Who is more accurate and faster?: The case of Mayweather vs Marquez

I am a JMM fan and I'm hoping that JMM would be able to really counter Mayweather the way he had countered Pac.

I'm currently watching the fights of Mayweather right now especially his fights with Hatton and DLH. Against DLH, Mayweather seems to have a problem with DLH's jabs. Weight drained or not, those jabs didn't bother Pac at all.

If JMM was able to counter Pac really well, then against PBF, he has a chance of countering PBF. Pac has an unorthodox style (aside from being too fast). I guess this is the reason why BArrera, Morales, HAtton and DLH ultimately could not handle Pac. But this could not be said with JMM. JMM was able to counter Pac despite his unorthodox style. I'm wondering now if PBF's shoulder roll and defense would be effective against a great counter puncher.

Against HAtton, Mayweather seems to have a problem with HAtton's aggressiveness. Hatton was really doing well against PBF. ASide from the late TKo, I really believe HAtton was doing well against Mayweather despite the fact that he was also not moving his head. Mayweather, hardly took advantage of it. Hatton was doing the same thing against pac. He was also not moving his head and he was bullying Pac but it proved to be fatal for him.

LAstly, Pac knocked down JMM many times but he simply could not end him. If pac is too fast(against Diaz, Morales, BArrera), too strong (against HAtton) and accurate (against DLH) but still was ineffective against JMM, I wonder how MAyweather would handle JMM.:cool:

My forecast for this fight: SPLIT decision that could go to JMM's favor.

It's an interesting fight and I'm looking forward to it. I know it's boring to harp on about weight, but I do wonder how Marquez is going to carry almost 10 more pounds more weight. He seemed pretty filled out at 135 as it was.

I hope for a Marquez win, but my mind says Mayweather. I'm often wrong though and I hope I am again.

pbf's lucky that he is the bigger man. ability they're about equal, power i'd say marquez, speed pbf. i can see jmm winning with effective aggression with pbf backpedaling all night.

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

pbf's lucky that he is the bigger man. ability they're about equal, power i'd say marquez, speed pbf. i can see jmm winning with effective aggression with pbf backpedaling all night.

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I agree! Yes Floyd is the bigger man and he is faster but I think JMM will give him serious problems. After watching so many of Mayweather's fights I see him pulling back to the ropes using his philidelphia shell. So many of Mayweathers opponets have fought him stupidly. Hatton had the aggression right but he was head hunting all night. Mayweather is good at ducking and diving evading those headshots. This is where I believe the difference will be with JMM. I see JMM going to that exposed body much more than all the others and when the body shots connect its gonna open up Floyd's chin;D.

I think if they were equal size, which they almost are, I would say Mayweather's speed would play a larger factor, IMO Marquez being smaller is only an advantage for him because he will proportionally faster.

Also IMO Oscar's jab didn't trouble Mayweather that much, he really wasn't able to land it effectively all night, and Mayweather countered it plenty of times and landed his own jab more, and even though Marquez is a superior boxer to Oscar, he will never have a jab like Oscar's, not as hard(even p4p) not as long, not as accurate.

Marquez was able to counter Pacquiao because Pacquiao is out of position a lot, and MArquez is an extremely aggressive counter puncher, also he used a lot of footwork that really bothered Pacquiao, he really messed with Manny's distance which is of the greatest importance for Pacquiao to get off punches effectively.

I don't think Marquez will be weighing 10 more pounds than he ever has, he usually comes in slighly over 140, which is what Mayweather weighed when he fought at 135. I think their weights will be relatively similar, their size won't be drastically different. I am guessing Mayweather will weigh only as much more than Marquez as Pacquiao did in their second fight.

How did Mayweather hardly take advantage of Hatton's lack of head movement? How many flush right hands did he land? Or check left hooks? Hatton did alright, but he wasn't able to land anything, Mayweather defended against what he threw and countered off the ropes well. Obviously Manny beat Hatton faster, but Mayweather beat Hatton without losing a round as well. Regardless the most important fact of Mayweather vs Marquez and Pacquiao vs Marquez is that Mayweather gets off faster than Pacquiao, their speed might be even, and Pacquiao might be faster once he gets his punches going in combinations, but Mayweather gets off faster which means he can land a jab or right hand faster than Pacquiao can land anything, it might not be as hard, but it will get there faster, and Mayweather doesn't have to get out of position to deliver with that sort of speed whereas Pacquiao needs to sacrific balance to throw his punches which is what Marquez could capitalize on.

