It's a little funny how its asked that people be happy that Calzaghe is happy in retirement to not fight Froch yet say Floyd is retired just to duck people and should fight again![]()
It's a little funny how its asked that people be happy that Calzaghe is happy in retirement to not fight Froch yet say Floyd is retired just to duck people and should fight again![]()
I've think Froch is a strong Super Middle due to his size and punching power, but, although Clzaghe may not be as powerful as he used to be let just look at one thing.
Froch was in trouble against Taylor. Now without lookin at stats, i'm bettin Taylor threw no where near the amount of shots Calzaghe would throw. Calzaghe would lead Froch a merry dance I believe.
Oh comon Calzaghe and Mayweathers positionms are very different.
Joe was a world champ for 11 years and is now in his late thirties, hes been very dedicated to stay undefeated and not lose a step in all those years and defences.
Joe hasnt been out for long, only 5 months, he has admitted before hes never liked training so thats thats no different but he wouldnt have lost much after just half a year out, unless the old Jones was deceiving in that Joe looked good but Jones was more ruined than suspected but then Jones did well against Sheika and Hopkins turned in a career best performance over Pavlik.
I dodnt even think a Calzaghe fight would earn Froch very much, it would take a massive wedge to tempt Joe out, considering there would be no prestige name opponent to bring him the glamour he wants but I bet you that Joe watched Froch on the weekend and thought "well if they do get together a nice purse its a very winnable fight"
Prime for prime there is no comparison but if we assume Joe has lost a step then I dont think Froch should get the fight ecause why should he make a name over someone like Joe who earned his the hard way and Froch only has himself to blame for not fighting Joe aleady as it was offered to them a few years ago before.
Boxing: Nottingham's Carl Froch fights for the WBC super-middleweight fight against Jermain Taylor this weekend | Sport | The Guardian
"Calzaghe didn't want to fight me," Froch repeated this week. But Warren claims he met Froch and his legal adviser at the Westbury Hotel in London in 2007 when the fighter was out of contract with Hennessy. "I offered him very good money to fight Calzaghe," Warren tells me. "To put it crudely, he crapped himself. He didn't want to know."
Another relevant snippet from this preview artical
Froch's record is not packed with celebrities, though, so, as he sees it, he is "moving out of the comfort zone into the danger zone" by coming to America to accept the tricky challenge of Taylor, a former middleweight champion who, at his peak, beat Bernard Hopkins twice, before losing twice to the robotic but powerful Kelly Pavlik.
Hopkins, who lost narrowly to Calzaghe a year ago, licked Pavlik like a postage stamp in October, and there are other form-lines all over this scenario. Perhaps the most relevant is Calzaghe's destruction of Jeff Lacy in 2006. In taking apart with disdainful ease the then-unbeaten American, Calzaghe was magnificent. It was the fight that told the world he was for real.
What is significant for Froch is Taylor's last fight: a routine points win over Lacy in November. Lacy put Taylor down, although it was not called, and was easily beaten in the end. But the point is, if Taylor could not do a better job on Lacy three years after Calzaghe had "finished" him, how will he handle Froch?
The answer is, he will struggle. Taylor is a slick stylist with a sneaky right hand and a lot of high-grade form, most of it deep in his past. If Froch starts slowly, he will lose on points because the 30-year-old Taylor is still smart enough to run and hide; if he takes the fight to Taylor, he will stop him as emphatically as Pavlik did in 2007.
Last edited by ross; 04-27-2009 at 03:49 PM.
Froch's heart and determination are commendable, but Calzaghe has heart and determination on par if not greater than Froch. Calzaghe doesn't tire and he may be the best of all time at volume punching (however, Pwill is fast moving up the ranks). In sum, Calzaghe would dominate Froch.
The question would be whether a Calzaghe v. Froch fight would be a big ticket seller in England. Would an american network buy it?
it would be a massive fight in this country, but i think jc is done with boxing, i cant see him coming back, i credit frochs pesistants for wanting the fight tho, hes not short on mineral
I can see Calzaghe tempted by this. The fight would now be MASSIVE in Britain.
If the Calzaghe that fought Jones turns up he will wipe the floor with Froch. He needs to have slipped badly since then to lose.
A young Calzaghe would have smashed Froch to pieces inside 4 rounds.
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I just tried imagining a young Calzaghe in with Froch and I think he stops him, Calzaghe did hit hard, even Eubank admitted that.
If Joe had seen the slightest bit of reaction from Froch to any of his punches then Joe would be on him like thresher shark
Even if Joe now wouldnt have had the power to put Carl down but Carl did that daft stumble and pirrouet in to the ropes Joe would have poured it on and Carl wouldnt have got out of the 3rd.
Calzaghe schools him, before going back to retirement.
Would much rather see a rematch with Hopkins or a fight with Dawson personally, but Froch is probably bigger now
I still don't think Froch is big enough to lure Joe out of retirement. Froch just had his first fight in American soil and beaten his biggest name to date. He doesn't have enough draw to make Calzaghe jump out and want the fight. IMO Joe is actually retired.
I think Joe is definatly retired,what did he get for fighting Bhop? 5million? more?
Joe would a ton of money to come out of retirment for a dangerous fight wich does practically nothing for him,he beats Froch so what.Already alot of fans dont care for frochs win over Taylor.Most fans think Joe would beat Froch p4p. Can't see it happening.
Would be great if it did though. I think Froch is just to easy to hit Joe would force the stoppage with sheer volume of punching IMO.
If his fitness has dropped sharply he's always got his boxing and ability to adjust to problems mid-fight to see him through.
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