Everybody is self-promoting now?
So what's up with all these self-promoters now? We have Mayweather Promotions, Marquez Promotions, Hatton Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions (even when Oscar was still active). What's the deal here?
So who else out there is self-promoting?
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So what's up with all these self-promoters now? We have Mayweather Promotions, Marquez Promotions, Hatton Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions (even when Oscar was still active). What's the deal here?
So who else out there is self-promoting?
David Haye - Hayemaker Promotions
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So what's up with all these self-promoters now? We have Mayweather Promotions, Marquez Promotions, Hatton Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions (even when Oscar was still active). What's the deal here?
So who else out there is self-promoting?
It means they get to keep the 'promoters' % ;)
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What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
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What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
The lawyers negotiate on behalf of the promoters,on behalf of the fighters and are both leeches ;)
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What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
Promoters are the guys that put up the money for the events. That explains why their interests aren't always the interests of the boxers themselves.
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A few others I know are:
Manny Pacquiao promotions (Although working with Top Rank)
Roy Jones Jr
Jeff Lacy
Willie Limond
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armin
What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
Promoters are the guys that put up the money for the events. That explains why their interests aren't always the interests of the boxers themselves.
A prime example being Frank 'the leech' Warren ;)
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Forgot to add Joe Calzaghe as well.
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armin
What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
Promoters are the guys that put up the money for the events. That explains why their interests aren't always the interests of the boxers themselves.
Put up the money for the show in what sense, rent the arena and such? How's hbo/showtime fit in all of it?
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Forgot to add Joe Calzaghe as well.
Joe Calzaghe has said he would like to promote Kessler ;)
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armin
What exactly do promoters even do tho??? Negotiate? because isn't that what the lawyers do...I always just thought of promoters as leeches.
Promoters are the guys that put up the money for the events. That explains why their interests aren't always the interests of the boxers themselves.
Put up the money for the show in what sense, rent the arena and such? How's hbo/showtime fit in all of it?
Costs of venue, ticket sales, boxers purses, refs fee etc.
I'm not sure exactly how the TV part works, but I would
imagine there is a negotiation for the revenue drawn from
said event. HBO/SKY etc. to my knowledge don't pay for
events.
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I nearly made a thread about this a while back.
When you get as big as De La Hoya, PBF, Hatton, Marquez etc you don't need a promoter anymore. I think it's good for boxing, they can relate to the fighters and will no doubt look after them better than the Warrens, Kings, Arums and all the rest of them, plus they are taking money for promoting.
I'd rather have a fighter/ex fighter as a promoter over any of the ones I mentioned.
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Miguel Cotto also has his own promotion company
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David Diaz also has his own. Crap promotions
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doesn't winky have I-never-get-fights-signed promotions?
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doesn't winky have I-never-get-fights-signed promotions?
Yes.
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doesn't winky have I-never-get-fights-signed promotions?
yea casamayors was under that one, the Talk-a-lot promotion.
no wait casa had to vacant that after the jmm fight, his with the Career-down-the-drain-promotion now.
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I think it's not before time. It's about time someone put an end to the Bob Arum / Don King gravy train. I particularly don't like Arum, he's slimy little S.O.B. Unlike most I don't have much of a problem with Don King. He loves boxing and you have to give a man credit for staying on top for as long as he has. But anyway, I think promoters who were ex-fighters or current fighters are more *likely* to be on the boxers side than some NEVER boxed, NEVER trained, NEVER did any type of 1 on 1 unarmed combat promoter. You hear me Frank Warren ?
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I think it's not before time. It's about time someone put an end to the Bob Arum / Don King gravy train. I particularly don't like Arum, he's slimy little S.O.B. Unlike most I don't have much of a problem with Don King. He loves boxing and you have to give a man credit for staying on top for as long as he has. But anyway, I think promoters who were ex-fighters or current fighters are more *likely* to be on the boxers side than some NEVER boxed, NEVER trained, NEVER did any type of 1 on 1 unarmed combat promoter. You hear me Frank Warren ?
Don't get it twisted, boxing is a business. There will always be the Kings, Arums, Warrens, Palles etc. A promoter is there (like a promoter in any industry) to make money as a business. What happens is promoters get
contracts with fighters that don't have the means or connections to book
fights themselves. By the time the fighters do have the means they are still under contract and at the mercy of the promoter.
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Saw the Barrera vs Hamed fight last night just to pass time and noticed that Hamed also had his own promotion thing going on. Even Mills Lane "Let's Get it On" Promotions.