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Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

pbf's lucky that he is the bigger man. ability they're about equal, power i'd say marquez, speed pbf. i can see jmm winning with effective aggression with pbf backpedaling all night.

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I agree! Yes Floyd is the bigger man and he is faster but I think JMM will give him serious problems. After watching so many of Mayweather's fights I see him pulling back to the ropes using his philidelphia shell. So many of Mayweathers opponets have fought him stupidly. Hatton had the aggression right but he was head hunting all night. Mayweather is good at ducking and diving evading those headshots. This is where I believe the difference will be with JMM. I see JMM going to that exposed body much more than all the others and when the body shots connect its gonna open up Floyd's chin;D.

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Castillo who might be as good of a body puncher as Cotto, was not able to get to Mayweather with body shots, but I agree its the only way to land effectively on Mayweather, however, I really doubt he will be running from Marquez, I think we expect a more Mayweather-G.Hernandez type performance on Mayweather's part. I certainly expect more combinations and offensive artillery.

Mayweather didn't lose a round to Hatton:confused:. I don't guess I was watching the same fight! Comparing Hatton to Marquez is like comparing fatty meat to USDA prime cut. Marquez is better than Hatton on all fronts, counter punching, speed, chin ect....

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

pbf's lucky that he is the bigger man. ability they're about equal, power i'd say marquez, speed pbf. i can see jmm winning with effective aggression with pbf backpedaling all night.

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I agree! Yes Floyd is the bigger man and he is faster but I think JMM will give him serious problems. After watching so many of Mayweather's fights I see him pulling back to the ropes using his philidelphia shell. So many of Mayweathers opponets have fought him stupidly. Hatton had the aggression right but he was head hunting all night. Mayweather is good at ducking and diving evading those headshots. This is where I believe the difference will be with JMM. I see JMM going to that exposed body much more than all the others and when the body shots connect its gonna open up Floyd's chin;D.

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Castillo who might be as good of a body puncher as Cotto, was not able to get to Mayweather with body shots, but I agree its the only way to land effectively on Mayweather, however, I really doubt he will be running from Marquez, I think we expect a more Mayweather-G.Hernandez type performance on Mayweather's part. I certainly expect more combinations and offensive artillery.

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Castillo connected with body shots in the first fight no?

But he didn't hurt Mayweather with them, the only reason that fight was as down the wire as it was, was because Floyd badly hurt his left rotator cuff. Floyd clearly showed when he could jab for 12 rounds that Castillo wasn't as good as him. Marquez's style IMO will be easier for Floyd.

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Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

So many of Mayweathers opponets have fought him stupidly.

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save that comment for Pacquiao

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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Exactly!

The glaring thing I noticed since this fight was announced is a mirror image to what had to be a factor in Floyds mind about how he intends to dismantle JMM, which is Pac fans trying to build up JMM as they are doing it to will him on to defeat Mayweather so that way it will make Pacs EXTREMELY questionable draw and win look better if Marquez catches lightning in the bottle and defeats Mayweather.

In Floyds mind he will comprehensively beat JMM and use that in the Mayweather/Pac promotion to one up Pacquiao

Whoever says Marquez ability is on par with Mayweather is just ridiculous, whatever marquez can do Floyd can do better, just a simple fact. I welcome anyone to intellegintly argue that

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Originally Posted by levi#1BoxingFan

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Originally Posted by Pavlik

pbf's lucky that he is the bigger man. ability they're about equal, power i'd say marquez, speed pbf. i can see jmm winning with effective aggression with pbf backpedaling all night.

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I agree! Yes Floyd is the bigger man and he is faster but I think JMM will give him serious problems. After watching so many of Mayweather's fights I see him pulling back to the ropes using his philidelphia shell. So many of Mayweathers opponets have fought him stupidly. Hatton had the aggression right but he was head hunting all night. Mayweather is good at ducking and diving evading those headshots. This is where I believe the difference will be with JMM. I see JMM going to that exposed body much more than all the others and when the body shots connect its gonna open up Floyd's chin;D.

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Castillo who might be as good of a body puncher as Cotto, was not able to get to Mayweather with body shots, but I agree its the only way to land effectively on Mayweather, however, I really doubt he will be running from Marquez, I think we expect a more Mayweather-G.Hernandez type performance on Mayweather's part. I certainly expect more combinations and offensive artillery.

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Castillo was all over PBF in their first fight. And YES he landed to the body often and hard. He out threw and outlanded him.

