It's official, I checked ESPN.com after fightnews.com reported it and it will be airing on ESPN Classic at 5:00 PM June 20th.
Bravo ESPN!!!!
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It's official, I checked ESPN.com after fightnews.com reported it and it will be airing on ESPN Classic at 5:00 PM June 20th.
Bravo ESPN!!!!
A little late Lyle. Dan Rafael reported this last Friday.
I think it's on SKY Sports 2 for us Brits.
Just thought I'd add that
Well excuse me...I am not an avid reader of Dan Rafael's stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Yes but are you an avid reader of this forum? Because somebody beat you to it with this thread ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell excuse me...I am not an avid reader of Dan Rafael's stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-reminder.html
....ok now I'm going to have to kill all of you ;D
This is a dangerous fight for Klitschko and not because of Chagaev's boxing skills but because Chagaev has hepatitis B.
Highly infectious and incurable blood transmitted disease.
....how many times do we have to go over this??? #1 It won't even be close to the first time a boxer fought with hepititus EVANDER HOLYFIELD, RAY MERCER....ringing any bells???
#2 There is almost no chance of Wlad catching Hepititus from Chagaev during the bout.
Are you THE Nicolay Valuev fan on the forum or what???
From what I read it is one of the most infectious blood borne diseases out there, possibly only number 2 with regards to HIV. That's Hepatitis B not A. I think it's said that Evander has A not so sure about Mercer. But whatever it's not my life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I read Chagaev has B and cannot get any fight sanction in the USA or many parts of the world. And B is the one that's transmitted through blood. That is all.
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Originally Posted by bzkfnYes but are you an avid reader of this forum? Because somebody beat you to it with this thread ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell excuse me...I am not an avid reader of Dan Rafael's stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-reminder.html
And that someone is me HAHAHAHAHAHA
I don't blame anyone who wouldn't want to fight a guy that is even "suspected" of carrying contagious, not sure if it would bother me but i wouldn't shit on anyone who did. Boxing is a dangerous sport as it is without having to worry about all this other shit. Silly to fight to impress fans who if you do get sick won't give a crap about you years from now when you still have some shit. But back on topic i'm trying but it's hard for me to get hyped about this fight. If the haye possibilty was never presented it'd probably be different. If this winds up being another klitchko rout at least it could have been haye instead.
It'll be the only fight in history that's shown live on ESPN Classic and then never ever shown again on that channel.
Good for ESPN for at least trying to keep exposure on the heavies. And finally we are going to see a legitimate champion when the smoke clears. And shame on HBO for passing this fight up in the 1st place. But they are supposedly going to put on Malinaggi and Diaz in August. They could have put that fight on a ppv undercard instead of a main event show.
Lyle, why didn't HBO want to show it?
After all Chagaev has had 25 HEAVYWEIGHT fights. 25!!! And is a champion.
Haye had only 2!!! And is a rubbish cruiserweight.
Don't make sense. ;D
And i thought Americans didn't understand irony and sarcasm....
HBO still wants to do a Haye fight. If they spend money on this fight they wont have money in their budget for a fall Haye fight. Also the Klitscho fights from Europe that air at 5:00 p.m. tend to get low ratings, Chagaev is virtually unknown in the US, and there is a fear that the fight will be unwatchable like klitscho vs Ibragimov.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That being said, I think it is the most import fight in the heavyweight division. We will finally have an Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for the first time since Vitali Klitschko held the Ring Magazine title in 2004.
The Haye fight must have been going out at 5pm too - it was primetime Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutHBO still wants to do a Haye fight. If they spend money on this fight they wont have money in their budget for a fall Haye fight. Also the Klitscho fights from Europe that air at 5:00 p.m. tend to get low ratings, Chagaev is virtually unknown in the US, and there is a fear that the fight will be unwatchable like klitscho vs Ibragimov.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That being said, I think it is the most import fight in the heavyweight division. We will finally have an Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for the first time since Vitali Klitschko held the Ring Magazine title in 2004.
So HBO would rather show Haye-vs-whoever, in the fall, than the most "important" heavyweight fight in the division? That says it all. ;)
David Haye will be exposed before he even gets the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali....David Haye was a Setanta product and soon he'll find himself in their company again.
Not Haye vs whoever, they want Haye vs one of the Klitschkos.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe Haye fight must have been going out at 5pm too - it was primetime Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutHBO still wants to do a Haye fight. If they spend money on this fight they wont have money in their budget for a fall Haye fight. Also the Klitscho fights from Europe that air at 5:00 p.m. tend to get low ratings, Chagaev is virtually unknown in the US, and there is a fear that the fight will be unwatchable like klitscho vs Ibragimov.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
That being said, I think it is the most import fight in the heavyweight division. We will finally have an Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for the first time since Vitali Klitschko held the Ring Magazine title in 2004.
So HBO would rather show Haye-vs-whoever, in the fall, than the most "important" heavyweight fight in the division? That says it all. ;)
I really hope the best for this fight but I think it is very likely that Chagaev will try and counter Wladimir like Sultan did.....MAYBE just maybe Ruslan attacks Wlad but if he does it's do or die, he had better connect and connect hard if he's going to win that way.
