Handspeed

Hey guys, I know that there are probably a hundred threads on guys asking for RJJ speed and the answer is most often genetics. But for me handspeed has been a problem for me lately. Thanks to my defence I never get hit but neither does my opponent. I find I telegraph my intentions and they are written all over my face (Im going to work on that as well but my speed can definitely be improved). I watch guys like Floyd Mayweather Jr and especially Roy Jones Jr and look in awe (and with much jealousy ;D). I know they are genetically blessed individuals but as a slick outboxer (describing the style) I really need more speed than I have. I want to land my punches not just "look busier". If I could land more of my punches that would be great as I have pretty good power but they just dont land that often. Any suggestions guys?

Keep of the Heavy Bag, it slows you down.To much impact on the elbows, where the speed comes from. It tightens the Tendons on the Triceps, slows movement. Get on the Top and Bottom Ball more ;D

This may sound stupid Rocky, and yea, genetics does play a majpr role.

But one thing I have noticed in increasing handspeed, is alot of it is in the mind. I mean, I have worked on tellng myself, 'throw faster. snap faster. Quick man, Throw Quick!" day in and out before ever stepping in the gym, days off, when drifting off to sleep at night. And that shit works.

I'm not discounting various physical methods, am sure as Scrap suggests, there are good and bad ways of going about it. But never underestimate the power of the mind.

I once had a Boxer in the Gym, who was tested as having the Fastest reflexes ever recorded in Britain 1/6000 of a second. Also He was the slowest Puncher in the Gym. He thought to much ;D

Have to agree if the think tank is full you are slower.

Free fight shadow boxing just going nuts getting them out there with no thought, moving and hitting.

(no need for pre thought, you know exactly how to hit already you've done it millions of times already).

Do it without gloves dont grip your fingers stay loose. Warm up all your joints, stretch them lightly,fingers wrists elbows shoulders then totally, shake hands out, shake arms out, get them floppy and free feeling.
Then free flight air punch from a low relaxed guard, with your arms relaxed ,with out thinking anything or analyzing just have total fun for while and make some mistakes. No power just touches.Just jab or do rising straight shots vary when your loose enough between elbow out and elbow down so that you incorperate all muscle structure around your arms. Also if you hold a smile and have fun, your brian will give you more space to work within any given moment.

Then after a few sessions of free flight, not caring and you feel more free and empty; you then start to only think about getting your hands back; very fast, as fast as you can ; that way you go past the pre thought of moving them outwards. If the thought isnt there at all ,how can they read it on you?

The try hitting someone but your whole intent is getting your arm down onto their lead arm as fast you can after the face contact and then throw your other hand. After that, you go on and only think of the second punch etc etc out into into free flowing combos of pure speed; but start at the begining and hit the stages or you'll over think it.

lol, I'm not sure if you guys are dogging on what I said, or maybe missing my point. Or think I am completely wrong. :p

What I suggest is, or was trying to, is that you do alot of your thinking regarding such things long before you get into the ring. To have it be instilled already into those receptors of the brain, so when in fact you are in there...there is no longer that need to actually think so much.

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Or you guys think I am completely off? lol

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lol, I'm not sure if you guys are dogging on what I said, or maybe missing my point. Or think I am completely wrong. :p

What I suggest is, or was trying to, is that you do alot of your thinking regarding such things long before you get into the ring. To have it be instilled already into those receptors of the brain, so when in fact you are in there...there is no longer that need to actually think so much.

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Or you guys think I am completely off? lol

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Yeah agreed mate your right the mind controls absolutely everything.
My thoughts are thatto go into the moment fully and run at your best you have to do so freely without thought at the moment.
Think before ,train before, but don't get stuck in that rut once you know or you'll bring that into the fight.

X2 ;d

Preperation is where People go wrong most of the time. Forget about Punching, think what you want the muscle to do then train the muscles adaptability to perform the action. Train the muscles Tendons and Neurons to perform what you want them to do. There are loads of little things you can do for speed of movement before applying it to practice.

Thanks guys this helped a ton

I tried it out guys: MAN!!! I was landing all over the places. My leads were connecting. Turns out I was just too tense before and I needed to loosen up. thnx ;D

I think what scrap meant was u have to train til (to quote Bruce Lee) "it hits all by itself". :)

Wesrman, I like that saying but its not really what I meant. Sometimes its a good idea to try another form of movement in another Sport which compliments an action in Boxing of a joint. Its an enjoyable way to think opposites, always remember Ray Leonard up to 15 was into Gymnastics. Memory is an odd thing, but precise in many ways. Doing what many would consider strange things at the Uni at the moment, the results justify the thought. Just to say I was sent a Proffesor in Sport with M S who had trouble walking. Working on opposite Biomechanics for 5 weeks She was able to walk Her Dog 4 miles a Day interesting.