Mayweather will not bring the offense. He has not been a combination puncher since before the Gatti fight. He likes to slow the boxing down to an almost standstill. It's what make PBF fights so boring, and winnable for "the cash cow."

Definitely right about Floyd having some opponents who just abandoned their game plan after stepping through the ropes.

I would say Floyd has the advantage in speed but I think both are very accurate with maybe Marquez slightly getting the nod in that department. I just think the advantage Floyd gains from being at the higher weight and Floyd's superior defense will win the day. Marquez gets hit alot and Floyd has the speed and power to bother Juan. I say Floyd wins comfortably on points, maybe 5 points give or take.

You never know though, JMM comes to fight and is definitely going to have his moments here and there. I am looking forward to the fight.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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marqs the heavier puncher and if he can carry his from from 126/135 into 147 he should have the faster hands.

Mayweather is the smarter and more precise fighter and boxing smarts more often than not get the better of raw aggression!

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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marqs the heavier puncher and if he can carry his from from 126/135 into 147 he should have the faster hands.

Mayweather is the smarter and more precise fighter and boxing smarts more often than not get the better of raw aggression!

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I have to argue that dude.. I think most are forgetting Floyds career south of 147 he was more virtuoso and more than exciting.. he Koed and tkoed quite a string of impressive opposition.

I ask why you think Marquez is a better puncher?

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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marqs the heavier puncher and if he can carry his from from 126/135 into 147 he should have the faster hands.

Mayweather is the smarter and more precise fighter and boxing smarts more often than not get the better of raw aggression!

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I have to argue that dude.. I think most are forgetting Floyds career south of 147 he was more virtuoso and more than exciting.. he Koed and tkoed quite a string of impressive opposition.

I ask why you think Marquez is a better puncher?

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im pretty much just going on both of the guys performances at 126

i always thought floyd was more about speed and the ability he had to fight off the back foot rather than marquez who quite often saw off opposition by blowing them away with his strength and hand speed.

Wouldnt be surprised one bit if floyd does become the dominant fighter from the word go as he is far more established at 147. But if marq can manage to use the extra weight to his advantage he might just have a chance!!

I'd take Marquez as one of the most accurate puncher's of all time and Mayweather as one of the fastest of all time. P4P of course. I am very excited too watch this,but I still can not see Marquez pulling this one out. Mayweather is just too big at this point. Marquez has to just focus on Mayweather's ring rust and beat him with ring intelligence.

Faster: easily PBF
Accuracy: JMM

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Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Faster: easily PBF
Accuracy: JMM

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Curious what compubox says

Mayweather is faster,and more accuurate imo. I am not a Mayweather fan but think he is a step above JMM. I predict a late stoppage or very clear points win, JMM is'nt getting any younger and is smaller.Only way i see a JMM win is if Floyd shows up with ring rust.(But will be gunning for JMM but just dont see it).

Okay 1st things 1st, Floyd never fought at 126 :rolleyes:

Secondly, this fight is a crock of shit. Im so disappointed that this fight is happening anywhere north of 140.

Some people have speculated about Marquez' power...?
Well I agree that there could be some marginal increase in his power since his 126/30 days but to be fair, Marquez has HAD to lay on the steak in his last couple of Wars. He's been forced to dig deep and bring on the KO'S. To me, that's a glaring testament to a subtle decline, if anything.

If i'm honest, Iv'e never been to good with assuming how a fighter will look at a new weight. I got it horribly wrong With Floyd at 154 and Pac at 147... Even Williams at 168. But with Marquez, im pretty sure there will be absolutely NO increases (let a lone advantages) in speed and power.

The scary thing about this fight, is that with Marquez' biggest asset being accuracy. How bad is he going to look against Floyd's unearthly timing and reflexes.

JT rock is spot on is assuming that Floyd holds all the advantages.

For me this fight does nothing for Boxing, or the P4P ratings.

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Im so disappointed that this fight is happening anywhere north of 140.



Can't see floyd wanting to get in the ring any less after 18 month layoff

Yeah that part is obvious.

Im focusing more on Marquez and why i hoped he'd just knock the whole idea on the head because it JUST DOESN'T FIT.

This fight is nonsense.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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Exactly!

The glaring thing I noticed since this fight was announced is a mirror image to what had to be a factor in Floyds mind about how he intends to dismantle JMM, which is Pac fans trying to build up JMM as they are doing it to will him on to defeat Mayweather so that way it will make Pacs EXTREMELY questionable draw and win look better if Marquez catches lightning in the bottle and defeats Mayweather.

