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First no trainer, and soon no promoter :o
HELP!
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...what if we never see him again? I wouldnt be mad...
I never liked Cotto, thought he was too hyped from the start. Now his entourage is disintegrating, and so will he.
Sorry, just don't like him.
well Cotto's not all hype, and has more legit wins than a hell of a lot of others, and the exact opposite goes with his loss, should most likely still be an undefeated fighterQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
The only reason you dont like Miguel is because you are a Paulette Maligf@ggi fan. He beat the shiet out of your boy with one hand ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
You talk about fighters who were hyped? Paulette was just that.
Sorry but your lame attempt to hate failed here son.
Say you don't like him... that's you're God-given right. But say he's "too hyped", and you should at least put forth an argument....Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
......well?
I could have Cotto!!!!!!!!!! lol
It's difinitely Arum's lost.
Danny G: wrong wrong wrong, I dont even remember that Malignaggi fight, it was one I missed and havent had a chance to see on youtube. How can I be a fan of a guy I never saw? YOure assumption was dead wrong.
Seems by your oddly hostile response that YOUR BOY must be Cotto.
Grow up.
Now to the other 2 civil and decent posters who asked me about the hype, yes---Cotto has been exaggeratedly hyped by HBO marketeers since Day One. You know what I mean? Like David Reid and Sam Peter and others, who were overhyped from the start. Non-stop comments of grandeur and stellar status about a young fighter who hadn't done too much yet, those first few years, when Lamply and the rest just non-stop praised and touted this guy--that IS the definition of too much HYPE, isn't it?:rolleyes:
Funny shit, the facial expressions were good.
Cotto too hyped? Maybe you don't like the attention he gets because you don't like him. But when someone says too hyped that means they don't deserve the hype. Cotto deserves every bit of hype he gets if not more. He beat a lot of the tough good fighters who the average fan doesn't know instead of holding out for business names and bigger money. Like Abdullaev, Torres, Quintana, N'dou, etc. And he has the name fighters under his belt also. You don't have to be a fan of the guy but don't blind yourself to the truth as to make up your own reality. If you don't like him, so be it. Just leave it at that.
HBO did not hype Cotto up, Miguel made a name for himself. The fact that the announcers were pleased and entertained should not be a surprise with as much boring fighters there are in the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
I know what your problem is though, you hate Puerto Ricans.
I am Mexican and it was hard to like Puerto Rican fighters because of the rivalry but it did not take me long to see what a great fighter Miguel is. You don't think Miguel is a decent fighter? I think he is very entertaining for one. You don't have to like him but to say he is nothing more than hype, makes me believe you don't know enough about him and or hate him for some other reason you are not mentioning here.
Cotto lost one fight to a man who is now suspended for being caught trying to cheat by loading his wraps with plaster. Now we don't know wether or not Margarito did or did not use it against Cotto but far too many people believe it is a strong very strong posibility that he did. Margarito hit Cotto once and his face was deformed, Shane Mosley hits much harder than Margarito and Cotto's face was not destroyed. I am just glad Margarito was caught because I would have hated seeing this happen to Shane Mosley at his age if you know what I mean.
Well, Cotto has beaten the shit out of everyone (practically) that has stepped in the ring with him. And Cotto is a fighter who engages in brutality and takes some too. What is not to like or hype about that quality in ANY boxer? And who hyped Sam Peter? The comparison to Cotto is a reach as well as David Reid, who when he fought a real guy in Trinidad, was smoked and never was the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
So the way Blegit and the other poster deals with my view is to accuse me of racism....hmmmm, are you guys sure you're not working for the ACLU?
Wilfredo Benitez is one of my 3 favorite fighters.....hmmmmm....there goes your Puerto Rican point.
As for Cotto, he has come on quite stronger than I expected. I'm talking about all the hype and hoopla in 2003, 2004, 2005, which I think he didn't deserve.
Blegit, you love accusing people of creating their own reality.....and what do YOU do, sir? Live in OTHER PEOPLES" reality? Or did you create one for yourself?
This is a forum made up of hundreds of posters' view of reality.
Why are you participating if you can't stomach another poster's reality?
Go to the BLEGIT BOXING FORUM where everybody will see things exactly how YOU see it. Then you'll be happy.
