Klitschko-Chagaev ESPN CLASSIC

[Lance Uppercut]

Lyle, why didn't HBO want to show it?

After all Chagaev has had 25 HEAVYWEIGHT fights. 25!!! And is a champion.

Haye had only 2!!! And is a rubbish cruiserweight.

Don't make sense.

HBO still wants to do a Haye fight. If they spend money on this fight they wont have money in their budget for a fall Haye fight. Also the Klitscho fights from Europe that air at 5:00 p.m. tend to get low ratings, Chagaev is virtually unknown in the US, and there is a fear that the fight will be unwatchable like klitscho vs Ibragimov.

That being said, I think it is the most import fight in the heavyweight division. We will finally have an Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for the first time since Vitali Klitschko held the Ring Magazine title in 2004.

[Fenster]

Lyle, why didn't HBO want to show it?

After all Chagaev has had 25 HEAVYWEIGHT fights. 25!!! And is a champion.

Haye had only 2!!! And is a rubbish cruiserweight.

Don't make sense.

HBO still wants to do a Haye fight. If they spend money on this fight they wont have money in their budget for a fall Haye fight. Also the Klitscho fights from Europe that air at 5:00 p.m. tend to get low ratings, Chagaev is virtually unknown in the US, and there is a fear that the fight will be unwatchable like klitscho vs Ibragimov.

That being said, I think it is the most import fight in the heavyweight division. We will finally have an Undisputed Heavyweight Champion for the first time since Vitali Klitschko held the Ring Magazine title in 2004.

The Haye fight must have been going out at 5pm too - it was primetime Germany.

So HBO would rather show Haye-vs-whoever, in the fall, than the most "important" heavyweight fight in the division? That says it all.

[El Kabong]

David Haye will be exposed before he even gets the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali....David Haye was a Setanta product and soon he'll find himself in their company again.

[Fenster]

David Haye will be exposed before he even gets the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali....David Haye was a Setanta product and soon he'll find himself in their company again.

He's only had one heavyweight fight on that station. They only have about 1 million punters.

Why do you think HBO are interested in Haye but not Wlad?

[El Kabong]

Because HBO wants to see a slaughter instead of someone who sounds like/looks like Sultan Ibragimov....if Wladimir KO Ruslan Chagaev in an early and spectacular manner then I doubt he'll ever have this issue again, but I understand that HBO didn't want to risk that much money on a product that COULD (doesn't mean it's certain) be boring and drive fans away. I think had it been Wladimir vs Valuev they would have been 100% on board with showing it.

It's not all about Haye, it's Haye talks big, he walks small, and he'd be fun to watch get KO'd...remember how many people enjoyed watching MAB slam Naseem Hamed's head into the turnbuckle Well that my friends is what David Haye brings to the division.

[generalbulldog]

It's not all about Haye, it's Haye talks big, he walks small, and he'd be fun to watch get KO'd

I call him the heavyweight version of Amir Khan.
You know a guy that has potential but talks too much and lots of fight fans wants to see him get the s-hit knocked out of him.

[Fenster]

Because HBO wants to see a slaughter instead of someone who sounds like/looks like Sultan Ibragimov....if Wladimir KO Ruslan Chagaev in an early and spectacular manner then I doubt he'll ever have this issue again, but I understand that HBO didn't want to risk that much money on a product that COULD (doesn't mean it's certain) be boring and drive fans away. I think had it been Wladimir vs Valuev they would have been 100% on board with showing it.

It's not all about Haye, it's Haye talks big, he walks small, and he'd be fun to watch get KO'd...remember how many people enjoyed watching MAB slam Naseem Hamed's head into the turnbuckle Well that my friends is what David Haye brings to the division.

Do you think they would prefer Haye to KO Wlad? I think they would find that more fun plus would be guaranteed no more boring fights.

I think that is right. Fact.

[Lance Uppercut]

Because HBO wants to see a slaughter instead of someone who sounds like/looks like Sultan Ibragimov....if Wladimir KO Ruslan Chagaev in an early and spectacular manner then I doubt he'll ever have this issue again, but I understand that HBO didn't want to risk that much money on a product that COULD (doesn't mean it's certain) be boring and drive fans away. I think had it been Wladimir vs Valuev they would have been 100% on board with showing it.

It's not all about Haye, it's Haye talks big, he walks small, and he'd be fun to watch get KO'd...remember how many people enjoyed watching MAB slam Naseem Hamed's head into the turnbuckle Well that my friends is what David Haye brings to the division.

Do you think they would prefer Haye to KO Wlad? I think they would find that more fun plus would be guaranteed no more boring fights.

I think that is right. Fact.

Haye would be more marketable in the US then Klitscko.

[El Kabong]

Yes that would REALLY solve the problems the division has ...can you honestly see Haye lasting in the heavyweight division even in a division without either Klitschko?

Keep drinking that David Haye Kool Aide...you'll be doing a spit take soon enough when Haye comes across a LIVE heavyweight body....BTW when is YOUR BOY going to fight and who is he going to fight? It will not be Wlad, it will not be Vitali.....who then for Mr. Haye? Brian Minto?

[Lance Uppercut]

David Haye will be exposed before he even gets the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali....David Haye was a Setanta product and soon he'll find himself in their company again.

He's only had one heavyweight fight on that station. They only have about 1 million punters.

Why do you think HBO are interested in Haye but not Wlad?

If you watch HBO, they have been hyping Haye a little bit for the past few months. (IE he appeared in Max Kellerman's rising stars montage). I don't know why they like him, but they do. I would guess it has to do with his charisma and his exciting fighting style.

HBO seems bent on having one Klitscho fight Haye and the other fight Areolla. Watch, if Vitali wins his arbitration against Maskaev(which the results should out soon), he will wind up on HBO fighting either Areolla or Haye

[El Kabong]

...I think if the Klitschko's were Don King fighters they would be "the greatest thing since sliced bread" but then again they would be less wealthy

[leftylee]

David Haye will be exposed before he even gets the chance to fight Wlad or Vitali....David Haye was a Setanta product and soon he'll find himself in their company again.

I think Hayemaker's actions hurt Lyle's feelings

[Mr140]

Well at least now we while have a ring champ it has been a while.

[El Kabong]

I think Hayemaker's actions hurt Lyle's feelings

Just let me know when he fights someone worth a damn....I suppose it'll be fall before he gets over his hang nail. David Haye couldn't beat the guys Audley Harrison fought, what makes you think he could hang with Wladimir? David Haye is such a fucking chump he hurt himself SHADDOW BOXING, fucking shaddow boxing

And Kirkland David Haye has proven nothing at heavyweight and YES there are plenty of people out there that can and will whip David Haye's ass providing David is able to get that sand out of his vagina and climb back in a boxing ring.

[Mr140]

Why are people not happy about the fight its for the ring belt.