In Floyds mind he will comprehensively beat JMM and use that in the Mayweather/Pac promotion to one up Pacquiao

Whoever says Marquez ability is on par with Mayweather is just ridiculous, whatever marquez can do Floyd can do better, just a simple fact. I welcome anyone to intellegintly argue that

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There's one thing Marquez has proven he can do well, while Mayweather is still a question mark.

Fight. Not box, but fight. The thing is, Mayweather is so good, he's rarely had to show his heart. Marquez trumps PBF all day long in that category. I will say that Floyd has fought through adversity well in spots - the first Castillo fight comes to mind, as well as fighting through the rust with Augustus - but I've never seen him in a fight where his skill wasn't enough. I do think there may be a few fighters out there who could test him in this way, but I doubt that Marquez is one of them. Floyd doesn't fight to win (at least nowadays), he fights to not lose. And he's brilliant at it. The only way I see anyone beating him is by forcing him to open up offensively in order to win.

And that might be next to impossible.

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I am a JMM fan and I'm hoping that JMM would be able to really counter Mayweather the way he had countered Pac.

I'm currently watching the fights of Mayweather right now especially his fights with Hatton and DLH. Against DLH, Mayweather seems to have a problem with DLH's jabs. Weight drained or not, those jabs didn't bother Pac at all.

If JMM was able to counter Pac really well, then against PBF, he has a chance of countering PBF. Pac has an unorthodox style (aside from being too fast). I guess this is the reason why BArrera, Morales, HAtton and DLH ultimately could not handle Pac. But this could not be said with JMM. JMM was able to counter Pac despite his unorthodox style. I'm wondering now if PBF's shoulder roll and defense would be effective against a great counter puncher.

Against HAtton, Mayweather seems to have a problem with HAtton's aggressiveness. Hatton was really doing well against PBF. ASide from the late TKo, I really believe HAtton was doing well against Mayweather despite the fact that he was also not moving his head. Mayweather, hardly took advantage of it. Hatton was doing the same thing against pac. He was also not moving his head and he was bullying Pac but it proved to be fatal for him.

LAstly, Pac knocked down JMM many times but he simply could not end him. If pac is too fast(against Diaz, Morales, BArrera), too strong (against HAtton) and accurate (against DLH) but still was ineffective against JMM, I wonder how MAyweather would handle JMM.:cool:

My forecast for this fight: SPLIT decision that could go to JMM's favor.

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I agree with you!!! My Prediction will be a Disputed decision for PBF or A DRAW!!!

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I would say Floyd has the advantage in speed but I think both are very accurate with maybe Marquez slightly getting the nod in that department. I just think the advantage Floyd gains from being at the higher weight and Floyd's superior defense will win the day. Marquez gets hit alot and Floyd has the speed and power to bother Juan. I say Floyd wins comfortably on points, maybe 5 points give or take.

You never know though, JMM comes to fight and is definitely going to have his moments here and there. I am looking forward to the fight.

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Floyd has a big advantage in size. He is taller by two inches and has a five inch longer reach. Did anyone see them standing next to eachother at the news conference for the announcement of the fight prior to the Pacquiao fight? To me, the disparity in size was glaring.

There are, of course, ways to counteract an opponent's size advantage, but the advantage plays into Floyd's whole style. Even if he were fighting a boxer of the same stature, Floyd would use his superior footwork to outmaneuver and out-position his opponent. In this way, a smaller opponent is even better for that style because he has to worry less about having to exchange and by using his reach advantage.

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Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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There's one thing Marquez has proven he can do well, while Mayweather is still a question mark.

Fight. Not box, but fight. The thing is, Mayweather is so good, he's rarely had to show his heart. Marquez trumps PBF all day long in that category. I will say that Floyd has fought through adversity well in spots - the first Castillo fight comes to mind, as well as fighting through the rust with Augustus - but I've never seen him in a fight where his skill wasn't enough. I do think there may be a few fighters out there who could test him in this way, but I doubt that Marquez is one of them. Floyd doesn't fight to win (at least nowadays), he fights to not lose. And he's brilliant at it. The only way I see anyone beating him is by forcing him to open up offensively in order to win.

And that might be next to impossible.

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I agree completely and I'm not sure Manny or Marquez, as smaller fighters, have the ability to do it. Also, even when that is done, it's not certain that Floyd will wilt.