And cut the name-calling. YOu should have left that behind after 17 years of professional experience you have.
ok i was with you until the Reid thing, cause David Reid gave Tito fits early on in the fight and it ended up being a rather tough fight, and keep in mind Reid only had 14 pro fights by the time he stepped in with Trinidad, and Reid was already the WBA Jr.Middleweight champion with 2 defenses of the title, as for Trinidad ruining him, no it was actually Santos who had ruined him long before Reid even went pro, Daniel Santos is the cause of Reid's droppy eyebrow, and well yea Trinidad just did more damage to itQuote:
Originally Posted by RicanWell, Cotto has beaten the shit out of everyone (practically) that has stepped in the ring with him. And Cotto is a fighter who engages in brutality and takes some too. What is not to like or hype about that quality in ANY boxer? And who hyped Sam Peter? The comparison to Cotto is a reach as well as David Reid, who when he fought a real guy in Trinidad, was smoked and never was the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Brockton, there are very few, BUT IMPORTANT, rules on this board..Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Ignore saddoboxer, moono, and hattonthehammer.
and..
If you ever say anything, ANYTHING, negative about Cotto to Danny G, be prepared for an onslaught of a photoshop and movie making arsenal of insults coming in your direction.. He's the forum clown. He'll call you something like BrocktonCOCKbust or some other immature attempt at an insult to your name and then continue living his life as if there is some substance in what he just did.
It's something you get used to, really..
ok you want to talk about all hype and things like that, well fighters like BERTO get a lot more hype and given gift world titles without accomplishing half of what Cotto did in those 3 years you brought up, 2002 Cotto resumed his career after what could have been a career ending car crash,Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
and from 2002 to 2005 he beat the following,
Cesar Bazan
Carlos Maussa
Victoriano Sosa
Lovemore N'Dou
Kelson Pinto
Randall Bailey
DeMarcus Corley
Mohamad Abdulaev
Ricardo Torres
the following year he followed it up with
Gianluca Branco
Paulie Malignaggi
Carlso Quintana
and he beat them all by actually fighting them stopping 10 of the 12
wheres the hype?
The hype must be that all those guys had inflated records just like JCC Jr. or Yory Boy Campas who might have a nice-looking resume but against a bunch of nobodies or maybe just good journeymen. Just look at their records and see if they have any big name world class ranked champion or challenger in the list. Can we really say they are all top class opponents compared to other guys' resume's (Mosley, ODLH, Hopkins, etc.)? Maybe I am missing something, I don't know, but sometimes I wonder if Cotto will have a similar career like Fernando Vargas who was a good boxer and all but lost to top quality opponents who were in young and in their primes.
I don't dislike Cotto. The guy is not a trash-talker, has all around good skills (power, form, etc.), etc. It's just certain hardcore fans that make me want to see him lose again just like Pac hardcore fans. Pointing out flaws doesn't make anybody a hater or whatever, heck, I even point out flaws from guys I cheer for!
I strongly doubt that. Vargas is a punkass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
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Originally Posted by Chino
Amen to that brother
That's just total crap! So do you actually work for Arum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Cotto and every fighter should be able to represent themselves without receiving crap like that from boxing fans. Perhaps you can send him some fan mail and explain to him how it's done!
I give Cotto credit for his efforts to be a free agent :appl: and wish him every success....
So you hate hardcore fans but yet you would suck the cum clean dry out of ODLH testicals if you had the chance. lol Does this mean I should hate ODLH even more because both of you are g@y?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
;D
I guess this guy is clueless. It was a joke, if you don't understand the joke...Too bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyThat's just total crap! So do you actually work for Arum?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
Cotto and every fighter should be able to represent themselves without receiving crap like that from boxing fans. Perhaps you can send him some fan mail and explain to him how it's done!
I give Cotto credit for his efforts to be a free agent :appl: and wish him every success....
Amen to that brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GSo you hate hardcore fans but yet you would suck the cum clean dry out of ODLH testicals if you had the chance. lol Does this mean I should hate ODLH even more because both of you are g@y?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino
;D
lol!
The one that should be ignored is you. I have ignored your monkey arse in the past and I guess it's time to put your punk arse back in the ignore list because I was trying to get Brock to explain his view. Now get your punk arse back on my iggy list!Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33Brockton, there are very few, BUT IMPORTANT, rules on this board..Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Ignore saddoboxer, moono, and hattonthehammer.
and..
If you ever say anything, ANYTHING, negative about Cotto to Danny G, be prepared for an onslaught of a photoshop and movie making arsenal of insults coming in your direction.. He's the forum clown. He'll call you something like BrocktonCOCKbust or some other immature attempt at an insult to your name and then continue living his life as if there is some substance in what he just did.
It's something you get used to, really..
Funny stuff man...anyone know who may train Cotto?
NOoooooooo!! not your iggy list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GThe one that should be ignored is you. I have ignored your monkey arse in the past and I guess it's time to put your punk arse back in the ignore list because I was trying to get Brock to explain his view. Now get your punk arse back on my iggy list!Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33Brockton, there are very few, BUT IMPORTANT, rules on this board..Quote:
Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust
Ignore saddoboxer, moono, and hattonthehammer.
and..
