West Virginia doesn't require blood tests for boxers to be licensed, but Morrison said his Arizona results were sent to the West Virginia commission as a precaution.
"They don't require a test in West Virginia, but I took one anyway just to satisfy them," Morrison said. "
Morrison medically cleared to fight Thursday - Boxing - ESPN
Its not required,but Allred wanted one on this fight because of the obvious issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutThis is an article from Dan Rafael of ESPN from around the time of the WV fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlThey did,they sent it through Lab CorpQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
"West Virginia doesn't require blood tests for boxers to be licensed, but Morrison said his Arizona results were sent to the West Virginia commission as a precaution.
"They don't require a test in West Virginia, but I took one anyway just to satisfy them," Morrison said. "
Morrison medically cleared to fight Thursday - Boxing - ESPN
Governer Manchin keeps all of us on a relatively tight leash,so Allred wanted it before he'd approve,so did Mr Figaretti.
Hell for low level fights you still get a phone call from Mr Allred,and thats if your meds check with him
It went through Lab Corp
Call him your damned self and ask him,I did.
I don't know. But I wouldn't wanna sit near ringside to watch him fight.
i wont watch periodQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
Yea, but dont you see the difference in a fighter bringing his own test results to a state, as opposed to a fighter taking a test for the state. Tommy brought blood test which he allegedly had in at a private company in Arizona. He didn't take any new test in WV.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A WhirlIts not required,but Allred wanted one on this fight because of the obvious issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutThis is an article from Dan Rafael of ESPN from around the time of the WV fightQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
"West Virginia doesn't require blood tests for boxers to be licensed, but Morrison said his Arizona results were sent to the West Virginia commission as a precaution.
"They don't require a test in West Virginia, but I took one anyway just to satisfy them," Morrison said. "
Morrison medically cleared to fight Thursday - Boxing - ESPN
Governer Manchin keeps all of us on a relatively tight leash,so Allred wanted it before he'd approve,so did Mr Figaretti.
Hell for low level fights you still get a phone call from Mr Allred,and thats if your meds check with him
It went through Lab Corp
Call him your damned self and ask him,I did.
Also, Allread now has to defend his decision to let Tommy fight, other wise he was acting recklessly. So I wound not expect to hear anything different form him.