That said, maybe Floyd will come out fighting in this one so that he can get the upper hand in negotiations with Pacquiao. Pacquiao bested Floyd in his wins over ODLH and Hatton. Will Floyd best Pacquiao in his win over Marquez to provide him more leverage in negotiation?

Marquez is a warrior and a great boxer. I'll never completely count him out, but the odds are against him.

I'm not sure Marquez's ability to time and counter punch has been mentioned yet. Probably because it is near impossible to out-time Floyd.

I'm still looking forward to the fight, though ;D

My money is on Money, but I'm rooting for Marquez, just because I think he is a great fighter who deserves more respect than he gets.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mayweather is faster and more accurate.

Mayweather has the advantage in every catergory. :mad:

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marqs the heavier puncher and if he can carry his from from 126/135 into 147 he should have the faster hands.

Mayweather is the smarter and more precise fighter and boxing smarts more often than not get the better of raw aggression!

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I have to argue that dude.. I think most are forgetting Floyds career south of 147 he was more virtuoso and more than exciting.. he Koed and tkoed quite a string of impressive opposition.

I ask why you think Marquez is a better puncher?

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Who's has the toughest chin among the PBF opponents??? Did PBF Ko them??

Castillo, DLH & Famoso were the toughest Chin among PBF's opponents. Hatton & Chico stopped Castillo but PBF can't. Pac stopped DLH. PBF Can't. Famoso KD by Pac's Brother. PBF can't even drop Famoso.

Now look at JMM's resume? JMM the only one who stopped Diaz & Casamayor. Do you think PBF's capable of Koing both guys? I don't hink so!!

Who's has the toughest chin among the PBF opponents??? Did PBF Ko them??

Castillo, DLH & Famoso were the toughest Chin among PBF's opponents. Hatton & Chico stopped Castillo but PBF can't. Pac stopped DLH. PBF Can't. Famoso KD by Pac's Brother. PBF can't even drop Famoso.

Now look at JMM's resume? JMM the only one who stopped Diaz & Casamayor. Do you think PBF's capable of Koing both guys? I don't hink so!![/quote]

I'm a Pac fan but take those blinkers off!

1/ Mayweather fought Oscar at 154,he was much closer to his prime and NOT weightdrained.Pac fought an absolute shell of Oscar at 147 + Roach's 'rules'.Any decent fighter north of 135 would have beat Oscar that night.He was a walking punchbag.
2/ Mayweather fought a prime Castillo at his best weight.Hatton fought a shot Castillo at a weight where he was uneffective. Chico v Castillo - total war,either man could of went,both men exhausted.

I'm not sure there's a more accurate puncher in boxing than Marquez

speed though obviously is in Floyd's favor.

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marqs the heavier puncher and if he can carry his from from 126/135 into 147 he should have the faster hands.

Mayweather is the smarter and more precise fighter and boxing smarts more often than not get the better of raw aggression!

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I have to argue that dude.. I think most are forgetting Floyds career south of 147 he was more virtuoso and more than exciting.. he Koed and tkoed quite a string of impressive opposition.

I ask why you think Marquez is a better puncher?

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Who's has the toughest chin among the PBF opponents??? Did PBF Ko them??

Castillo, DLH & Famoso were the toughest Chin among PBF's opponents. Hatton & Chico stopped Castillo but PBF can't. Pac stopped DLH. PBF Can't. Famoso KD by Pac's Brother. PBF can't even drop Famoso.

Now look at JMM's resume? JMM the only one who stopped Diaz & Casamayor. Do you think PBF's capable of Koing both guys? I don't hink so!!

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hahah, what a stupid comparison.. i like how you used the word "can't" also.. PBF DIDN'T (not can't) knock those guys out, but if you think he is physically unable to then you're crazy..

If you can't tell the difference in Pac's style compared to PBF's style then you are a disgrace as a boxing fan.. Floyd fights technically, and as far as i'm concerned, he plans to go 12 rounds in every fight.. if the KO comes then it comes, if not he's fighting for the decision. Pacquaio is just balls to the wall offense the entire fight, vs Floyd's defense/counter punching the entire fight.. BIT of a difference.

Said it before but I think this is a prime example of Mayweathers tip toeing through the tulips and cherry picking on what he percieves to be an easy mark.Dont get me wrong,Marquez is no flower and certainly is no cherry....he's also not a 140 + fighter who can retain his peak form at that weighty range with added years Imo.

I think this strictly boils down to Mayweather feeling as though Pacquiao has blazed past him in the spotlight and is looking to achieve some familiarity relating to Manny ventured against a key Nemesis and reclaim his throne in the mythical p4p ranks.All the while looking ahead to a mega showdown with the new cash cow Pacquiao.

