Froch vs Calzaghe

I dont know if you folks have already read that Froch and promoter are trying to get Calzaghe out on retirement and fight each other in at the Millenium Stadium sometime soon.Froch has stated in todays paper that he still iyching to fight calzaghe and said that there's no reason Calzaghe should'nt fight him in what would be the biggest british event since years.I do know that Calzaghe took part in the London run yesterday soo he's keeping fit.
I do know that Froch and his promoter Mick Henessey offered to fight Calzaghe before he retired at a price of 5 million pounds but Joe still turned it down,but Froch is willing for the fight to be made sooner or later.


what do u guys think,would Calzaghe come out of retirement if the money was right and is it a possibility that he would do soo?

self belief has to have some limits doesn't it? I guess that's one of Froch's strengths, always believes in himself but he'd get hammered by Calzaghe. Calzaghe would have a 400 plus connects type night, Froch's just too easy to hit.

No chance JC comes out of retirement! If he did he would lose imo. He has already settled into retirement and his mindset has changed, I don't think he could get the level of dedication back to fight Carl Froch. He said himself if he came back (or had carried on) he would lose.

Prime for prime JC would win avery lobsided decision imo

I don't know Big H, it would be one thing if he'd been retired for a while but if they made the fight in the next month or so and he got back into training I don't see any reason why he wouldn't beat Froch, he hasn't been out that long.

Of course its probably pointless as I don't think the fight will happen.

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I don't know Big H, it would be one thing if he'd been retired for a while but if they made the fight in the next month or so and he got back into training I don't see any reason why he wouldn't beat Froch, he hasn't been out that long.

Of course its probably pointless as I don't think the fight will happen.

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As a general rule I'd a gree, but I think Calzaghe is done in his own mind and has nothing more to give. I saw him interviewed a few weeks ago and he said he doesn't miss being in the gym or training and that he is 'Past It'

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I don't know Big H, it would be one thing if he'd been retired for a while but if they made the fight in the next month or so and he got back into training I don't see any reason why he wouldn't beat Froch, he hasn't been out that long.

Of course its probably pointless as I don't think the fight will happen.

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i think it would be a good old tear up.There's bad blood between these to and its been like that for a while now.Froch is riding high on the weekend win over Taylor and is calling out Calzaghe for a major fight over here in Cardiff wales in at the Millenium Stadium.With both fighter having their great reputation of being undefeated and with both fighters having great chins it would bwe a great fight to watch.I think you'll see a totally different Froch if he happened to fight joe.I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT HAPPEN!Now is the time to call out Calzaghe before he gets too relaxed.

Why Should Calzaghe fight him? Joe has all the money in the world. Froch is still trying to prove himself. There is no reason for Joe to come back. He has had bigger fights than this one. Plus Froch is unknown in America unlike Joe.

Why carnt Froch Just accept that Joe is happy in retirement and has been for nearly a year now? Joe has nothing to prove.

If this fight happend when Joe was still fighting.He out boxes Froch easy he tags him with the right hand at will imo. Froch would stand a punchers chance.Only way i see Joe losing is if he comes back now with not much hunger and trys to trade with Froch then he might get caught and put down.

It's a little funny how its asked that people be happy that Calzaghe is happy in retirement to not fight Froch yet say Floyd is retired just to duck people and should fight again ;)

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It's a little funny how its asked that people be happy that Calzaghe is happy in retirement to not fight Froch yet say Floyd is retired just to duck people and should fight again ;)

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There is a difference Calzaghe is no spring chicken no more.Floys is quite abit younger.

I've think Froch is a strong Super Middle due to his size and punching power, but, although Clzaghe may not be as powerful as he used to be let just look at one thing.

Froch was in trouble against Taylor. Now without lookin at stats, i'm bettin Taylor threw no where near the amount of shots Calzaghe would throw. Calzaghe would lead Froch a merry dance I believe.

Oh comon Calzaghe and Mayweathers positionms are very different.

Joe was a world champ for 11 years and is now in his late thirties, hes been very dedicated to stay undefeated and not lose a step in all those years and defences.

Joe hasnt been out for long, only 5 months, he has admitted before hes never liked training so thats thats no different but he wouldnt have lost much after just half a year out, unless the old Jones was deceiving in that Joe looked good but Jones was more ruined than suspected but then Jones did well against Sheika and Hopkins turned in a career best performance over Pavlik.

I dodnt even think a Calzaghe fight would earn Froch very much, it would take a massive wedge to tempt Joe out, considering there would be no prestige name opponent to bring him the glamour he wants but I bet you that Joe watched Froch on the weekend and thought "well if they do get together a nice purse its a very winnable fight"

Prime for prime there is no comparison but if we assume Joe has lost a step then I dont think Froch should get the fight ecause why should he make a name over someone like Joe who earned his the hard way and Froch only has himself to blame for not fighting Joe aleady as it was offered to them a few years ago before.

Boxing: Nottingham's Carl Froch fights for the WBC super-middleweight fight against Jermain Taylor this weekend | Sport | The Guardian

"Calzaghe didn't want to fight me," Froch repeated this week. But Warren claims he met Froch and his legal adviser at the Westbury Hotel in London in 2007 when the fighter was out of contract with Hennessy. "I offered him very good money to fight Calzaghe," Warren tells me. "To put it crudely, he crapped himself. He didn't want to know."