If you ever say anything, ANYTHING, negative about Cotto to Danny G, be prepared for an onslaught of a photoshop and movie making arsenal of insults coming in your direction.. He's the forum clown. He'll call you something like BrocktonCOCKbust or some other immature attempt at an insult to your name and then continue living his life as if there is some substance in what he just did.
It's something you get used to, really..
clown.
Rumor has it that cutman Miguel Diaz might be the one but Diaz says no one has called him from Top Rank and that they are going to have to break him off a bigger piece of the pie if he is called. Both uncle and nephew were in court earlier so a lot of distractions here :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
....he got knocked the fuck out ?
Oh wait....his punk ass already has :lolhaha:
Hey I know Ricky got knocked out by one punchQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
YouTube - Ricky Hatton I Bumped Me Head Knock Out
Don't be making fun of little Ricky and his sand castle chin
:mad:
I think a remake of this video is due and is in order.
Please wait, please hold, I shall return with a burn :)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...ylistics/a.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
indeed ;D
LOL thats how you wind Danny G up. I knew exactly what the response would be.
I was actually only joking with you Danny...no need to get all sensitive posting clips now...Ive owned you enough times for you to realise you shouldn´t mess with me ;)
That's a damn good post. Too many times I've read how Cotto's list of opponents doesn't measure up somehow, and that is total B.S. in my opinion. Just because the guy isn't a household name, doesn't make him a bum. I've personally been to several of Cotto's fights, and have followed his career since the beginning. And sure, it's easy to say "so-and-so" was a bum after Cotto has beaten him. But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
So well said, blegit. You took the words right out of my keyboard.
:appl:
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Originally Posted by leftylee
indeed ;D
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
To brockton... see above.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanThat's a damn good post. Too many times I've read how Cotto's list of opponents doesn't measure up somehow, and that is total B.S. in my opinion. Just because the guy isn't a household name, doesn't make him a bum. I've personally been to several of Cotto's fights, and have followed his career since the beginning. And sure, it's easy to say "so-and-so" was a bum after Cotto has beaten him. But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
So well said, blegit. You took the words right out of my keyboard.
:appl:
But you gotta admit mine is better. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manilahttp://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...ylistics/a.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
indeed ;D
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
it would be shit if we didnt seee him again
shit like audley harrison
you shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manilahttp://i228.photobucket.com/albums/e...ylistics/a.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
indeed ;D
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
3-0 ;D
and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol
He dont dare touch EL TERRIBLE.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou shouldn't be laughin so much cause at least it was against a fighter who was thought to be game and now under suspicion of using illegal wraps, not brutally against an old fighter who was very much passed it like your man Haye :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
you banned yourself cause you couldn't take all the Haye bashing lol so what are you talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by leftylee
and you'd be the first in line to watch David Haye's nude calender shoot, you'd probably volunteer to hold his fire hose if he was doing a firefighter shot :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by leftyleeQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
Danny beat you to it boy, so now run off to the "Pac thongs for sale" thread. They got some new designs in I heard.
3-0 ;D
and i know you're gonna try and blast me with some bullshit diss about Morales, but the only difference is Erik is a legend and Haye is about to get KTFO AGAIN!!! lol
Not sure if I can really say that all his opponents are top world class champions. I see the guys in his resume and who they have beaten and they are not top world class opponents unless I am missing something. I see an old Zab Judah and a decision vs Mosley that could have gone either way. Other opponents in his resume seem to have a good record but, against who?Quote:
But in actuality, there's been very few soft opponents on his record. The first "break" I ever saw Cotto take was his fight against Gomez, and even then, there are those who would give Gomez more credit than I do
There seems to be an exciting list of top quality big name opponents who are young and in their prime that Cotto could face in the near future, let's see what happens.
Ricardo Torres became WBO jr.welter champ and has wins over Kendall Holt (by tko none the less) and Mike ArnaoutisQuote:
Originally Posted by Chino
Randall Bailey is still making noise at 140
Paulie Malignaggi went on to become IBF jr.welter champ and has wins over Edner Cherry, Lovemore N'Dou and Herman Ngoudjo (who's still a threat at 140)
Demarcus Corley former champion and had tested both Judah and Mayweather before him
Carlos Quintana was undefeated and had just beaten (then undefeated) Joel Julio, he later went on to win the WBO welterweight title being the only fighter to beat Paul Williams
Victoriano Sosa went the distance with Mayweather Jr and was stopped in 4 by Cotto