As far as punching,speed etc.Think JMM will be a bit stiff here,packed too tight with that weight,movement heavy a foot but I think Marquez is def the more precise and willing puncher shot for shot.He focuses on one or two punches once he zeros in on a guys holes in their armor.As of late,he looks to be sitting more in the pocket but remains a sharpshooter over and under,while taking a bit more in return.He is a kingpin at capitalizing on his round to round progression/momentum & looks to press his advantages where as Mayweather is content to flurrie with better blazing hand speed,make an impact and then move out,admires his work...looks to reset off backfoot....almost punches from the backseat.He'll come in and bomb,the Ndou fight springs up,but its not in his nature.. much more content to score points unless he is in absolute obvious pot shot at will control most of the time.In this one,I think he needs to look explosive and potent...that slip & slide-countering-look great another day attitude has worn a bit thin.

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Said it before but I think this is a prime example of Mayweathers tip toeing throw the tulips and cherry picking on what he percieves to be an easy mark.Dont get me wrong,Marquez is no flower and certainly is no cherry....he's also not a 140 + fighter who can retain his peak form at that weighty range with added years Imo.

I think this strictly boils down to Mayweather feeling as though Pacquiao has blazed past him in the spotlight and is looking to achieve some familiarity relating to Manny ventured against a key Nemesis and reclaim his throne in the mythical p4p ranks.All the while looking ahead to a mega showdown with the new cash cow Pacquiao.

As far as punching,speed etc.Think JMM will be a bit stiff here,packed too tight with that weight,movement heavy a foot but I think Marquez is def the more precise and willing puncher shot for shot.He focuses on one or two punches once he zeros in on a guys holes in their armor.As of late,he looks to be sitting more in the pocket but remains a sharpshooter over and under,while taking a bit more in return.He is a kingpin at capitalizing on his round to round progression/momentum & looks to press his advantages where as Mayweather is content to flurrie with better blazing hand speed,make an impact and then move out,admires his work...looks to reset off backfoot....almost punches from the backseat.He'll come in and bomb,the Ndou fight springs up,but its not in his nature.. much more content to score points unless he is in absolute obvious pot shot at will control most of the time.In this one,I think he needs to look explosive and potent...that slip & slide-countering-look great another day attitude has worn a bit thin.

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How can you fault the man for always beating his opponent comprehensively?

Floyd doesn't cherry pick IMO, I think he just picks certain fights at certain times that make them the biggest fight possible.

Was there a better moment for him to face Judah(well obviously before Baldomir beat him), or Baldomir or Oscar or Hatton? Mayweather has picked his opponents based on timing not cherry picking IMO, I think he would fight anyone under the right circumstances and thats what he says.

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Originally Posted by Spicoli

Said it before but I think this is a prime example of Mayweathers tip toeing throw the tulips and cherry picking on what he percieves to be an easy mark.Dont get me wrong,Marquez is no flower and certainly is no cherry....he's also not a 140 + fighter who can retain his peak form at that weighty range with added years Imo.

I think this strictly boils down to Mayweather feeling as though Pacquiao has blazed past him in the spotlight and is looking to achieve some familiarity relating to Manny ventured against a key Nemesis and reclaim his throne in the mythical p4p ranks.All the while looking ahead to a mega showdown with the new cash cow Pacquiao.

As far as punching,speed etc.Think JMM will be a bit stiff here,packed too tight with that weight,movement heavy a foot but I think Marquez is def the more precise and willing puncher shot for shot.He focuses on one or two punches once he zeros in on a guys holes in their armor.As of late,he looks to be sitting more in the pocket but remains a sharpshooter over and under,while taking a bit more in return.He is a kingpin at capitalizing on his round to round progression/momentum & looks to press his advantages where as Mayweather is content to flurrie with better blazing hand speed,make an impact and then move out,admires his work...looks to reset off backfoot....almost punches from the backseat.He'll come in and bomb,the Ndou fight springs up,but its not in his nature.. much more content to score points unless he is in absolute obvious pot shot at will control most of the time.In this one,I think he needs to look explosive and potent...that slip & slide-countering-look great another day attitude has worn a bit thin.

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How can you fault the man for always beating his opponent comprehensively?

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Because people don't like to pay money to watch a snooze fest!

floyd has the speed
jmm has the accuracy

but when they fight each other floyd will have both and jmm wont be so accurate against floyds tight defense.