I do think Ruslan has the better training for Wladimir as he was already training to fight someone really tall, Wladimir had to unlearn what he had learned specifically to fight David Haye....although I must say Wladimir is a faaaaaaar more dangerous fighter than Valuev
Does Chagaev have any chance of a win ? i have never seen him fight before.
They are more interested in Vitali than Wlad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance UppercutNot Haye vs whoever, they want Haye vs one of the Klitschkos.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThe Haye fight must have been going out at 5pm too - it was primetime Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
So HBO would rather show Haye-vs-whoever, in the fall, than the most "important" heavyweight fight in the division? That says it all. ;)
Well kind of #1 Wlad prepared to fight David Haye and not Ruslan #2 Chagaev is a southpaw #3 Chagaev is undefeated and #4 David Haye really pissed Wladimir off so he might be mentally out of his game (though it's doubtful). I think Wlad is bigger, stronger, and has fought better competition but stranger things have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
And some clips for you to get a glimpse of Ruslan Chagaev so you can form your own opinion on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-c9hm-Q_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fg5z9nb_wM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4vmwM8yYw
;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He's only had one heavyweight fight on that station. They only have about 1 million punters.
Why do you think HBO are interested in Haye but not Wlad?
Because HBO wants to see a slaughter instead of someone who sounds like/looks like Sultan Ibragimov....if Wladimir KO Ruslan Chagaev in an early and spectacular manner then I doubt he'll ever have this issue again, but I understand that HBO didn't want to risk that much money on a product that COULD (doesn't mean it's certain) be boring and drive fans away. I think had it been Wladimir vs Valuev they would have been 100% on board with showing it.
It's not all about Haye, it's Haye talks big, he walks small, and he'd be fun to watch get KO'd...remember how many people enjoyed watching MAB slam Naseem Hamed's head into the turnbuckle??? Well that my friends is what David Haye brings to the division.
If you watch HBO, they have been hyping Haye a little bit for the past few months. (IE he appeared in Max Kellerman's rising stars montage). I don't know why they like him, but they do. I would guess it has to do with his charisma and his exciting fighting style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He's only had one heavyweight fight on that station. They only have about 1 million punters.
Why do you think HBO are interested in Haye but not Wlad?
HBO seems bent on having one Klitscho fight Haye and the other fight Areolla. Watch, if Vitali wins his arbitration against Maskaev(which the results should out soon), he will wind up on HBO fighting either Areolla or Haye
...I think if the Klitschko's were Don King fighters they would be "the greatest thing since sliced bread" but then again they would be less wealthy
I call him the heavyweight version of Amir Khan.;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You know a guy that has potential but talks too much and lots of fight fans wants to see him get the s-hit knocked out of him.
Just as well you did, as I would of had it on 442 no doubt watching a 1974 Lions Tour Match, whilst cursing Lyle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Why are you cursing me???
Because you are saying the fight is on ESPN Classic!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
It maybe in the States, but not here.;)
Do you think they would prefer Haye to KO Wlad? I think they would find that more fun plus would be guaranteed no more boring fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think that is right. Fact.
Haye would be more marketable in the US then Klitscko.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterDo you think they would prefer Haye to KO Wlad? I think they would find that more fun plus would be guaranteed no more boring fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think that is right. Fact.
Yes that would REALLY solve the problems the division has :shakehead:...can you honestly see Haye lasting in the heavyweight division even in a division without either Klitschko????
Keep drinking that David Haye Kool Aide...you'll be doing a spit take soon enough when Haye comes across a LIVE heavyweight body....BTW when is YOUR BOY going to fight and who is he going to fight? It will not be Wlad, it will not be Vitali.....who then for Mr. Haye???? Brian Minto? ;D
Or I can save people from watching them and tell them that he is nothing special at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleWell kind of #1 Wlad prepared to fight David Haye and not Ruslan #2 Chagaev is a southpaw #3 Chagaev is undefeated and #4 David Haye really pissed Wladimir off so he might be mentally out of his game (though it's doubtful). I think Wlad is bigger, stronger, and has fought better competition but stranger things have happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebif
And some clips for you to get a glimpse of Ruslan Chagaev so you can form your own opinion on him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-c9hm-Q_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fg5z9nb_wM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=br4vmwM8yYw
There aren't any. There are two reanimated corpses that some Soviet scientists used to create the Klitschko brothers and a whole other bunch of stiffs. The chinny cruiser Haye is the most exciting fighter in the division, the rest get their fights shown on the Shopping Channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Is he from the same Minto's that make the breath mints?
Even though I have this channel Ild rather watch paint dry than watch Bitchsko bore me to sleep for 12 rounds plodding round the ring.
I think I'll pass and do a bit of gardening instead.
I think Hayemaker's actions hurt Lyle's feelings:LOLATYOU:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Well at least now we while have a ring champ it has been a while.