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Wesrman, I like that saying but its not really what I meant. Sometimes its a good idea to try another form of movement in another Sport which compliments an action in Boxing of a joint. Its an enjoyable way to think opposites, always remember Ray Leonard up to 15 was into Gymnastics. Memory is an odd thing, but precise in many ways. Doing what many would consider strange things at the Uni at the moment, the results justify the thought. Just to say I was sent a Proffesor in Sport with M S who had trouble walking. Working on opposite Biomechanics for 5 weeks She was able to walk Her Dog 4 miles a Day interesting.

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Oh ok. Sorry Scrap. ;)

my trainer says just throw every punch as fast as u can even when ur tired i noticed a improvement ;D

Hey Scrap, I'm curious in what do you mean by "opposite biomechanics". Is this something that all athletes should work on?

Chris, its a thing you see in most gyms Shadow Spar Skip Bag Ground work day in Day out. You look at the Kids and you see Boredom and no thought or interest in pretty much everything they do. Its about bringing there awareness levels up and creating a Spark. Doing things that makes the Body and Mind receptive to correct Biomechanical ajustments, Fun things, where the Kid says to you Fuck me give us a week and Ill do that, because I see where that will take me the joy on there faces. We did something last week two Kids one 30 the other 19. Two medicine Balls each both standing on them, pushing the Balls with there feet and racing each other across the Ring. Now at first they were landing on there arses, but realised there Speed response and concentration levels plus Balance and Posture and receptive response was getting better. After 30 mins they were Fucked. Next day I was 20 mins late unusual for me, I entered the Gym and guess what I found them doing with Big smiles on there Faces.

That's interesting Scrap. ;D Give them something fresh to get their mind's into, and when their bodies get used to it they gain a lot more awareness and understanding. 8)

Chris, theres loads of them, you get a Kid who no matter what leans with His Punches how to stop it. Easy get knee pads and put them on then just Shadow Box on His Knees. Shuffling about back and forth side to side throwing shots, He wont lean or He will fall on His Face do it for 3 rds then feel your posture. Ill try and put someone doing it up it gets results. another for the same problem, get a fit ball. Back to the wall pressing against the Ball at shoulder Height you can go about 9 inch either way role up and down. But as soon as you lean or take the pressure of the Ball it Drops, you soon get the hang of it ;D

That's interesting stuff Scrap. I think it speaks a lot of how adaptable our bodies actually are, and why a broad range of exercises and techniques can be beneficial to just about any sport, beyond just muscle confusion to avoid plateau.

Another one with a75mm fit ball neel on top of it and Shadow Box, really sharpens your reflexes up knees about 18ins wide and press in the Ball with your Knees. When you get it try it with your eyes Shut for Feel. Do it in the ring for Safety, as you are sure to fall off ;D plus its great for a weak groin and it works the lower Back and Abs.

Also while on the last one, get near the ropes with your Hand on the top rope. Now start bouncing with your knees on the Ball, then jump and stand on the Ball very explosive. You will fall arse over Tit a few times, but with the Hand on the Ropes its pretty safe, great for explosive Balance and Speed. Another one whose ever tried punching a Fit Ball against a Wall and keeping it up it takes Speed and good Technique and fast Feet ;D.

That's great stuff Scrap, you're too generous with your ideas. ;D

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Another one with a 75mm fit ball neel on top of it and Shadow Box, really sharpens your reflexes up knees about 18ins wide and press in the Ball with your Knees. When you get it try it with your eyes Shut for Feel. Do it in the ring for Safety, as you are sure to fall off ;D plus its great for a weak groin and it works the lower Back and Abs.

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Is the ball 75 mm? I didn't know that they made fit ball's that small.

sorry Im in inches still, it must be a metre one about 3ft ;D

While on the 3ft one a nice thing to try is, lay on the top of it a lift your arms and feet of the floor and stomach on the Ball and Balance while slightly Rocking side to side. Its a good little Corr number, you can spread the Arms and Legs to balance good for the Psossa and upper Abs and does wonders for the Hamstrings ;D. make sure you stretch them after. Theres one thats even better with 4 balls but it takes a lot of Corr strength to even try it :rolleyes: its one of them ;D

You ought to come out with a little book, Fun with Fitness Balls and You. ;D I guess with 4 balls you'd have your arms and legs spread out, with hands and feet on top the ball. All the while keeping your stomach off of the ground. Would there be any movement in this, or do you just have to hold that position like a stretch?

I do it with a few Triathletes I have worked with. You do the or imitate the Breaststroke everything is getting used ;D easy its not and it takes good coardination, elbows and Knees on the Balls