Another relevant snippet from this preview artical

Froch's record is not packed with celebrities, though, so, as he sees it, he is "moving out of the comfort zone into the danger zone" by coming to America to accept the tricky challenge of Taylor, a former middleweight champion who, at his peak, beat Bernard Hopkins twice, before losing twice to the robotic but powerful Kelly Pavlik.
Hopkins, who lost narrowly to Cal­zaghe a year ago, licked Pavlik like a postage stamp in October, and there are other form-lines all over this scenario. Perhaps the most relevant is Calzaghe's destruction of Jeff Lacy in 2006. In taking apart with disdainful ease the then-unbeaten American, Calzaghe was magnificent. It was the fight that told the world he was for real.
What is significant for Froch is Taylor's last fight: a routine points win over Lacy in November. Lacy put Taylor down, although it was not called, and was easily beaten in the end. But the point is, if Taylor could not do a better job on Lacy three years after Calzaghe had "finished" him, how will he handle Froch?
The answer is, he will struggle. Taylor is a slick stylist with a sneaky right hand and a lot of high-grade form, most of it deep in his past. If Froch starts slowly, he will lose on points because the 30-year-old Taylor is still smart enough to run and hide; if he takes the fight to Taylor, he will stop him as emphatically as Pavlik did in 2007.

Froch's heart and determination are commendable, but Calzaghe has heart and determination on par if not greater than Froch. Calzaghe doesn't tire and he may be the best of all time at volume punching (however, Pwill is fast moving up the ranks). In sum, Calzaghe would dominate Froch.

The question would be whether a Calzaghe v. Froch fight would be a big ticket seller in England. Would an american network buy it?

it would be a massive fight in this country, but i think jc is done with boxing, i cant see him coming back, i credit frochs pesistants for wanting the fight tho, hes not short on mineral

I can see Calzaghe tempted by this. The fight would now be MASSIVE in Britain.

If the Calzaghe that fought Jones turns up he will wipe the floor with Froch. He needs to have slipped badly since then to lose.

A young Calzaghe would have smashed Froch to pieces inside 4 rounds.

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I can see Calzaghe tempted by this. The fight would now be MASSIVE in Britain.

If the Calzaghe that fought Jones turns up he will wipe the floor with Froch. He needs to have slipped badly since then to lose.

A young Calzaghe would have smashed Froch to pieces inside 4 rounds.

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I just tried imagining a young Calzaghe in with Froch and I think he stops him, Calzaghe did hit hard, even Eubank admitted that.

If Joe had seen the slightest bit of reaction from Froch to any of his punches then Joe would be on him like thresher shark;D

Even if Joe now wouldnt have had the power to put Carl down but Carl did that daft stumble and pirrouet in to the ropes Joe would have poured it on and Carl wouldnt have got out of the 3rd.

Calzaghe easily beats Froch.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

self belief has to have some limits doesn't it? I guess that's one of Froch's strengths, always believes in himself but he'd get hammered by Calzaghe. Calzaghe would have a 400 plus connects type night, Froch's just too easy to hit.

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I AGREE 100%

Id like to see this fight just to witness Joes gloves smacking Frochs gob over and over but to be honest I think and im sure everyone else does as well that Joe would basically walk it, even smash said that Froch sould stay away from Kessler and Joe handled Kessler;)

Froch hasnt proved anything other than he can talk better than fight, when he fights a top supermiddle and puts a dominating display on then a Calzaghe fight might make sense but untill then it isnt that big a draw because regardless what Froch thinks this fight hasnt made him an overnight star:rolleyes:

Two undefeated british fighters with bad blood in between them in a big show down over here in the Millenium stadium!It would be the biggest fight out there or at leaste over here in the UK.It'll be awesome if Calzaghe takes the bait but the money has to be really tasty for Calzaghe to come running!We'll have to keep tuned...."again" on this outcome!

Calzaghe schools him, before going back to retirement.

Would much rather see a rematch with Hopkins or a fight with Dawson personally, but Froch is probably bigger now

I still don't think Froch is big enough to lure Joe out of retirement. Froch just had his first fight in American soil and beaten his biggest name to date. He doesn't have enough draw to make Calzaghe jump out and want the fight. IMO Joe is actually retired.

I think Joe is definatly retired,what did he get for fighting Bhop? 5million? more?

Joe would a ton of money to come out of retirment for a dangerous fight wich does practically nothing for him,he beats Froch so what.Already alot of fans dont care for frochs win over Taylor.Most fans think Joe would beat Froch p4p. Can't see it happening.

Would be great if it did though. I think Froch is just to easy to hit Joe would force the stoppage with sheer volume of punching IMO.

If his fitness has dropped sharply he's always got his boxing and ability to adjust to problems mid-fight to see him through.

BBC SPORT | Boxing | Calzaghe ends talk of Froch bout

I Cant Find Any Fight Film On Nathan Cleverly Enzo Calzage Was Talking About .just Workouts And Interviews Can Someone Shot Me A Link To Some Of His Fights Id Like To See Him In Action.

Froch desperately needs to STFU and stop acting the prick about Calzaghe, because he is never going to get anywhere near to being the same class as Joe and he is quickly turning the punters against himself!!:-X

His best quality is being an 'A' rated Prick;D and this over shadows his good boxing skills!!

He should just be happy that Calzaghes absence gives him the springboard to do well in the division and get on with it!!